Right?I connected the negative of my heating circuit (two pads) to H- and the positive to the battery main positive terminal.
Right?I connected the negative of my heating circuit (two pads) to H- and the positive to the battery main positive terminal.
I'm not very good at circuitry. You can draw on the diagram the correct position in your opinion. What is the nominal value of the diode you recommend.Yes. I only would suggest a diode antiparallel to the relay in case of a conventional (non-solid state) relay, to prevent any surges frying the FETs of the heater port due to inductance of the relay coil
I'm not sure, but if I remember correctly, the heater port can provide 8A, so unless you're really need a whopping 150 watt of heating power you can skip the relay all together.
Good to know, I asked the Alibaba store the same question, but they never got back to me.When I asked the Alibaba store, they confirmed the link I gave for the Aliexpress store was correct. Since the Alibaba store offered to build exactly what I wanted if I ordered enough, and had the data sheets, I think they are correct.
I'm not very good at circuitry. You can draw on the diagram the correct position in your opinion. What is the nominal value of the diode you recommend.
I agree with you. It's not logical. Switching always goes by "-", especially since in this case the current of 8 amps will go through a thin balancing wire. But the fact is that I sent the seller a drawing. And the seller said that this is correct. When I assemble the battery I will check both options. I think the seller is wrong.They are wrong. I think it's a translation / communication issue. The H is a switched -.
There is no + in the BMS available, thus it never can provide a switched +. (Except for the balance lead, but thats not suitable to provide any current).
In doubt you can always verify with a multimeter (Which I would do anyway)
All I can say is that I have two 15W pads wired to the H- on one side and the main battery positive terminal on the other side (through a fuse and a LED switch outside the battery box) and it works.I agree with you. It's not logical. Switching always goes by "-", especially since in this case the current of 8 amps will go through a thin balancing wire. But the fact is that I sent the seller a drawing. And the seller said that this is correct. When I assemble the battery I will check both options. I think the seller is wrong.
No unfortunately. It also doesn't seem to have an external temperature sensor, so I'm not sure if it even has low charge temp protection
Jiabaida also has a another BMS. I don't have experience with that one, but that also might be an option. With my next order (after CNY) I'll plan on ordering one.
I've received an image of the 150A version, but there is also a 200A version available ( AP21S001 )
It's a 6 to 21S BMS so works with both 24 and 48V systems, and it is supposed to have BT as well.
I've been quoted by Jiabaida $82 for that 200A unit. (BT dongle is optional and around 5 USD)
It seems a nice option for both 8S and 16S configurations.
These days there finally start to appear more fet-based BMSses for >100A currents. These Jiabaida, but also eg the JK ones.
JK is supposed to come with a 200A one which works with 4S as well, so i'm curiuos to see what the options and experiences are by the end of the year. Untill now it was, on some exceptions, 100-150A max, or go for contactor based ones.
But the last moths, things started to move.
(Which I like, since I prefer JBD so far, or JK but I haven't tested those). The Daly ones... Never felt good about those since there are quite a lot of ppl having some random/strange issues so I've never been tempted to get those.
The dumb Daly ones were great, but the smart one's I'm not to sure about.
The 200amp one in picture 3 is by far the better bms as long as your use is only 12v. That bms can't be series connected. It may be overkill for your application but that's OK. You can get it with or without the heater function. The massive heat sink on the back is also a big bonus. You can drill and tap the 4 corners of it and use a 3/4 inch L bracket and have a nice clean way to mount it. All the bms's I sell already come drilled and tappedHi all,
I’m investigating the JBD as BMS for my future 4S EVE304Ah battery pack. I see 3 versions that seem to be almost the same but look different. 120A discharge will be already overkill for me. Intended use is as service battery on a small vessel.
versions found with pictures included below in the same order:
• sp04S028
• sp04S020
• sp04s034
The latter is mainly discussed in this thread (heater function). It has also has a 200A version. From looks, I prefer this one, as it has terminals that can be bolted (no soldering required, less chance of short circuit due vibrations). But … what are the other differentiators?
BTW: I tried to view the companies website. Only the Chinese version loaded, the English version gave a server error.
Kind regards,
Perry
Perry,Hi all,
I’m investigating the JBD as BMS for my future 4S EVE304Ah battery pack. I see 3 versions that seem to be almost the same but look different. 120A discharge will be already overkill for me. Intended use is as service battery on a small vessel.
versions found with pictures included below in the same order:
• sp04S028
• sp04S020
• sp04s034
The latter is mainly discussed in this thread (heater function). It has also has a 200A version. From looks, I prefer this one, as it has terminals that can be bolted (no soldering required, less chance of short circuit due vibrations). But … what are the other differentiators?
BTW: I tried to view the companies website. Only the Chinese version loaded, the English version gave a server error.
Kind regards,
Perry
I own all three. If you're only going with a 12v system, you probably want the 200 amp model. Anything else, I recommend the 150 amp model. A BMS that is substantially over rated is not a bad thing. Even if you won't be drawing more than 100 amps, the 150 or 200 amp rated BMS is a good choice.Hi all,
I’m investigating the JBD as BMS for my future 4S EVE304Ah battery pack. I see 3 versions that seem to be almost the same but look different. 120A discharge will be already overkill for me. Intended use is as service battery on a small vessel.
versions found with pictures included below in the same order:
• sp04S028
• sp04S020
• sp04s034
The latter is mainly discussed in this thread (heater function). It has also has a 200A version. From looks, I prefer this one, as it has terminals that can be bolted (no soldering required, less chance of short circuit due vibrations). But … what are the other differentiators?
BTW: I tried to view the companies website. Only the Chinese version loaded, the English version gave a server error.
Kind regards,
Perry
Looks supernice!I've made some mounts for the BMS.
Just printed 4 of those. There is approx 5mm space below the BMS to allow for ventilation and the nut on the busbars to fit properly.
JBD JiaBaida 4S 200A BMS mount by djsmiley
Mount for the JiaBiada 4S 200A LiFePO4 BMSwww.thingiverse.com
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I just drill and tap the heat sink with a m3 and use 3/4 in L brackets. I don't have the L bracket on this one but you get the idea.Looks supernice!
What would be the alternative method to mount it to the DYI battery box? I do not see any mounting points on the body of the BMS. Mount it on fixed terminals with holes on connection bars (B- and C- connection)?