The problem with declaring who won or lost a war is that people in the west now define a victory as only when your vanquished enemy is your best buddy, a completely functioning democracy, and its people have a much better way of life than they did before.It was still Muslims winning against a superpower. This is why it's important to not get bogged down in semantics of who has what. The Arabs successfully expelled the 2nd strongest superpower from their land and bled them of treasure.
We just packed up and left Afghanistan. The Muslims now have successfully expelled the greatest superpower from their land.
Hard to say. Our southern border has been open for 3 years.
I dunno. It's a difficult point to convey but the Arab world has a lot to sort out. The United States gets in the way and takes whichever side will benefit us the most.
They have defeated the worlds two superpowers and expelled us so they can now turn their full hatred and resources towards Israel and then onto their own governments.
Obviously this is nearly impossible to achieve so we never win wars any more. The fact is Iraq for example was considered the most successful campaign in the history of modern mechanized warfare by military historians.
IMO the occupation afterward was tanked on purpose so we could use the country for a shooting gallery to kill any jihadists that wanted to kill Americans. 10% of the insurgents we killed were foreign born.
We kicked Saddams ass so fast that the whole world was demanding we leave the country and give the Iraqis their sovereignty.
Then the insurgency starts and bombs are going off every day and Bush says we are only staying for the safety of the Iraqi people and only as long as they want us.
So you can think we lost the war all you like but dont think the world likes winners anyhow.
Look at the WMD equation. We invaded a country for our own benefit (preserving petrodollar hegemony) blamed it on the lies of a not too brilliant president who went home and retired to his ranch in Texas. Pretended that it was the work of one guy and every other American was a victim too. Ha.
And got away with it.
They know what theyre doing.