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New EG4 3kW Off Grid All-In-One Inverter - Anyone with experience??

Watched Will's Video - Come on at this price point and being EG4 had to look eh ! 3000W/48V though, really ? Seriously if you are doing 48V, then 3000W (120V/25A gross) is kind of light & is that really economical ? some folks do have to think about the $$$ budget thing.

One really peculiar thing in Will's Video... THE APP ! Create an account on their website etc etc...
- WHY do they need/want your address etc ? ~WARNING FLAGS FLYING ~
- does this require an Active Internet Connection to use the App to view the AIO ?
- if Web Access must be available then WHAT are they capturing & logging ? Where s it stored and can it be disabled ??
- what if there is no Internet Access ?
 
Muir Industries said:
Alright, so in your opinion does it make sense to buy 2-3 of the refurbished units for $1,100 each vs pre-ordering the LL’s for $1,699?

I’m not at all worried about programming an inverter or replacing parts. I just don’t want to end up with a brick, or spending the $599 difference a month later because XYZ is wrong if you know what I mean.

I don’t care about scratches and dents, but I do want a battery I can rely on in the unlikely event that I need to.
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I'd personally buy one. They are all bench tested for operations etc and they all work. Many of them are actually just returns due to shipping damage or somehow they got shipped the wrong item and we traded them. I would have 0 hesitation in buying one of those.
 
Steve_S said:
One really peculiar thing in Will's Video... THE APP ! Create an account on their website etc etc...
- WHY do they need/want your address etc ? ~WARNING FLAGS FLYING ~
- does this require an Active Internet Connection to use the App to view the AIO ?
- if Web Access must be available then WHAT are they capturing & logging ? Where s it stored and can it be disabled ??
- what if there is no Internet Access ?
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First post! I am so enjoying this community and appreciate all the great info.
I'm also wondering about the wifi access and local monitoring @RichardfromEG4. Thinking about one of these for an off grid / no internet location, but would be very convenient to monitor on my iPhone as this will be in a back closet. Can these be monitored locally without an internet connection? If not, would a bluetooth capable shunt be my best option?
 
travisty10 said:
First post! I am so enjoying this community and appreciate all the great info.
I'm also wondering about the wifi access and local monitoring @RichardfromEG4. Thinking about one of these for an off grid / no internet location, but would be very convenient to monitor on my iPhone as this will be in a back closet. Can these be monitored locally without an internet connection? If not, would a bluetooth capable shunt be my best option?
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At this time I'm not aware of any local monitoring options. It's not something I am happy about but working with the manufacturers that wasn't implemented (yet). A shunt is a pretty easy and inexpensive way to monitor through bluetooth until we can get that technology developed.
 
RichardfromEG4 said:
At this time I'm not aware of any local monitoring options. It's not something I am happy about but working with the manufacturers that wasn't implemented (yet). A shunt is a pretty easy and inexpensive way to monitor through bluetooth until we can get that technology developed.
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Would it not work to have a simplistic offline wifi setup to monitor locally? IE could you not just set up a super low power wifi router/ap and connect to it with your iPhone when you wanted to monitor the setup? Or does this device actually need to see out to the internet?
Generally most halfway decent routers will utilize NAT loopback to eliminate the devices going out to a server to obtain info available locally. But that's predicated on the idea that this device supports such a feature as well. Just an idea for someone who's truly offgrid.

That said, get Starlink ;) It works brilliantly.
 
Well, I don't want to be the firsts to buy that. I would rather go with one that already tested. I just ordered the Growatt 3K -ES model with EG4 battry when it reopened for pre-order yesterday -the day they rolled out the EG4 Inverter. Will have to wait a month to get my inverter?
 
Muir Industries said:
Would it not work to have a simplistic offline wifi setup to monitor locally? IE could you not just set up a super low power wifi router/ap and connect to it with your iPhone when you wanted to monitor the setup? Or does this device actually need to see out to the internet?
Generally most halfway decent routers will utilize NAT loopback to eliminate the devices going out to a server to obtain info available locally. But that's predicated on the idea that this device supports such a feature as well. Just an idea for someone who's truly offgrid.

That said, get Starlink ;) It works brilliantly.
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Probably - I'll verify if it needs external server access to operate properly, or if you can use a local wireless network.
 
RichardfromEG4 said:
Probably - I'll verify if it needs external server access to operate properly, or if you can use a local wireless network.
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@RichardfromEG4 Or better yet publish the modub registers like Sol-Ark/DEYE did and then the user can poll the data directly and then do as they wish (graph via grafana or leverage HA, etc). Thanks
 
Will Prowse said:
Yeah, I would still stick with the 6548's or 6048. They have a good track record from many who have used them 24/7 for years now.
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Is there a 6548 that is grid interactive too? I see a LVX6048 but not a 6548 one...
 
solardad said:
@RichardfromEG4 Or better yet publish the modub registers like Sol-Ark/DEYE did and then the user can poll the data directly and then do as they wish (graph via grafana or leverage HA, etc). Thanks
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Yes, this is something we've thought about doing, the problem (currently) is that the documentation is absolutely abysmal and we would need to clean it up first. I'll see what we can do.
 
RichardfromEG4 said:
One thing I really thinks sets us apart is customer service. Most brands don’t have a phone support or anything, let along a guy who hangs out in the forums for fun. Just saying. And we have some big things coming. Plus - the manual is absolutely great when compared to 99% of what you see nowadays and this unit is an absolute beast for the price and support you get.

Regarding the refurb stuff - the batteries are a steal. Signature Solar frequently has employees pick them up for a good price because the failure rate is so incredibly low that they know they won’t have to deal with a warranty regardless.

I’m always here so don’t hesitate to @ me for anything.
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This unit looks perfect for my needs. I have a 8 breaker type 1 subpanel in my closet and plenty of clearance around it. I want to disconnect the hot wires feeding it, and then feed this unit into it, with one of your EG4 48V 100AH batteries. I like that there are minimal connections to make, less fire hazard, and that it feeds 110V not 240v. My main questions are, how noisy is it? and how to hook it to my breaker box, assuming this type breaker box will work. thanks Tom
 
tomy2 said:
This unit looks perfect for my needs. I have a 8 breaker type 1 subpanel in my closet and plenty of clearance around it. I want to disconnect the hot wires feeding it, and then feed this unit into it, with one of your EG4 48V 100AH batteries. I like that there are minimal connections to make, less fire hazard, and that it feeds 110V not 240v. My main questions are, how noisy is it? and how to hook it to my breaker box, assuming this type breaker box will work. thanks Tom
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It's about the same volume as any other similar sized inverter. I would say not louder or quieter than what you'd expect. Pretty much sounds like a computer most of the time.
 
So, @RichardfromEG4, since y'all have released two new inverters over the last month, both being 120V output varieties, is there a split phase (120/240V) version in the works?
 
RichardfromEG4 said:
:sneaky:
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hey richard, i bought an EG4 3k inverter, the manual is confusing. it says that the grid power in requires an 60 amp; breaker and the power out wants a 30 amp breaker. and then it goes on to say thaty a 10 guage wire should be ok. that makes no sense, 10 gauge is not sufficient for 30 or 60 amps. can you clarify this situation
 
tomy2 said:
hey richard, i bought an EG4 3k inverter, the manual is confusing. it says that the grid power in requires an 60 amp; breaker and the power out wants a 30 amp breaker. and then it goes on to say thaty a 10 guage wire should be ok. that makes no sense, 10 gauge is not sufficient for 30 or 60 amps. can you clarify this situation
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10awg is what you use for 30A circuits
 
tomy2 said:
normally I would agree, but I'm going to run five branch circuits off it. and I really don't understand why you would need a sixty amp breaker feeding a 3k inverter.
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It can pull 45A continuous through the AC input apparently so you need a 60A breaker
 
tomy2 said:
hey richard, i bought an EG4 3k inverter, the manual is confusing. it says that the grid power in requires an 60 amp; breaker and the power out wants a 30 amp breaker. and then it goes on to say thaty a 10 guage wire should be ok. that makes no sense, 10 gauge is not sufficient for 30 or 60 amps. can you clarify this situation
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10awg= 30a bro
 
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