Rollann Cerry
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When I bought batteries in Alibaba, I found that some sellers told me that they were selling solid-state batteries, which was true or not.
Who knows about solid-state batteries？
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Seems to be a popular phrase to add onto chinese battery ads.
400bird
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The only thing I know about solid state batteries is that right now they are just vaporware.
Solid state is a phrase that means no moving parts.
And to the newbie, it sounds like solid electrolyte... whoch is a new tech that has not matured yet...
And to the newbie, it sounds like solid electrolyte... whoch is a new tech that has not matured yet...
cs1234
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With how fast Toyota seems to be moving on things, my guess would be they plan on grabbing it from some asteroids after we get mining operations going.
Super capacitor 48V server rack "battery"
Looks really interesting. Who is going to call and find out how much it costs? :LOL: https://wrightenergystorage.com/summit/
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Funny coincidence.
I'm watching the TV show "snake oil" , right now.
I'm watching the TV show "snake oil" , right now.
Rollann Cerry
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Yes, electrolyte, they told me, it's replacing liquid electrolytes with solid electrolytes, which can reduce the risk of fire and explosion by 90%
Rollann Cerry
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I don't know, But I won't try “solid-state batteries”, The technology is immature and not many people are using it.
With the current technology available to us mere mortals, "Solid State" may refer to just the BMS. A LiFePO4 battery or cell doesn't follow the typical definition of "Solid State". Or, it could be that the Alibaba/Aliexpress seller wanted to put as many key words into the description as possible, whether they understood the key word or not.
ImAnIdiotPleaseBePatient
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I think a few companies making solar generators are starting to sell them with solid-state batteries, but from what I can tell, the specs on the batteries are worse than lithium iron phosphate right now.
Rollann Cerry
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During this time, I have looked up a lot of information. The positive electrode material of the solid-state battery is also lithium iron phosphate, but the liquid electrolyte is replaced with a solid electrolyte.
400bird
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Those companies are just lying to the consumer and using solid state as a marketing term.
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Maybe. Here is a link to one. I have no idea if they are real. https://yoshinopower.com/
Solarcabin Channel
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Not much except the hype in some advertising.
I was offered a semi solid state power station to review that claimed really good specs and then they pulled the deal.
Don't know why but they looked good on paper!
I was offered a semi solid state power station to review that claimed really good specs and then they pulled the deal.
Don't know why but they looked good on paper!
In fact, What's mature now are semi-solid batteries. ceramic solid electrolyte. It can replace the liquid electrolyte of traditional lithium-ion batteries. Solid electrolyte can inhibit lithium dendrites, not burn, not explode, no electrolyte leakage, will not occur at high temperature side reactions. Large current operation will not cause lithium dendrites to Pierce the diaphragm and lead to short circuit, will not occur at high temperature side reactions, will not cause combustion due to gas generation. But there is still a 10% liquid electrolyte, because the problem is solid and solid can not be 100% contact.
pollenface
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Toyota and Honda want to bring them to EV's in 2028 or thereabouts, but the tech has not been "made to work" yet which could explain why not many people are using it
Been discussed on the forum since 2019 :
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Still waiting……
Search results for query: Solid state battery
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Still waiting……
Dagoth Ur Does Solar
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Will did a video on a Chinese "solid state" battery, turned out to be a semi-solid state (Li-Po chemistry, apparently).
It also violently combusted.
As best I can tell, most of these solid state batteries are more like lab experiments, and it seems like they might have very high degradation rate, so I can't see them being the top choice for residential solar if that's the case.
It also violently combusted.
As best I can tell, most of these solid state batteries are more like lab experiments, and it seems like they might have very high degradation rate, so I can't see them being the top choice for residential solar if that's the case.
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