Will the "Beginner Friendly All-in-One Solar Power System" trickle charge a Tesla? Help!

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I don’t see why not. I’m partial to hardwired stuff, but I’m an electrician…

Thank you for the response. My only concern was it being underpowered. I'm with you on the hardwired stuff, it's just I'm in no way an electrician and taking my first step here.

In about a week I'll be purchasing the stuff and will post it here, if it helps anyone.
 

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Any 24V battery will work
Heck, four 6V golf cart batteries would work.
If you want the bank to charge at night, you need the capacity to support the kWhs
 

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Any 24V battery will work
Heck, four 6V golf cart batteries would work.
If you want the bank to charge at night, you need the capacity to support the kWhs

At the end of this, I'll be buying you a few coffees for your responses. It is extremely helpful.

So here is what I will be ordering. Any help would be greatly appreciated to ensure I am not missing anything. Again, I am a complete noob.
My plan is to post here (photos and language) of my process for those who are inept. And maybe a video.

My list:

Battery

24V 100Ah LiFePO4 lithium battery with voltage display


Inverter

HYBRID LV2424 – 24V 2.4kW, 120V Output, 2kW Solar Input 80A Mppt


Solar Panels
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What other cords may I need to connect the solar panels together (in parallel?) and then to the Inverter?

CORDS/WIRES

Solar Panel Array to MPP MC4 Extension Wires

12 gauge AC Extension Cable for AC Input/Output
 

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Ok, your 2400W inverter needs cable to support full load, which is 3000W, at 24V, the battery needs to supply 125A, so the cables need to handle 125A you need to use the correct type and size fuse so, if lithium, you need a fuse rated for 20,000A arc fault current. A class T fuse. If lead acid, you can use a mega fuse. I would use a fuse sized 25% over rating to protect the wiring. The wires to the inverter need to be #2 or larger depending on length.
 

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Ok, your 2400W inverter needs cable to support full load, which is 3000W, at 24V, the battery needs to supply 125A, so the cables need to handle 125A you need to use the correct type and size fuse so, if lithium, you need a fuse rated for 20,000A arc fault current. A class T fuse. If lead acid, you can use a mega fuse. I would use a fuse sized 25% over rating to protect the wiring. The wires to the inverter need to be #2 or larger depending on length.

Ok, so… unsure what some of that means.
Could you link to parts?
 

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At the top of the page, click on solar blueprints, and there are links to wire and fuse sources.
 

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concern was it being underpowered
Well yes it’s going to a tad slower and 100Ah won’t go far
My list:

Battery
50Ah usable at Walmart is $100 for lead acid marine deep cycle. 150Ah $300, 300Ah $600
If a shorter-term spend is acceptable you’ll get more out of it. 200W of panels is slightly optimistically 1-1.5 lead acid batteries recharging power - or about 1/2-3/4 of a 100Ah LiFePo - per day.
 

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Well, the time is near.

I'll be receiving (see photos) my MPP Solar 24v Inverter this week.

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And the next process is to get the solar panels and battery. If anyone is willing to help out, I'd appreciate it.

Questions:
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Will (see photos) Used Trina 240w Polycrystalline solar panels work on my inverter? I am going to begin with two panels (budget). Also, what kind of connections (cords) will I need to purchase to run from the solar to the inverter?
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SST-240-60PBrand : Trina Solar Wattage
240 Watts Voltage : 37.2V ( open current )Dimensions : 64.95” x 39.05” x 1.57”



2. As a beginner and because of budget, will 2 x 12v lead batteries work? Also, what wiring would I need to attach the batteries to the inverter?
 

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Would this work on the gauge wire between the inverter and the batteries (2 - 12v 100ah)?
 

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If you just need a disconnect they work sometimes.
I wouldn't use them though.
Far better choices exist
Well, I'm not exactely sure what I need, but looking to protect the system. What would you suggest I use instead?
 

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Help?!

Video:

I've created a short video with my issue. How do I set up the solar panels correctly so the solar inverter is it receives an input of 120 (or less)?
OR
Is it something else I've set-up in correctly?

System: PIP 2724LV-MR 24V 2.7kW Inverter
Batteries: 2 x Weize 12V Deep Cycle 100ah lead (AGM) batteries
Solar Panels: 2 x 240w panels (37.2 open circuit voltage) (30.4 volage at Pmax) (Max system
 

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Help?!

Video:

I've created a short video with my issue. How do I set up the solar panels correctly so the solar inverter is it receives an input of 120 (or less)?
OR
Is it something else I've set-up in correctly?

System: PIP 2724LV-MR 24V 2.7kW Inverter
Batteries: 2 x Weize 12V Deep Cycle 100ah lead (AGM) batteries
Solar Panels: 2 x 240w panels (37.2 open circuit voltage) (30.4 volage at Pmax) (Max system
The inverter needs your panels to be wired in series to have enough voltage to charge.
 

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The inverter needs your panels to be wired in series to have enough voltage to charge.
Thanks for the reply!

I tried it initially in series but exceeded the amperage of 60v for the inverter (since each panel is 30amp).

Update: the issue seems to be me not understanding basic terms. Ugh! When I click the 'select' button (on the video) twice, it shows the "PV" input. PV in solar panels means 'photovoltaic'. I have two Monocrystalline solar panels for "PV" input.
The first number is "AC"solar panels are those that come with a microinverter already attached to each panel.
 
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The "AC" on the display stands for when its plugged in to mains power (wall power). Because you haven't got the SCC plugged in, it will always show as zero.

I'm really surprised by your All-In-One that it doesn't have a higher solar input. I'm in the UK, I bought an Iconica AIO a month ago. It's rated at 1000Watts AC, but can accept up to 1000W of solar, or 102V open circuit and up to 80V MPPT voltage. (I have 2 x 340W panels)

I noticed in your video that you were charging at 4Amps with 144Watts coming in through your panels. I know the panels were a great deal, but maybe sell them on and get smaller powered panels UPTO the max open circuit voltage so you can wire them in series (gets more amps), or get a new AIO with a higher open circuit to support your panels.
 

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The "AC" on the display stands for when its plugged in to mains power (wall power). Because you haven't got the SCC plugged in, it will always show as zero.

I'm really surprised by your All-In-One that it doesn't have a higher solar input. I'm in the UK, I bought an Iconica AIO a month ago. It's rated at 1000Watts AC, but can accept up to 1000W of solar, or 102V open circuit and up to 80V MPPT voltage. (I have 2 x 340W panels)

I noticed in your video that you were charging at 4Amps with 144Watts coming in through your panels. I know the panels were a great deal, but maybe sell them on and get smaller powered panels UPTO the max open circuit voltage so you can wire them in series (gets more amps), or get a new AIO with a higher open circuit to support your panels.

Thank you! The "AC" was for wall power (grid). Phew!

This is my entry into solar, so I wanted a beginner friendly kit that was intuitive. Also, all of this cost me about $800 total. While 60v is the downfall, it was a small compromise for the price. I can always sell off these, in the future, panels and get smaller powered panels as you suggested. This might be the best solution.
 

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Thank you! The "AC" was for wall power (grid). Phew!

This is my entry into solar, so I wanted a beginner friendly kit that was intuitive. Also, all of this cost me about $800 total. While 60v is the downfall, it was a small compromise for the price. I can always sell off these, in the future, panels and get smaller powered panels as you suggested. This might be the best solution.
I do not believe the mpp has a 60V limit… what model is it?
 
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