Luxpower LXP6K vs EG4 6000XP

[yabert]

Currency exchange, your Canadian dollar is cold and shriveled up compared to our warm American dollar LOL

You can do it in any currency, it don't change the fact that some Canadian supplier ask 33% more for the same product.
Example in Chinese currency (after all, it's the original currency for this product): 10 000 Yuan if buy from the US supplier and 15 000 Yuan from Canadian supplier

 

[timselectric]

Every time a product moves through another set of hands. The cost increases. (Those hands need to get paid)

 

[yabert]

Every time a product moves through another set of hands. The cost increases. (Those hands need to get paid)

Yeah, but those hands seem really cash hangry.
They probably have multi million dollar mortgage to pay and prefer to give their cash to banks instead of manage their expenses correctly

Seriously, the 33% higher price for the EG4 6000XP in Canada is BS, but that brings us back to the excellent value of the LXP6K.
Still, I don't know if this Luxpower unit is exactly the same than the EG4 unit.

 

[timselectric]

Functionally, they should be the same.

 

[kennyb]

I was able to purchase 2x lux 12k's last week for the US equivalent price was $4200 ea. Stocked in a Canada, should arrive later this week.

I just emailed lux and they gave me contact information of a distributor. Big savings over all the online resellers.

Perhaps try that approach.

 

[yabert]

Perhaps try that approach.

Clearly!
Thanks to shared your experiment.

 

[yabert]

I finally put my hand on a Luxpower spec sheet who indicate that unit effectively weight 53 lbs like the EG4.
So the Luxpower LXP6K (or SNA-US 6000) is the same as EG4 6000XP.
I'm waiting for a quote from a canadian supplier. I expect to pay around 2000CAD$ who is equivalent at 1399US$ like the EG4 price.
Fingers crossed.

 

[yabert]

I got a quote from a canadian solar installer for the Luxpower 6kW who give a really good view of the real value of this product.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:

Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$

Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%

Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.

 

[noobie]

I was able to purchase 2x lux 12k's last week for the US equivalent price was $4200 ea. Stocked in a Canada, should arrive later this week.

I just emailed lux and they gave me contact information of a distributor. Big savings over all the online resellers.

Perhaps try that approach.

I think you're talking about this unit?

Luxpower LXP-LB-US 12k Hybrid Inverter | All-In-One Solar Inverter | 18000W PV Input | 12000W Output | 48V 120/240V Split Phase | LXP-LB-US 12k [UL & CSA Approved]

Introducing the LXP-LB-US 12k All-In-One Hybrid Inverter - the ultimate power solution for any solar project! This innovative hybrid inverter, with the model number LXP-LB-US 12k, combines the features of a grid-tied and off-grid system into one, eliminating the need for charge controllers or...

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I came across this one as well, and thought it seems identical to the "EG4 18kPV".

Not to muddy this thread, but it's I think the same concept. Same inverter, but with the original Lux label on it.
The CAD price seems decent(a bit of a premium but not much) compared to CC's USD>CAD conversion, and you don't have to deal with importing stuff.
But it still sounds like a lot more than what you found it for.

 

[noobie]

I got a quote from a canadian solar installer for the Luxpower 6kW who give a really good view of the real value of this product.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:

Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$

Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%

Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.

Yes that's quite the difference in price. Possibly sacrificing support/warranty(speculating), and I guess you deal with Lux directly(can't say what that could be like)
In the case of the Lux LXP-LB-US 12k, it is UL listed and CSA approved. Are the units that come directly from these distributers also carrying these approvals?

I do understand these types of markups though. Usually on the installer side for HVAC, there is a huge markup on components. Like near 100%, or even more. The overhead of running a business in Canada is extremely high.
However, for DIY types, if we can get the components at the wholesale cost and install it ourselves, then why not!

 

[Quattrohead]

I got a quote from a canadian solar installer for the Luxpower 6kW who give a really good view of the real value of this product.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:

Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$

Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%

Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.

You should start an import business then cuz obviously it's dead easy to make a boatload of money out of it. Try it and let us know how it goes for you.

 

[yabert]

In the case of the Lux LXP-LB-US 12k, it is UL listed and CSA approved. Are the units that come directly from these distributers also carrying these approvals?

yes.

 

[yabert]

You should start an import business then cuz obviously it's dead easy to make a boatload of money out of it.

Import business only, no, but I thought about start to install solar/battery stuffs.
The thing is solar isn't really popular here with hydropower cost equivalent of 0.05-0.07$US / kWh.
To add, HydroQuebec (main/only supplier) don't buy solar electricity from his customers ?

 

[Detritalgeo]

I got a quote from a canadian solar installer for the Luxpower 6kW who give a really good view of the real value of this product.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:

Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$

Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%

Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.

I will see if I can do the same thing. Thanks.

 

[andy546]

I have been looking at the lux inverters recently and depending on what you are looking for I would think the lux LXP6K would be superior to the EG4 6000XP based on the spec sheet since they are hybrids vs the EG4 with is an off grid. The lux has the capability of grid monitoring with current transformers or an energy meter. I don't have any experience with either of them.

Someone from signature solar mentioned firmware improvements in the EG4. I think if he could list them, we could make a better informed decision. I assume some of the firmware updates was to support the EG4 battery.

 

[Danke]

Is the duty/tax higher for imports to Canada than the USA?

 

[Smittybells]

Yes that's quite the difference in price. Possibly sacrificing support/warranty(speculating), and I guess you deal with Lux directly(can't say what that could be like)
In the case of the Lux LXP-LB-US 12k, it is UL listed and CSA approved. Are the units that come directly from these distributers also carrying these approvals?

I do understand these types of markups though. Usually on the installer side for HVAC, there is a huge markup on components. Like near 100%, or even more. The overhead of running a business in Canada is extremely high.
However, for DIY types, if we can get the components at the wholesale cost and install it ourselves, then why not!

Here in Canada we get the support, and the warranty, I think it's just a great deal

 

[Smittybells]

Yeah, but those hands seem really cash hangry.
They probably have multi million dollar mortgage to pay and prefer to give their cash to banks instead of manage their expenses correctly

Seriously, the 33% higher price for the EG4 6000XP in Canada is BS, but that brings us back to the excellent value of the LXP6K.
Still, I don't know if this Luxpower unit is exactly the same than the EG4 unit.

I've just been told by lux power the 2 units are the same, brand differences only. I hope this is right. I'll also pay more no problem for support based In canada, and warranty in canada.

 

[Detritalgeo]

I've just been told by lux power the 2 units are the same, brand differences only. I hope this is right. I'll also pay more no problem for support based In canada, and warranty in canada.

Just had one delivered from SPS.. Can't install until I find a V1 Chargeverter.. Then have to sell the 6548..

I considered the other distributor but I think the warranty was only 2 years but the price was half.

 

[Smittybells]

Just had one delivered from SPS.. Can't install until I find a V1 Chargeverter.. Then have to sell the 6548..

I considered the other distributor but I think the warranty was only 2 years but the price was half.

Seems like sps has the best deal going, and local ish support. Just ordered ours