The Company is still operating. The technology has improved. Can you prove your negative statements anyhow?? Fail in all aspects.
These were a solution to a problem that didn’t exist - i’m certain that when they were conceived the manufacturers had no idea that LiFePO4 would last 10+ years.
They cost over twice as much as LiFePO4, and proved to be unreliable - a high percentage of units failed early.
The touted temperature tolerance failed to take in to account that using LiFePO4 in a climate controlled enclosure was still more efficient, less expensive, and more reliable.
Other than that, sure they are great ?
Bromine leaks aren't much good for your health either.Li Fe Po Battery technology is toxic.
Reflow are made in Thailand. I guess that makes them OK.It has to be purchased and shipped from an autocratic China, with no laws protecting customers, and no constitution guarding human rights.
And are made in China, using LiFePO4.First Tesla cars were ridiculously expensive and unreliable. Now their price have gone down to a reasonable level reliability has improved as well .
mining familyMeanwhile the Electric Jesus is hardly on the side of human rights:
Elon Musk praises Chinese workers for ‘burning the 3am oil’ – here’s what that really looks like
Tesla’s massive Shanghai ‘Giga-factory’ pushes its workers to the limit to meet production targets amid an ongoing pandemic lockdownwww.theguardian.com
Example: First Tesla cars were ridiculously expensive and unreliable. Now their price have gone down to a reasonable level reliability has improved as well .
Li Fe Po Battery technology is toxic.
It has to be purchased and shipped from an autocratic China, with no laws protecting customers, and no constitution guarding human rights.
LiFePo4 chemistry technology was stolen from Hydro Quebec under pretext that it would only be marketed and sold in China. I am not trying to make you buy Z-cell again. I congratulate you for your cheap Winston battery find. But if you love your country, then develop the good things that is offered there. China needs true competition. Otherwhise we will all end up living like the Chinese, like another type of farm animal.
I forgot, their cycle life count is also lower than LiFePO4.You asked why the ZCell didn’t take off for mainstream storage - and received several answers all saying essentially the same thing.
That is not a totally accurate statement. China was offered LFP technology because no one else was willing to back it because of the lower energy density when it first came out. China was given a 10 year exclusive royalty free deal to manufacturer and distribute them in 2012. The contract is up this year and many companies in Asia and the USA are already gearing up to make them.LiFePo4 chemistry technology was stolen from Hydro Quebec under pretext that it would only be marketed and sold in China. I am not trying to make you buy Z-cell again
round trip efficiency was one that really made me pause.
These workers are at least able to eat real food. Elon can not be blamed for keeping his factory going during the CCP Zero CoViD Shanghai madness.Meanwhile the Electric Jesus is hardly on the side of human rights:
Elon Musk praises Chinese workers for ‘burning the 3am oil’ – here’s what that really looks like
Tesla’s massive Shanghai ‘Giga-factory’ pushes its workers to the limit to meet production targets amid an ongoing pandemic lockdownwww.theguardian.com
Hats of to those building a Solar work shed, that don't have curious kids looming over and about their cool looking solar equipment. I am a bit taken back by the toxicity and scarcity of LFP cells. I was hoping to get my fantastic world circum-navigation project on wheels in around 4 years time. Now it looks like I have to wait another decade for the "good" batteries to become Easily replacable, and DIY friendly, as in Non Toxic.That is not a totally accurate statement. China was offered LFP technology because no one else was willing to back it because of the lower energy density when it first came out. China was given a 10 year exclusive royalty free deal to manufacturer and distribute them in 2012. The contract is up this year and many companies in Asia and the USA are already gearing up to make them.
3) IP rights kept LFP confined to the Chinese market; this will change after 2022
LFP cathode producers explained to Roskill that the consortium managing LFP’s IP rights reached an agreement with the Chinese battery industry a decade ago in which, as long as LFP was produced and used within China, the consortium would not charge Chinese manufacturers a licensing fee. As a result, the price of Chinese LFP batteries has always been considerably lower than non-Chinese LFP batteries. However, the patents’ restrictions over LFP will start to expire in 2022. Simultaneously, the limitation of LFP exports on Chinese producers will be largely removed, along with the licensing fee for non-Chinese LFP cell producers. The removal of this IP barrier could become the largest opportunity for LFP-based Li-ion batteries to rapidly gain market share in the EV market outside China.
https://roskill.com/news/batteries-...p-rights-esg-simplified-battery-pack-designs/
https://www.lifepo4ag.com/
Can you show me the origin of this information.I forgot, their cycle life count is also lower than LiFePO4.
Could you show the source of this information (in contradiction to):That is not a totally accurate statement. China was offered LFP technology because no one else was willing to back it because of the lower energy density when it first came out. China was given a 10 year exclusive royalty free deal to manufacturer and distribute them in 2012. The contract is up this year and many companies in Asia and the USA are already gearing up to make them.