jrcromer
Sol-Ark Senior Technical Manager
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I gave up on this a long time ago. Honesty is not in their vocabulary. They would be better off if they just didn't say anything. When you have a good product. It will sell itself, without any marketing bs.
I don't know why they aren't confident in their own products.
Please be more specific. Sales and marketing is a shockingly small part of Sol-Ark. The super-majority of the company is in applications, support, repair, and R+D. Very little overhead/sales/marketing despite the size of the company. A true USA success story if you have been paying attention the last decade. Coming from industry to Sol-Ark, I was gobsmacked by how little sales and marketing Sol-Ark does. We are very confident in our product.
James, I'm from Texas. I just think it's getting to hot down there. Where's the 18kW endurance testing? It's an 18k continuous DC inverter right? Or is it?signaturesolarjames said:It's just Texans trashing other Texans, happens in every bar here on Fridays lol.
Speaking of that, @jrcromer ought to consider joining the republic and moving down here.
I don't know why they aren't confident in their own products.
mtnman1 said:said:
I'm curious as to why its so important to understand the history of where these products originated and who was "first"... Seems like there might be an unreasonable amount of emphasis placed on the origins of the products rather than focusing on the merits of the current technology and what may be coming next...
Pardon for the long response, but it is approaching July 4th...
The issue is whether innovation can occur in the USA or not. Earlier up this thread I was talking about cynicism of the role of the USA in globalism. Sol-Ark was founded by USA veterans who care deeply about powering your home including data privacy. Not knowing the origins or history of solar or battery companies means you won't control your data if their is ever a breaking breach, that's 100% certain. If you want to fork your money over to ripoff copycats to save a few bucks, don't pretend it is the same warranty. You are taking on more risk, because it is a smaller product.
What rubs me the wrong way is how much the Luxpower is like the Sol-Ark 15k. It's obvious. Yet neither James nor Eddie will admit it. Despite James being "Sol-Ark Salesperson of the Year" in his words. Luxpower's HQ is Shenzen.
I personally like globalism, although not everybody does. I strongly agree that monitoring systems should be national. Not just talking about where the bits are stored on Amazon. The company itself. Also, I encourage everyone I talk to to call their representatives and request the DOMESTIC CONTENT RIDER be EXPANDED to RESIDENTIAL SOLAR full stop.
While I appreciation of the global economy, I still care if people are ripoff copycats who claim equivalency when their product is evidently smaller. AC nameplate, solar MPPT, battery amp rating.. those are important specs.
For those still tuned in, let's talk about Pytes for something new.
Pytes is based in China, actually owns their BMS, goes through UL9540-2020, and rips Fortress Power off so much that Pytes actually calls their product line "Forest". Charming. Pytes also shows up at the tradeshows and tells Fortress (while being even more polite than Eddie) how much they want to be like them. And then they deliver a server rack with an unambiguous 10 year warranty and 90% DoD with a UL9540-2020 certification, with outdoor cabinet options.
Pytes also credits Fortress Power for a company they want to be like. Just ask them.
James and Eddie are pretending that they didn't do what they did. "Sol-Ark Salesperson of the Year" indeed.
Sol-Ark has uncapped the hybrid inverter market in the USA because of its feature set. Because of the support of its user base, it is growing into a national platform to rival Enphase or SolarEdge. I don't personally feel that a cheaper inverter actually saves a few bucks, especially in whole home backup. But I especially take offense that neither Eddie nor James own up to what they took from Sol-Ark.
Obviously, they don't run at 18kW for those 4 hours. Solar panels that allow the luxpower to run at it's max DC spec aren't available. Sol-Ark is easy to get to its full DC spec using affordable, low efficiency modules. That more than makes up the cost difference between the product.signaturesolarjames said:Well, I was in the factory... Lux is the IP owner, they have a tier 1 manufacturer do the assembly and PCB build. very impressed with the facility and the QC process on each unit. they run for 4 hours before being packed in your box.
Also, is James saying Luxpower is Tier 1? Or is James saying that yet another manufacturer does Luxpower's assembly?
frenemies launch derivative products that rip off design without any innovative thinking for the token reward of taking on the risk of a thousand bucks in cost savings erstwhile their China overlord does everything except admit it made a smaller copy of the Sol-Ark 15k.signaturesolarjames said:The most cooperative frenemies ever... sometime I wonder if our batteries ought to get "Solark Salesperson of the year"
Still have no kickback money lol
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