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The Will 3000 Hand Truck System, 2024 CES, Started buying used panels 3 years ago..

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It looks like I may have good timing, I started buying panels a few years back to do a system and just put them away for future use and just watched a Utube video on 2024 CES and the CES show had a good bit of it for solar dedicated to portable stackable systems that tie into any application as desired like the Will 3000 hand truck system where you just stack the batteries on top of each other and plug them into a head unit on top that does all the rest, Wills hand truck would be perfect for me if it had an inverter that tied into the grid as well as off grid..

This type system with like Sol Ark 15 capabilities but in a smaller package.... Stackable and plug and play and we are there IMO. Is this on the drawing board and coming out does anybody know?

Just wondering thanks....
 
Well what you described is already available as the Delta pro ultra, a 7kW inverter module sitting on top of one or more 6kWh battery modules. Not cheap tho.

If I was in the market I'd be considering something like a tewaycell (no idea if any good)

tewaycell.com

48V ESS

Tewaycell has more than 15 years of experience in the research and development, production and sales of lithium batteries.Tewaycell is a national high-tech enterprise specializing in lithium polymer battery, lithium battery new energy battery products, integrating R & D, production and sales...
tewaycell.com tewaycell.com
 
Will's 3k inverter is ~ $700.
Weighs about 25 pounds.
Sol Ark is ~$7000.
Weighs about 200 pounds.

So, I don't think it is remotely reasonable to expect anybody is trying to put Sol Ark capabilities into EG4 3k box.
Probably not possible.
 
TomC4306 said:
Will's 3k inverter is ~ $700.
Weighs about 25 pounds.
Sol Ark is ~$7000.
Weighs about 200 pounds.

So, I don't think it is remotely reasonable to expect anybody is trying to put Sol Ark capabilities into EG4 3k box.
Probably not possible.
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Well yaa but you might be able to get it like that if you were to game up like 3 head units together to make one that would, say 3 5000 watt units on wheels to where each head does a slightly different task so when you tie them all together as 1 big unit it has capabilities similar. The Sol Ark is the bomb, I don't need it to do all that, For me one that does on/off grid would be perfect in a Will package. Wills is 2000 $, if I could get one for 2500 or 3 that was grid capable that would work. Maybe a device I can add that will make the Will unit able to go grid? Thanks.... So if what I want is expensive it should come down in price over time... Appreciated
 
Brucey said:
Well what you described is already available as the Delta pro ultra, a 7kW inverter module sitting on top of one or more 6kWh battery modules. Not cheap tho.

If I was in the market I'd be considering something like a tewaycell (no idea if any good)

tewaycell.com

48V ESS

Tewaycell has more than 15 years of experience in the research and development, production and sales of lithium batteries.Tewaycell is a national high-tech enterprise specializing in lithium polymer battery, lithium battery new energy battery products, integrating R & D, production and sales...
tewaycell.com tewaycell.com
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You are right ... TO EXPENSIVE. I need a Will 3000 that can do grid... 2 or 3 Will 3000's is perfect for my needs...
 
Moretorque said:
It looks like I may have good timing, I started buying panels a few years back to do a system and just put them away for future use and just watched a Utube video on 2024 CES and the CES show had a good bit of it for solar dedicated to portable stackable systems that tie into any application as desired like the Will 3000 hand truck system where you just stack the batteries on top of each other and plug them into a head unit on top that does all the rest, Wills hand truck would be perfect for me if it had an inverter that tied into the grid as well as off grid..

This type system with like Sol Ark 15 capabilities but in a smaller package.... Stackable and plug and play and we are there IMO. Is this on the drawing board and coming out does anybody know?

Just wondering thanks....
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So you want something that can sell back to the grid or only use the grid as a backup?
You might find this interesting.

Residential Energy Storage Systems

SR-EOV is a new generation of household energy storage system with two output specifications of 220Vand 110V. which can meet the diversifed needs of global users.
www.srnesolar.com www.srnesolar.com
 
This is all new to me, I just want the ability to go grid if I want. The electric companies are part of the Illuminati. My local company is controlled by Goldman Sachs who is rumored to be one of the owners of the Federal Reserve. I want to be independent of our masters the ruling bankers, I know that is impossible for me because I'm to much of a wuss to tough it out and be a real Jeremiah Johnson style man. AliExpress, I was looking on there but all the items I wanted were like wait 2 months. can you trust that? Those prices seem like they are to cheap and if they are real you know flat out it's all slave labor with bad customer service IMO and I don't make my living in China so I want to buy American somewhat even though it's probably to late and they will be bringing the UN troops in soon and killing most of us for all the debt owed to the commies......:)
 
plympton said:
Neat inverter! It's available on Aliexpress, which is pretty funny to me.

www.aliexpress.com

1109.99US $ |6000W 48V Pure Sine Wave Inverter with 60A MPPT Controller 48V to 110V Output 18000W Surge LCD Remote Panel for Home RV Camping| | - AliExpress

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com
www.aliexpress.com www.aliexpress.com
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I don't know anyhting about this stuff, obviously it's 2 new to have reviews. Yes I want a system like this that will go grid as well. The price is right. I liked what Will does because with his for 2 grand each if one goes bad you have the other and I believe that stuff has a track record? The Midnight stuff is expensive like the Rosie but the solar guy I had talks with who has been building system for over 40 years told me to buy good equipment like Midnite and be done with it.
 
That is the thing about it, I go on Amazon and look up Victron and it's 1000's of reviews on each piece and they are 4.5 out of 5... I am sure the Will 3000 would get 10 out of 5 stars possible... To me that is the perfect set up if I can make something like that go grid...
 
Moretorque said:
This is all new to me, I just want the ability to go grid if I want. The electric companies are part of the Illuminati. My local company is controlled by Goldman Sachs who is rumored to be one of the owners of the Federal Reserve. I want to be independent of our masters the ruling bankers, I know that is impossible for me because I'm to much of a wuss to tough it out and be a real Jeremiah Johnson style man. AliExpress, I was looking on there but all the items I wanted were like wait 2 months. can you trust that? Those prices seem like they are to cheap and if they are real you know flat out it's all slave labor with bad customer service IMO and I don't make my living in China so I want to buy American somewhat even though it's probably to late and they will be bringing the UN troops in soon and killing most of us for all the debt owed to the commies......:)
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So you don't want to sell any power back to the grid only use it as a supplement, like this?
Screenshot_20240329-161417.jpg
I've bought BMS and busbars from aliexpress, my inverter came from alibaba and delivered in ~ 10 business days
 
42OhmsPA said:
So you don't want to sell any power back to the grid only use it as a supplement, like this?
View attachment 205623
I've bought BMS and busbars from aliexpress, my inverter came from alibaba and delivered in ~ 10 business days
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My solar panels will not cut it because they were cheapy used non labeled, second my house is not real good for a solar array and I have not researched all the laws yet in my area. I plan on selling the house and going grid less if I can but want the grid option just in case... I want this set up for safety in the future, if I can get a system like I want it only makes sense in many ways in the long run. I can always buy new panels in the future if I can get it all going right down the road in my new place if I don't get killed or have all my property taken by the bankers for talking smack about the fraud of this system...
 
Moretorque said:
My solar panels will not cut it because they were cheapy used non labeled, second my house is not real good for a solar array and I have not researched all the laws yet in my area. I plan on selling the house and going grid less if I can but want the grid option just in case... I want this set up for safety in the future, if I can get a system like I want it only makes sense in many ways in the long run. I can always buy new panels in the future if I can get it all going right down the road in my new place if I don't get killed or have all my property taken by the bankers for talking smack about the fraud of this system...
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Just because they were used and don't have labels does not mean they are bad.
I'd share a photo of them.

Are you in a rural area, what laws? 😉

I don't think you have anything to worry about as long your bills are paid.

I'd start with some load calculations to figure how much power you will need and go from there.
 
It's like right now, I was just looking at a battery on AliExpress. Weighs 250 pounds LIFE4 48 V 15KWH 200AH 6000 cycles 10 year warranty 2 month wait to get it and free shipping for775$. I don't believe that..
 
With AliExpress there's often multiple choices and the cheapest option is not as large in capacity, gotta scroll across the pictures/items to find out what the price really is. Link it here
 
Brucey said:
With AliExpress there's often multiple choices and the cheapest option is not as large in capacity, gotta scroll across the pictures/items to find out what the price really is. Link it here
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OK,thanks,,,,,
 
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