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Some of the forum threads are WAY too long to read but have great information.

Wondering if anyone knows of a tool that can be pointed at a thread in a forum like this & do summarization or question&answer sessions.
 
Kinda hope not, “AI” is known for hallucinations, correct answers that aren’t useful, and a lot of wasted time and effort. I have enough trouble sorting the wheat from the chaff without some automated process mixmastering all the text again.
 
wpns said:
Kinda hope not, “AI” is known for hallucinations, correct answers that aren’t useful, and a lot of wasted time and effort. I have enough trouble sorting the wheat from the chaff without some automated process mixmastering all the text again.
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That’s why you point it at a 20 page thread instead of the dregs of Reddit. It’s better than reading through it from scratch.

Bonus points if it can be tuned to just read the context from people you trust instead of some crazy rando that is about to get themselves ended. The metadata is there.

For instance I would love to auto summarize and search through my own post history
 
Y’all are misunderstanding. Auto summary is something a lot of people use at work nowadays for work documentation etc. It is encouraged in a lot of places.

Would you rather manually go through 50 pages of a thread to find Tim’s wisdom, manually write it down as it comes, or have a program do it?

Also, I bet if I didn’t use the shamed name of the technology and called it an auto-summarizer you would have a more neutral reaction.
 
Again, what decides what's important? I learn a lot on here from reading threads, quite often things that are side notes to the subject.
 
zanydroid said:
Y’all are misunderstanding. Auto summary is something a lot of people use at work nowadays for work documentation etc. It is encouraged in a lot of places.

Would you rather manually go through 50 pages of a thread to find Tim’s wisdom, manually write it down as it comes, or have a program do it?

Also, I bet if I didn’t use the shamed name of the technology and called it an auto-summarizer you would have a more neutral reaction.
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You are relying on a computer to read Tim’s post and decide what it means then tell you.

Nuance doesn’t play well in AI.
Context plays a large part in communication.

If it doesn’t interest you enough to read it then that’s ok.
 
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zanydroid said:
Y’all are misunderstanding. Auto summary is something a lot of people use at work nowadays for work documentation etc. It is encouraged in a lot of places.

Would you rather manually go through 50 pages of a thread to find Tim’s wisdom, manually write it down as it comes, or have a program do it?

Also, I bet if I didn’t use the shamed name of the technology and called it an auto-summarizer you would have a more neutral reaction.
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I'd rather read the whole 50 pages when I have the time. I would likely pull more information out of it than I initially intended. Several hundreds of years ago humans were known to be able to memorize those 50 pages (or more) word for word; 30 years ago I knew by heart every phone number of every person whom I would ever need to call. The movie "Idiocracy" is coming to life right before our very eyes!

ETA: Keyword searches are very easy to use and can narrow down the information you are looking for. Give that a try!
 
thepartyhound said:
I'd rather read the whole 50 pages when I have the time. I would likely pull more information out of it than I initially intended. Several hundreds of years ago humans were known to be able to memorize those 50 pages (or more) word for word; 30 years ago I knew by heart every phone number of every person whom I would ever need to call. The movie "Idiocracy" is coming to life right before our very eyes!

ETA: Keyword searches are very easy to use and can narrow down the information you are looking for. Give that a try!
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What if you already read those pages and don’t want to sift through the chaff again?

I read and write a ton of stuff across different forums and I don’t have the workflow to summarize it for myself/have ready to go copy pasta for different questions.

I’m fully capable of doing my own research into a subject from a traditional literature search (I did this for years as an engineering graduate researcher and for engineering day job), I want to be able to do it faster and more effectively

FWIW, there is a disconnect here between the general sentiment on this thread and the hope across many industries around using LLMs to increase productivity.

Would you rather read 50 pages which includes 20 pages of sniping and 5 pages of clueless people to find the nuggets, or have a computer with infinite patience help you out?
 
zanydroid said:
Would you rather read 50 pages which includes 20 pages of sniping and 5 pages of clueless people to find the nuggets, or have a computer with infinite patience help you out?
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How do we know that the LLM will be able to distinguish between the 50/20/5? Hint: It can’t, it doesn’t ‘understand’ the text.
 
wpns said:
How do we know that the LLM will be able to distinguish between the 50/20/5? Hint: It can’t, it doesn’t ‘understand’ the text.
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It would need a preprocessing pipeline when feeding in the context

These systems work OK for good quality input text.

I mean I could just filter by my username, I like to think I don’t write that much bad content.

Or by Tim’s username
 
wpns said:
How do we know that the LLM will be able to distinguish between the 50/20/5? Hint: It can’t, it doesn’t ‘understand’ the text.
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Also there are likely off the shelf models to find writing quality level.

Not that this is proof against bullshit posts. I can think of a few threads in the past year that were pretty useless but punched above the weight because the person was good at technical writing and spin.
 
Unless the AI is trained in solar technologies it has no way of properly picking out the good bits and removing the chaff. AI is way off being useful, no different from self driving cars always being just a few years away.
 
kommando said:
Unless the AI is trained in solar technologies it has no way of properly picking out the good bits and removing the chaff. AI is way off being useful, no different from self driving cars always being just a few years away.
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There are plenty of people working on production and research pipelines as I’ve described. The Bard driven summary in beta at the top of Google results is similar to what we are discussing.

I guess we can agree to disagree on how useful it would be as a supervised research tool if you already know a good deal about a domain

If I ask the AI to do a summary of 500 of my own posts on a subject (matched by keyword or semantic search), I will surely supervise and edit the outputs.

I agree that if you know nothing about a technical area using an LLM to get anywhere will be questionable. Likewise for telling an LLM to give you a step by step recipe for how to wire up a solar setup.
 
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