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Kidvic

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First attempt at solar. Here is a few pics of my EG4 Solar BrightMount ground mount work. Trench, anchored sonotubes, 2 cubic yards of 5k psi concrete, epoxy the bolts and mount the frames. Will square them up, run my 6 awg grounding hardware and drive the grounding rods into the ground. Suggestions welcome.
 

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First attempt at solar. Here is a few pics of my EG4 Solar BrightMount ground mount work. Trench, anchored sonotubes, 2 cubic yards of 5k psi concrete, epoxy the bolts and mount the frames. Will square them up, run my 6 awg grounding hardware and drive the grounding rods into the ground. Suggestions welcome.
How far from your array to your existing building ground? The ground rods might not be needed for your situation.
 
How far from your array to your existing building ground? The ground rods might not be needed for your situation.
I actually don't know the answer SW. I'm erring on the side of caution. Pulled the rods for an old electric fence so I thought I'd use them. The distance from the grounding rods to my solar room is about 70 feet. I plan on driving an extra one just outside the room. Your thoughts are appreciated though ... thx
 
I actually don't know the answer SW. I'm erring on the side of caution. Pulled the rods for an old electric fence so I thought I'd use them. The distance from the grounding rods to my solar room is about 70 feet. I plan on driving an extra one just outside the room. Your thoughts are appreciated though ... thx
It's generally recommended to not have any auxiliary ground rods on your system. You just need to make sure your panels/racking equipment/enclosures and such are all grounded back to the main building ground.. assuming that the solar system will be connected into that same buildings system. You just run that ground cable along with your PV + and PV - wires.
 
First attempt at solar. Here is a few pics of my EG4 Solar BrightMount ground mount work. Trench, anchored sonotubes, 2 cubic yards of 5k psi concrete, epoxy the bolts and mount the frames. Will square them up, run my 6 awg grounding hardware and drive the grounding rods into the ground. Suggestions welcome.
Looks great! First attempt looks like a pro
 
Why have all that disturbed soil from the trench all around the sontubes? Why not just use an attachment that digs the round holes the size of the tubes? It's definitely not going anywhere, but?
 
How far from your array to your existing building ground? The ground rods might not be needed for your situation.

Why have all that disturbed soil from the trench all around the sontubes? Why not just use an attachment that digs the round holes the size of the tubes? It's definitely not going anywhere, but?
I thought the same. I bought an 18" auger for my tractor. The hole needed to be a little less than 4' deep. After 2 broken shear pins and a hole that slanted about 15 degrees I realized this wasn't going to work out as planned. I'm to old to be using post hole diggers for very long. Good question though ...
 
I am guessing all of those tubes bottom terminate into a full length concrete beam.

Great job!
 
Look good. What kind and how many panels will you be installing on the mount? Did you hand mix the concrete or did you have it brought in? I mixed about 20 50lb bags of Quikrete for 10 holes for my install.
 
It's generally recommended to not have any auxiliary ground rods on your system. You just need to make sure your panels/racking equipment/enclosures and such are all grounded back to the main building ground.. assuming that the solar system will be connected into that same buildings system. You just run that ground cable along with your PV + and PV - wires.
Understood. Thx. Can I use solid 6 awg along with the PV wiring or should I do something like 6 awg THHN stranded wire? Your comments are appreciated. All new endeavor for me : ) An after thought .... would it be ok to use solid copper for ganging the panels together and use stranded AWG from the combiner box to the solar charge controller?
 
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I’d be tempted to join those rails together to get a few more panels.
I have mixed thoughts on that. Being a newbie I don't know the answer. It almost seems like it would be easier to adjust the panels and frame if they were smaller. If they were all connected I'd have to have a half a dozen helpers to change the angle of all of them put together. I may not be seeing the entire picture though ... appreciate your input. Thx
 
I have mixed thoughts on that. Being a newbie I don't know the answer. It almost seems like it would be easier to adjust the panels and frame if they were smaller. If they were all connected I'd have to have a half a dozen helpers to change the angle of all of them put together. I may not be seeing the entire picture though ... appreciate your input. Thx
True that. I didn’t notice they were adjustable.
 
I was told recently by one of our resident experts that stranded insulated was his preference for grounding conductor.
 
Look good. What kind and how many panels will you be installing on the mount? Did you hand mix the concrete or did you have it brought in? I mixed about 20 50lb bags of Quikrete for 10 holes for my install.
I opted for the REC Solar REC420AA-PURE-R Alpha Series 420 watt panels. A Norwegian company that had good reviews. I bought a few bags of concrete from Lowes but after calculating the amount of mix I'd need I changed my mind. Too old : ) Having the concrete delivered wasn't that much more expensive than buying individual bags and mixing it myself. I had them mix it thin with chips which will make it tight and strong. I wound up using 2 cubic yards for the (12) 12" x 4' sonotubes. Having done it once I feel more confident doing it again if I chose to expand my array. My biggest mistake was allowing a rain storm to fill my trench with about 8" of water. Had to hand bail with a bucket. ugh
 
I was told recently by one of our resident experts that stranded insulated was his preference for grounding conductor.
Yes ... I kind of figured that would be the answer. Always the more expen$ive option : ) Thx
 
I opted for the REC Solar REC420AA-PURE-R Alpha Series 420 watt panels. A Norwegian company that had good reviews. I bought a few bags of concrete from Lowes but after calculating the amount of mix I'd need I changed my mind. Too old : ) Having the concrete delivered wasn't that much more expensive than buying individual bags and mixing it myself. I had them mix it thin with chips which will make it tight and strong. I wound up using 2 cubic yards for the (12) 12" x 4' sonotubes. Having done it once I feel more confident doing it again if I chose to expand my array. My biggest mistake was allowing a rain storm to fill my trench with about 8" of water. Had to hand bail with a bucket. ugh
I’m curious what you mean by mix it in with chips.
 
I’m curious what you mean by mix it in with chips.
I’m curious what you mean by mix it in with chips.
Not an expert but was questioning the concrete company. They use different aggregate depending on the purpose and application. I'm guessing they use courser rock for some applications. He suggested smaller chips for added strength. Sort of made sense to me. I'll defer to the experts most of the time.
 
First attempt at solar. Here is a few pics of my EG4 Solar BrightMount ground mount work. Trench, anchored sonotubes, 2 cubic yards of 5k psi concrete, epoxy the bolts and mount the frames. Will square them up, run my 6 awg grounding hardware and drive the grounding rods into the ground. Suggestions welcome.
Amazing view you have there.
 
I opted for the REC Solar REC420AA-PURE-R Alpha Series 420 watt panels. A Norwegian company that had good reviews. I bought a few bags of concrete from Lowes but after calculating the amount of mix I'd need I changed my mind. Too old : ) Having the concrete delivered wasn't that much more expensive than buying individual bags and mixing it myself. I had them mix it thin with chips which will make it tight and strong. I wound up using 2 cubic yards for the (12) 12" x 4' sonotubes. Having done it once I feel more confident doing it again if I chose to expand my array. My biggest mistake was allowing a rain storm to fill my trench with about 8" of water. Had to hand bail with a bucket. ugh
Yeah, I get it. I did the mixing in a wheelbarrow usually two bags at a time, and rolled it down the hill about 100ft to the site, and slowly added it in. That took a while, did the back posts first, then the front ones a few weeks later. I had asked local concrete companies how much to deliver and they said they would only do 2 yards minimum and I only needed like a half yard. Plus, there was a fuel surcharge, and less than full truck fees, and I think it would've cost me at least $500. So, being the cheapskate I am went with $100 of Quikrete and did it myself.

I saw 12 posts on there, so I was trying to figure how many panels you could get on the whole thing, so maybe 20 or 24?
 
First attempt at solar. Here is a few pics of my EG4 Solar BrightMount ground mount work. Trench, anchored sonotubes, 2 cubic yards of 5k psi concrete, epoxy the bolts and mount the frames. Will square them up, run my 6 awg grounding hardware and drive the grounding rods into the ground. Suggestions welcome.
Damn, nice work! They won't be going anywhere.
I'm jealous of the view and excavator.

I busted something in the gear box of my PTO auger on my last ground mount (some idiot replaced the shear bolt with a regular...) so I had to resort to the manual post hole digger and digging bar ... Fun times. The best part was the handle of the wheelbarrow busted after I mixed up 2 80lb bags for the 3rd hole.

I agree with others, run the ground wire back to your main system ground and forget the additional ground rods.
 

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