Doesn't the badly printed 'CE' sticker covering the code ring alarm bells?i found it.. seems they only sell a 8 pack.. i only need 4.. or only have room for 4 of any Ah that is this size or smaller.
I will be in raleigh NC area later this year,, full time RV out west currently heading east.. and might order the 8 pack to sell or spilt with
someone that needs 4 like me..
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420Ah Cells on Aliexpress!?
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Bingo!
The "42" is bigger than the "0"
You don't suppose these guys would ship cells clearly labeled "280 Ah" after taking the time to doctor pictures in the ad?
Would have been so much cleaner to order counterfeit labels.
I think the price is a premium over what people are now paying for honestly marketed 280 Ah cells.
Try not to be the one born this minute.
What hes doing is trying to gain an edge on all the other 280ah cell sellers by labelling and listing them as 420ah. Theres no free lunch or magic beans, if its the size of a 280ah it cant be significantly more.
If hes this dishonest and playing customers for suckers what else will he pull?
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I played around with used 280Ah cells with the overkill BMS and got about 230Ah out of them which I considered pretty good. Supplier refunded me $160 on Alibaba which I was surprised about 
haha never thought I would see any money.
The 420Ah intrigued me too and I ordered a patch and they should arrive in July latest beg. August.
Knowing that they might have their specs wrong I am expecting about 320Ah which is still pretty good price if that tests to be true...
I did similar calculations on battery volume increase and weight increase from the specs they have published on the website and it seems that their batteries for some reason have a higher energy density per spec compared to others. That also made me want to know what is behind all this. Also want to know if they really are grade A.
If y'all are interested I will post my findings here
PS: I am trying to find a BMS where the low temp sensor works other than overkill, do you guys know one? I tested Daly and high temp worked great but low temp at 7 Fahrenheit did not work as Will Prowse analyzed in his videos.
PPS: Above mentioned supplier/manufacturer on Alibaba Exliporc New Energy (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd. has around 200 280Ah cells in Chicago now which means a few days US shipping if y'all are interested... talk to Gina, her English is pretty good and she is interested in more fair business.
haha never thought I would see any money.The 420Ah intrigued me too and I ordered a patch and they should arrive in July latest beg. August.
Knowing that they might have their specs wrong I am expecting about 320Ah which is still pretty good price if that tests to be true...
I did similar calculations on battery volume increase and weight increase from the specs they have published on the website and it seems that their batteries for some reason have a higher energy density per spec compared to others. That also made me want to know what is behind all this. Also want to know if they really are grade A.
If y'all are interested I will post my findings here
PS: I am trying to find a BMS where the low temp sensor works other than overkill, do you guys know one? I tested Daly and high temp worked great but low temp at 7 Fahrenheit did not work as Will Prowse analyzed in his videos.
PPS: Above mentioned supplier/manufacturer on Alibaba Exliporc New Energy (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd. has around 200 280Ah cells in Chicago now which means a few days US shipping if y'all are interested... talk to Gina, her English is pretty good and she is interested in more fair business.
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I played around with used 280Ah cells with the overkill BMS and got about 230Ah out of them which I considered pretty good. Supplier refunded me $160 on Alibaba which I was surprised about
The 420Ah intrigued me too and I ordered a patch and they should arrive in July latest beg. August.
Knowing that they might have their specs wrong I am expecting about 320Ah which is still pretty good price if that tests to be true...
I did similar calculations on battery volume increase and weight increase from the specs they have published on the website and it seems that their batteries for some reason have a higher energy density per spec compared to others. That also made me want to know what is behind all this. Also want to know if they really are grade A.
If y'all are interested I will post my findings here
PS: I am trying to find a BMS where the low temp sensor works other than overkill, do you guys know one? I tested Daly and high temp worked great but low temp at 7 Fahrenheit did not work as Will Prowse analyzed in his videos.
PPS: Above mentioned supplier/manufacturer on Alibaba Exliporc New Energy (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd. has around 200 280Ah cells in Chicago now which means a few days US shipping if y'all are interested... talk to Gina, her English is pretty good and she is interested in more fair business.
that would be super cool to see the cap of the big ones.. on the off chance they do test out at 420ah that would be one hell of a deal.. i was looking at 280 or 310 for RV as well..
thanks
Sooooooo...... 310 catl cells were not possible 'Insert lot's of dialog'........ But we have this... https://diysolarforum.com/resources/lishen-150ah-specification-sheet-w-photo-caro.177/ 420 sounds like a "pipe deam" Buuuuut who knows? Try it and let us know!
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You may be interested in this thread about US warehouse batteries supplier, I hope she will answer some questions.
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$122.5/pc for EVE 280ah grade A+ quality and CATL 310AH is available in the USA warehouse
hello guys,nice to meet you here.We are happy to announce that we have sent hundreds of CATL 310AH lifepo4 cells to our USA warehouse in CA 91730,they will arrive in next early month,and now we are planning to send more EVE 280AH to the warehouse so we can solve the issue of long time delivery
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Are you talking about the 310 cells or 420 cells?
The picture depicts "
An alternative is Lishen 150ah cells with M6 studs that are currently in stock and ready to ship. These will test out at around 155ah, and two of them are teh same size as one of the 272ah cells. So, you could pack 310ah into the same space that they 272ah cells would give you 280ah+. However, you may need an additional bms or two and, of course, more work doing the build.
32 Lishen 150ah cells $1,747.20"...
An alternative is Lishen 150ah cells with M6 studs that are currently in stock and ready to ship. These will test out at around 155ah, and two of them are teh same size as one of the 272ah cells. So, you could pack 310ah into the same space that they 272ah cells would give you 280ah+. However, you may need an additional bms or two and, of course, more work doing the build.
32 Lishen 150ah cells $1,747.20"...
We've ordered a set of 4 of these cells to test. Very, very curious.
If they fail we'll be sure to claw our money back (or attempt to) - paid by credit card.
We asked the seller:
"Hi. Regarding your 420ah cells. The photos show them to be 400ah, not 420ah. Can you confirm what their capacity is please. Have they actually tested out at 420ah (your description does say minimum capacity of 420ah)"
Their answer:
"Hello, dear friend, this battery is 420A. The photo shows that 400A is not its actual capacity. Our battery has been tested and the lowest capacity is 420A. The quality of the battery is very good. Please rest assured to buy, thank you"
...so, can't wait to get them to either be very pleasantly surprised or expectedly disappointed
..and yes, we will post a full review
If they fail we'll be sure to claw our money back (or attempt to) - paid by credit card.
We asked the seller:
"Hi. Regarding your 420ah cells. The photos show them to be 400ah, not 420ah. Can you confirm what their capacity is please. Have they actually tested out at 420ah (your description does say minimum capacity of 420ah)"
Their answer:
"Hello, dear friend, this battery is 420A. The photo shows that 400A is not its actual capacity. Our battery has been tested and the lowest capacity is 420A. The quality of the battery is very good. Please rest assured to buy, thank you"
...so, can't wait to get them to either be very pleasantly surprised or expectedly disappointed
..and yes, we will post a full review
GR6627
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Really looking forward to your tests on the 420Ah batteries. I know that RGIvy has some on order as well. Thanks to both of you for taking the leap.
Overkill and JBD appear to be very similar (as in the same).
I have 2 of the JBD's with bluetooth modules that cost around $75. They work very well. Takes a couple of weeks from Ali and occasionally there is a seller on ebay as well. They have two sensors, one on board the BMS (for high temp), and one wired for low temp. So far they are working great.
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Don't buy! Cells have 240Ah - not 420Ah.
Seller will not acept any shown evidence for that.
See attached files - and make your own mind about it.
His response: Hello dear friend
Your measurement is inaccurate, and the charger shows the capacity of the battery used in this charge.
The charging data of the battery in different stages is different. It cannot represent the actual capacity of the battery.
If you can’t provide a strong proof, we will not be able to claim against the supplier
Writing me again: I DIScharged from 3,65V to 2,5V and got 240Ah. Seller doesn't know what he is talking about.
Youtube-Video from discharge - 2 Frames per minute (about 10 hours in fast forward).
Be warned
Andreas
Seller will not acept any shown evidence for that.
See attached files - and make your own mind about it.
His response: Hello dear friend
Your measurement is inaccurate, and the charger shows the capacity of the battery used in this charge.
The charging data of the battery in different stages is different. It cannot represent the actual capacity of the battery.
If you can’t provide a strong proof, we will not be able to claim against the supplier
Writing me again: I DIScharged from 3,65V to 2,5V and got 240Ah. Seller doesn't know what he is talking about.
Youtube-Video from discharge - 2 Frames per minute (about 10 hours in fast forward).
Be warned
Andreas
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GR6627
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Thanks Andreas.
My bubble of optimism has been burst. But my wallet feels more secure.
In the mean time...
... the stores have now magically consolidated, as #910805014, and so has the product. Now all are listed at $600.17, and it appears that the shown label now looks more professional.
This story gets better every day. Oh well, guess I'll order the 380Ah. Since they are black wrapped, they must be legit. LOL
My bubble of optimism has been burst. But my wallet feels more secure.
In the mean time...
... the stores have now magically consolidated, as #910805014, and so has the product. Now all are listed at $600.17, and it appears that the shown label now looks more professional.
This story gets better every day. Oh well, guess I'll order the 380Ah. Since they are black wrapped, they must be legit. LOL
Did you pay by credit card? If so, hopefully you can claw it back.
We paid by credit card in the hope that if we can prove the product fails specs we can attempt to claw it back. This is partly why we specifically asked the seller about the capacity so we have it in writing. That may or may not help.
.... looking forward to getting my cells .... but just because I'm a masochist
That's a damn shame. I would have expected them to test at least in the 270ah-280ah range.
Dispute it with your CC. And thanks for the info.
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When it is too good to be true. I hope you will get your money back.
The seller has 60% positve feedback.
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The seller has 60% positve feedback.
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GR6627
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Just out of curiosity, which store did you order these from?We've ordered a set of 4 of these cells to test. Very, very curious.
If they fail we'll be sure to claw our money back (or attempt to) - paid by credit card.
We asked the seller:
"Hi. Regarding your 420ah cells. The photos show them to be 400ah, not 420ah. Can you confirm what their capacity is please. Have they actually tested out at 420ah (your description does say minimum capacity of 420ah)"
Their answer:
"Hello, dear friend, this battery is 420A. The photo shows that 400A is not its actual capacity. Our battery has been tested and the lowest capacity is 420A. The quality of the battery is very good. Please rest assured to buy, thank you"
...so, can't wait to get them to either be very pleasantly surprised or expectedly disappointed
..and yes, we will post a full review
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Are 420ah the largest available?
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