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Xuba Electronics: DEAL - 280AH LiFePo4 cells. Purchase & Review

Well, did another capacity test with 8 of my Xuba 280Ah EVE cells. Staying on topic, ha ha.

Was aiming for an upper limit of 26.80V. Took some doing again to charge the battery to a steady resting voltage. I'm learning how frustrating CC/ CV charging can be, time consuming when trying to get to a final resting voltage (somewhere in the middle). I let the battery rest overnight and it still dropped to 26.76V. I went with it anyway, close enough. Start of my morning, working from home.

Lower limit was 24V under some load. Got about 61% capacity usage (4,420Wh / 7,168Wh or 172Ah / 280Ah). Was expecting closer to 80% (5,734Wh / 7168Wh). Perhaps it's my testing method. Trying to be more real-world as opposed to perfect testing conditions. The C-rate was up & down throughout the day (183W - 1,500W), averaging ~440W/h (<0.1C) in about 10 hours. Fridge would kick on & off, brief coffee warm-ups with the microwave, lunch break, etc....

1st Pic - Begin test, Inverter off, resting voltage, 26.76V, cells reasonably balanced
2nd Pic - Inverter on, minor drop in voltage
3rd Pic - Running home office, Frig, & coffee maker, 1.5Kw peak for a few minutes
4th Pic - Hit lower limit of 24V under load
5th Pic - Powered everything off, Inverter still on, voltage recovers a bit
6th Pic - Inverter off, resting voltage 24.29V after half an hour or so

I was using the ISDT BattGo meter (right) voltage as reference, as it matched closest to my hand-held multi-meter (not-shown). Using Drok meter (middle) for total Wh or Ah. There's a little voltage offset between meters, but all are in the same time-line. Perhaps I should use the inverter voltage instead. It tends to be the lowest compared to the rest.

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Well, did another capacity test with 8 of my Xuba 280Ah EVE cells. Staying on topic, ha ha.

Was aiming for an upper limit of 26.80V. Took some doing again to charge the battery to a steady resting voltage. I'm learning how frustrating CC/ CV charging can be, time consuming when trying to get to a final resting voltage (somewhere in the middle). I let the battery rest overnight and it still dropped to 26.76V. I went with it anyway, close enough. Start of my morning, working from home.

Lower limit was 24V under some load. Got about 61% capacity usage (4,420Wh / 7,168Wh or 172Ah / 280Ah). Was expecting closer to 80% (5,734Wh / 7168Wh). Perhaps it's my testing method. Trying to be more real-world as opposed to perfect testing conditions. The C-rate was up & down throughout the day (183W - 1,500W), averaging ~440W/h (<0.1C) in about 10 hours. Fridge would kick on & off, brief coffee warm-ups with the microwave, lunch break, etc....

1st Pic - Begin test, Inverter off, resting voltage, 26.76V, cells reasonably balanced
2nd Pic - Inverter on, minor drop in voltage
3rd Pic - Running home office, Frig, & coffee maker, 1.5Kw peak for a few minutes
4th Pic - Hit lower limit of 24V under load
5th Pic - Powered everything off, Inverter still on, voltage recovers a bit
6th Pic - Inverter off, resting voltage 24.29V after half an hour or so

I was using the ISDT BattGo meter (right) voltage as reference, as it matched closest to my hand-held multi-meter (not-shown). Using Drok meter (middle) for total Wh or Ah. There's a little voltage offset between meters, but all are in the same time-line. Perhaps I should use the inverter voltage instead. It tends to be the lowest compared to the rest.
IDK, I think you're leaving a lot on the table stopping at 24V. I think I'd be aiming at 2.875V on the lowest cell or 23V for the pack. That was my lower cell V target. The only reason I didn't go that low in my test, was the fridge compressor failed to start above my target. I had the fridge set on the highest of 3 voltage settings in the menu. It looks like it's cell #7 you need to be watching from that test.
 
Hey the new Chargery manual is up and online ... GREAT job Steve ...

 
My 8 Xuba 280ah cells arrived today. All in perfect shape, and are clearly new. Each cell measured 3.276 or 3.275.

Timeline
March 13th - Ordered
March 19th - Shipped via 'SEA' (Saved me $100+)
April 21th - Fedex delivered to my house in NC. No additional charges required

My total cost with SEA shipping was $980.

Included 8 bus bars and screws.

Very happy...would order again without hesitation. :)

THANKS to everyone here (especially Steve) for the info that lead me to this deal!!
 
My 8 Xuba 280ah cells arrived today. All in perfect shape, and are clearly new. Each cell measured 3.276 or 3.275.

Timeline
March 13th - Ordered
March 19th - Shipped via 'SEA' (Saved me $100+)
April 21th - Fedex delivered to my house in NC. No additional charges required

My total cost with SEA shipping was $980.

Included 8 bus bars and screws.

Very happy...would order again without hesitation. :)

THANKS to everyone here (especially Steve) for the info that lead me to this deal!!

Great news! I will update this thread when mine arrive. Very glad to hear of your easy deal!
 
I have just asked a quotation to Europe (Portugal), I also got a good price around 960 USD. Shipping by Sea + Train.
Wan Amy assured that Customs Taxes was included. Can it be trusted? Anyone from Europe that has ordered before?
One thing that I not 100% comfortable is that all discussion has been made inside Alibaba site and not by e-mail. Is this normal?
 
I have just asked a quotation to Europe (Portugal), I also got a good price around 960 USD. Shipping by Sea + Train.
Wan Amy assured that Customs Taxes was included. Can it be trusted? Anyone from Europe that has ordered before?
One thing that I not 100% comfortable is that all discussion has been made inside Alibaba site and not by e-mail. Is this normal?
Yes it is normal for internal messenger because it can be used to cover your ass if something goes wrong. IE a vendor says cells are Grade-A in messenger and you get Grade-V junk you have them on it...

EU is Duty & Tax Paid. There are a few exception but they are not EU Member States though.
 
I have just asked a quotation to Europe (Portugal), I also got a good price around 960 USD. Shipping by Sea + Train.
Wan Amy assured that Customs Taxes was included. Can it be trusted? Anyone from Europe that has ordered before?
One thing that I not 100% comfortable is that all discussion has been made inside Alibaba site and not by e-mail. Is this normal?

I ordered 8x280Ah cells to Ireland.
661.36 USD the cells + 330.68 shipping by sea, tax included. Make sure you have "DDP" set as your trade terms in Alibaba.

Didn't get them yet but should be all good.
 
What method of payment are you guys using?

Bank transfer. You can choose between Euro to a bank in Germany or USD to a bank in Singapore. I paid in Euro, it seems the mark up for the currency conversion was about 10Euro. Still saved about 25 compared to credit card, it took about 2 days to get processed.

A benefit of CC is the added protection but you're covered by Alibaba as well and I had some added trust in Xuba because of this Forum.
 
What method of payment are you guys using?
I used a Capital 1 MasterCard. Like some others using a Cap 1 CC, I had the window switch to Cap 1, who text'd me a code to enter, to prove I was ordering the stuff. Then it switched back to Alibaba and my order went thru approved. At that point only Cap 1 knew my cell number tied to that CC account. The text also said no one from Cap 1 would call and ask for that code #. Others here had the same thing happen, but some others did not have that happen. YMMV.....
 
Kind of undecided between Xuba and Dongguan... the later gave me better quote, but Amy has been great... any thoughts to help me "tie-break" ?
 
I've designed some cell spacers for these cells. They're designed to allow for buildings packs by locking the cells together and also providing a 10mm spacing between each cell to allow for ventilation. The only issue is that I don't have these cells yet so I've had to guess the dimensions. If someone can provide dimensions so I can complete the design, I'd really appreciate it.

Ideally I'd like the following measurements:
  1. outer dimensions (I got the current dimensions off Alibaba but they may be incorrect)
  2. centres of the terminals in relation to the edges of the cell
  3. diameter of the raised terminals
You can view the cell spacers here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4307945

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Your keyed design makes for a very flexible installation. It would be great if the ends were keyed too.
 
I've designed some cell spacers for these cells. They're designed to allow for buildings packs by locking the cells together and also providing a 10mm spacing between each cell to allow for ventilation. The only issue is that I don't have these cells yet so I've had to guess the dimensions. If someone can provide dimensions so I can complete the design, I'd really appreciate it.

Ideally I'd like the following measurements:
  1. outer dimensions (I got the current dimensions off Alibaba but they may be incorrect)
  2. centres of the terminals in relation to the edges of the cell
  3. diameter of the raised terminals
You can view the cell spacers here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4307945

Same thread post #551 and #553 to name a few.
 
Easy to add those, I'll do it tomorrow.
I would have at least 2 different files for the printer, probably 4. The outer edges don't need the dovetails and just add extra work and use extra material for the printer. You could draw out a pattern and then say you need so many of X1, X2, X3, and X4. It would depend on how many cells in the pack and which orientation you want them in. There is a limited number of variations for a 4, 8, or 16 cell pack, that make sense to use..
 
I would have at least 2 different files for the printer, probably 4. The outer edges don't need the dovetails and just add extra work and use extra material for the printer. You could draw out a pattern and then say you need so many of X1, X2, X3, and X4. It would depend on how many cells in the pack and which orientation you want them in. There is a limited number of variations for a 4, 8, or 16 cell pack, that make sense to use..

If you click on the link provided there's different versions for the ends which don't have interlinks.
 
Been trying to find the dimension of this battery and have not found it. The only thing I found was shipping measurements.

Greg
 
Thank you. Just after I posted this Amy came online and answered. She said right now that sea was the best option because air is getting slow. Waiting on her to give me a price on 12 pcs both air and sea.

Greg
 

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