yabert
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Clearly!
Thanks to shared your experiment.
Luxpower LXP6K vs EG4 6000XP
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Thanks to shared your experiment.
yabert
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I finally put my hand on a Luxpower spec sheet who indicate that unit effectively weight 53 lbs like the EG4.
So the Luxpower LXP6K (or SNA-US 6000) is the same as EG4 6000XP.
I'm waiting for a quote from a canadian supplier. I expect to pay around 2000CAD$ who is equivalent at 1399US$ like the EG4 price.
Fingers crossed.
So the Luxpower LXP6K (or SNA-US 6000) is the same as EG4 6000XP.
I'm waiting for a quote from a canadian supplier. I expect to pay around 2000CAD$ who is equivalent at 1399US$ like the EG4 price.
Fingers crossed.
yabert
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I got a quote from a canadian solar installer for the Luxpower 6kW who give a really good view of the real value of this product.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:
Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$
Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%
Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:
Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$
Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%
Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.
I think you're talking about this unit?
Luxpower LXP-LB-US 12k Hybrid Inverter | All-In-One Solar Inverter | 18000W PV Input | 12000W Output | 48V 120/240V Split Phase | LXP-LB-US 12k [UL & CSA Approved]
Introducing the LXP-LB-US 12k All-In-One Hybrid Inverter - the ultimate power solution for any solar project! This innovative hybrid inverter, with the model number LXP-LB-US 12k, combines the features of a grid-tied and off-grid system into one, eliminating the need for charge controllers or...
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I came across this one as well, and thought it seems identical to the "EG4 18kPV".
Not to muddy this thread, but it's I think the same concept. Same inverter, but with the original Lux label on it.
The CAD price seems decent(a bit of a premium but not much) compared to CC's USD>CAD conversion, and you don't have to deal with importing stuff.
But it still sounds like a lot more than what you found it for.
Yes that's quite the difference in price. Possibly sacrificing support/warranty(speculating), and I guess you deal with Lux directly(can't say what that could be like)I got a quote from a canadian solar installer for the Luxpower 6kW who give a really good view of the real value of this product.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:
Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$
Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%
Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.
In the case of the Lux LXP-LB-US 12k, it is UL listed and CSA approved. Are the units that come directly from these distributers also carrying these approvals?
I do understand these types of markups though. Usually on the installer side for HVAC, there is a huge markup on components. Like near 100%, or even more. The overhead of running a business in Canada is extremely high.
However, for DIY types, if we can get the components at the wholesale cost and install it ourselves, then why not!
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Quattrohead
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You should start an import business then cuz obviously it's dead easy to make a boatload of money out of it. Try it and let us know how it goes for you.I got a quote from a canadian solar installer for the Luxpower 6kW who give a really good view of the real value of this product.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:
Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$
Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%
Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.
yabert
Solar Enthusiast
yes.
yabert
Solar Enthusiast
Import business only, no, but I thought about start to install solar/battery stuffs.
The thing is solar isn't really popular here with hydropower cost equivalent of 0.05-0.07$US / kWh.
To add, HydroQuebec (main/only supplier) don't buy solar electricity from his customers ?
Detritalgeo
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I will see if I can do the same thing. Thanks.I got a quote from a canadian solar installer for the Luxpower 6kW who give a really good view of the real value of this product.
I put everything in US$ to be on the same page:
Some Canadian supplier: 2100$
Sig solar/Current connect: 1399$
The quote I got: 880$
Man!! What is the real value of this awesome inverter when it exit china factory? 700$?
To me all this look like some chinese designers/assembly-line worker worked really hard to manage to offer an awesome value 6kW inverter and some NA reseller's benefiting of this work to fill their pockets instead of offering this awesome value to customers.
I mean, of course reseller can take a profit. Let say 20-50%, but near 100%
Anyway, those inverter sell like hot cake and Lux can't produce fast enough for the demand from Sig Solar, Current Connect and others.
So, this canadian solar installer told me that the delivery date is march. It's hard to resist, but I think I will wait few months to receive this 6kW inverter at really good price.
I have been looking at the lux inverters recently and depending on what you are looking for I would think the lux LXP6K would be superior to the EG4 6000XP based on the spec sheet since they are hybrids vs the EG4 with is an off grid. The lux has the capability of grid monitoring with current transformers or an energy meter. I don't have any experience with either of them.
Someone from signature solar mentioned firmware improvements in the EG4. I think if he could list them, we could make a better informed decision. I assume some of the firmware updates was to support the EG4 battery.
Someone from signature solar mentioned firmware improvements in the EG4. I think if he could list them, we could make a better informed decision. I assume some of the firmware updates was to support the EG4 battery.
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Smittybells
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Here in Canada we get the support, and the warranty, I think it's just a great deal
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I've just been told by lux power the 2 units are the same, brand differences only. I hope this is right. I'll also pay more no problem for support based In canada, and warranty in canada.Yeah, but those hands seem really cash hangry.
They probably have multi million dollar mortgage to pay and prefer to give their cash to banks instead of manage their expenses correctly
Seriously, the 33% higher price for the EG4 6000XP in Canada is BS, but that brings us back to the excellent value of the LXP6K.
Still, I don't know if this Luxpower unit is exactly the same than the EG4 unit.
Detritalgeo
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Just had one delivered from SPS.. Can't install until I find a V1 Chargeverter.. Then have to sell the 6548..
I considered the other distributor but I think the warranty was only 2 years but the price was half.
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Seems like sps has the best deal going, and local ish support. Just ordered ours
zanydroid
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From a number of other threads, I know there is at least one outfit in Canada selling comparable LuxPower inverters to EG4
Detritalgeo
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Their support is not bad. Very slow to respond though.
Can someone help me understand where we can legally(meet code and pass inspection) use this in Canada/Ontario?
I see the LXP6K is UL 1741 and CSA C22.2#107.1:2016 Ed.4+U1
What use cases can you use this here?
From previous research, I thought UL9540(which requires paired batteries) is required for installing in a house/dwelling.
So I'm wondering where we can use this basically since it seems like a decent unit.
I see the LXP6K is UL 1741 and CSA C22.2#107.1:2016 Ed.4+U1
What use cases can you use this here?
From previous research, I thought UL9540(which requires paired batteries) is required for installing in a house/dwelling.
So I'm wondering where we can use this basically since it seems like a decent unit.
You can't. There is no battery ul9450 with the lxp6k (that I've found).
You cannot* install a battery in a dwelling unit under the 2021 CEC. *There is a notice on the ESA website that may allow you to under very strict guidelines.
Do yourself a favour and purchase the newest copy of the Knights CEC book and familiarize yourself with section 64.
Thanks. This is what I thought, but I'm trying to understand what can you use these for(legally) in Canada currently
There's a Canadian company selling them, listed as CSA approved, but Off-Grid. So wondering what's the point of selling them if you can't use them here... unless you just don't mind having an unapproved system.
Even if you had an off grid cabin in the woods without any grid at all, it's still not approved? or is it..
networkingdude
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Put the system in a shed and you are good to go.
The CEC and the ESA and building code do not distinguish "off grid". Well the ESA permitting is easier if you don't have a grid connection. The 10kw "limit" goes away. But other than that no difference for grid or offgrid.
If your system is more than 50v you require permits and must meet the CEC code. With the price of building and land in Ontario...do you really want to be in a position if you have a fire or worse and are denied coverage by your insurance?
When applying for insurance on my cabin in the woods, the co-operators asked for the ESA inspection report, engineering documents and my building permits. And that was in the 2018 code.
Thanks. I'm just trying to figure out why someone would buy this in Canada when it seems like you can't really use it legally, except for maybe putting it in an uninhabited out building, with heated batteries or something.
zanydroid
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Not everyone cares to be 100% legal.
Potentially there are legacy code compliant installs where this qualifies as a like for like repair replacement
Fair enough. My small system is technically not legal either but it’s quite small and more for backup emergency power at this point. This LXP6K just seems very attractive in terms of features for the price but I’m trying to figure out what people will be using them for when we have such strict rules here(I think a few fellow Canadians have bought them)
