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EP Cube Review

I can say it's not something that ever interested me. I seem to recall it was pricey, plus the one video I saw on it said you had to take a few hours worth of training in order to install/commission it. Yeah, no thank you.

The only thing I could see you doing with it is comparing it to the other stackable system you reviewed a while ago.
 
Zapper77 said:
It's above the DIY price point. Seems like a waste of time for your channel, assuming your demographics are DIY.
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Diy price point does not exist. I've had people say "don't cover victron will, it's too expensive" and I disagree. Solar generators are some of the most expensive systems around and going by volume of sales, extremely popular in the diy community. Why is that?
 
Adam De Lay said:
I can say it's not something that ever interested me. I seem to recall it was pricey, plus the one video I saw on it said you had to take a few hours worth of training in order to install/commission it. Yeah, no thank you.

The only thing I could see you doing with it is comparing it to the other stackable system you reviewed a while ago.
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I'm thinking it compares to Tesla power wall and I want to cover all of those types of systems. Already covered the hybrid systems. There will be many stackable whole home systems like power wall and ep cube in the future. I'm going to cover them all
 
I think as big as this site is there are many people that come here to learn. My physical limitations prevent me from being DYI for this project but educating myself prevents me from being taken advantage of. My background is electric and hvac so not a complete noob.

One of the things I would like to see is long term testing. Set something up go through the install and then every month/6 months revisit it and update. If I'm dropping a bunch of money into something I want to know it's going to last longer than 5 years!
 
Adam De Lay said:
I can say it's not something that ever interested me. I seem to recall it was pricey, plus the one video I saw on it said you had to take a few hours worth of training in order to install/commission it. Yeah, no thank you.

The only thing I could see you doing with it is comparing it to the other stackable system you reviewed a while ago.
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At the recent solar and CES conferences, stackable grid tie hybrid systems were everywhere.
 
Partimewages said:
I think as big as this site is there are many people that come here to learn. My physical limitations prevent me from being DYI for this project but educating myself prevents me from being taken advantage of. My background is electric and hvac so not a complete noob.

One of the things I would like to see is long term testing. Set something up go through the install and then every month/6 months revisit it and update. If I'm dropping a bunch of money into something I want to know it's going to last longer than 5 years!
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Absolutely. Running a few megawatt hours through a system is bare minimum. Usually the problems these days are not hardware related, but software. So to see what issues are encountered after five years is the best type of review.
 
Will Prowse said:
Diy price point does not exist. I've had people say "don't cover victron will, it's too expensive" and I disagree. Solar generators are some of the most expensive systems around and going by volume of sales, extremely popular in the diy community. Why is that?
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"Solar Generators" have portability and most require zero planning/setup, just run a few extension cords.

EP Cube isn't portable, but it does provide a clean install.

For Victron...they make a durable product.
 
Will Prowse said:
Diy price point does not exist. I've had people say "don't cover victron will, it's too expensive" and I disagree. Solar generators are some of the most expensive systems around and going by volume of sales, extremely popular in the diy community. Why is that?
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Can't agree with that. There is a comfort range for DIY. Yes, some stuff is at the high end, but this type of battery won't fit 99% of DIYers.
 
Adam De Lay said:
Do you think that's because of ease of install and expandability or because they look nice?
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I think it mainly comes down to code compliance and manufacturing capacity. I did see it at intersolar and watched average Joe's video on it, does look very easy to install.
 
This might be a suggestion out of my own ignorance, but: I think one thing that still confuses me sometimes is that some battery systems also seem to come with/are required to use their proprietary inverter as well? I could be wrong but based off talking to installers, it sounded like for using something like a Tesla PowerWall, you needed the Tesla inverter/gateway.

If you ever did a head to head or comparison, it'd be great to know what "PowerWall-like" storage systems support being hooked up to any generic inverter. Maybe Tesla is/was the exception (or my installer didn't understand my question).
 
Tulex said:
Can't agree with that. There is a comfort range for DIY. Yes, some stuff is at the high end, but this type of battery won't fit 99% of DIYers.
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Ok let's not call it diy then. There are going to be tons of these systems coming to market that are code compliant in every state and I'm going to review them all. You can install it yourself or not.

I personally would rather have an 18K and power pro, but many people in America don't. I want to cover every single solar system out there. Except for grid tie micro inverters lol those are pretty boring
 
Zapper77 said:
"Solar Generators" have portability and most require zero planning/setup, just run a few extension cords.

EP Cube isn't portable, but it does provide a clean install.

For Victron...they make a durable product.
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But I've had people call me insensitive for recommending victron and other more expensive off-grid products. Where do you draw the line?
 
Alright this thread is arguing what diy is and price point. That's the not point of this post. Is there testing of ep Cube and other similar stackable and code compliant systems that you guys want me to test. I'm not going to argue what constitutes cheap or expensive. I test products and do not care about price. Whether it's cheap or expensive I test everything
 
Will Prowse said:
Ok let's not call it diy then. There are going to be tons of these systems coming to market that are code compliant in every state and I'm going to review them all. You can install it yourself or not.

I personally would rather have an 18K and power pro, but many people in America don't. I want to cover every single solar system out there. Except for grid tie micro inverters lol those are pretty boring
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I don't have an issue with you reviewing it, the wider the range you cover the better. Info is always good.
 
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