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EcoFlow Delta Pro - FIVE Units Down. Something's awry here...

Yeah thats good voltage... the mppt could have been faulty. I'm curious are you getting any fault codes? Any symptoms besides the magic smoke? I've been there too.
Yes, I suppose so since it scared the hell out of my wife and I coming home to the basement full of smoke and got me in the doghouse with this solar project with the wife thinking I messed something up. LOL. No fault codes ever. No symptoms at all besides the smoke and incredibly awful burning electronics smell. Ecoflow has sent me a shipping label to send this back and has offered to send me a refurbished unit. My question to them which I think is pretty reasonable. How can you assure me the refurbished one won't burn my house down or catch fire? They said they do "rigorous" testing. I said, well didn't you do rigurous testing with the new unit that just burned up.... more to come. I guess I'll be without an ecoflow for a few weeks. I have another one as part of my system but I've turned it off for safety purposes right now. Super paranoid.
 
Hey Scott, sorry I have been super busy. Well, EcoFlow did eventually make things right for me. Currently, I am running with good results. However, I do have a small worrisome issue that just started happening and then went away, so I'm waiting to see if it manifests itself again. The SHP (Smart Home Power) starts clicking for some reason. I don't receive any error messages, and everything appears to be functioning properly. I'm unsure what the issue could be as it has only happened twice that I know of. It's as if one of the relays is continuously tripping, but there are no error indications and everything is working fine.

I just bought an EG4 3kW Off-Grid Inverter and Battery so I'm going to try and figure out how to marry them to the ECOFLOW SHP. That way make better use of my solar array via EG4 instead of the Delta Pros and also store the extra power on super sunny productive days!

best wishes,

-Dan
As far as I understand the SHP is only compatible with the EcoFlow Delta Pro. If you figure out a way to use it with anything else, that would be great, although after my own experience with EcoFlow products and seeing so many other people with issues with them,I bailed on EcoFlow products last summer and sold all my EcoFlow stuff on Ebay except the Wave 2 heat pump ;). They just don't seem to be able to get their ducks in a row when it comes to their firmware/software. It looks great and runs fine for a period of time, but there were always some issues that were promised to be fixed "in the next firmware release", but it seems to be a never ending hamster wheel.
 
As far as I understand the SHP is only compatible with the EcoFlow Delta Pro. If you figure out a way to use it with anything else, that would be great, although after my own experience with EcoFlow products and seeing so many other people with issues with them,I bailed on EcoFlow products last summer and sold all my EcoFlow stuff on Ebay except the Wave 2 heat pump ;). They just don't seem to be able to get their ducks in a row when it comes to their firmware/software. It looks great and runs fine for a period of time, but there were always some issues that were promised to be fixed "in the next firmware release", but it seems to be a never ending hamster wheel.
I do have it connected to the SHP but I also already also have a connection outside the house for my generator should all hell break loose. I haven't completely abandoned them but I have been working on my own DIY setup recently to include a victron 250/100 mppt as well as two 48v batteries.
 
Yes, I suppose so since it scared the hell out of my wife and I coming home to the basement full of smoke and got me in the doghouse with this solar project with the wife thinking I messed something up. LOL. No fault codes ever. No symptoms at all besides the smoke and incredibly awful burning electronics smell. Ecoflow has sent me a shipping label to send this back and has offered to send me a refurbished unit. My question to them which I think is pretty reasonable. How can you assure me the refurbished one won't burn my house down or catch fire? They said they do "rigorous" testing. I said, well didn't you do rigurous testing with the new unit that just burned up.... more to come. I guess I'll be without an ecoflow for a few weeks. I have another one as part of my system but I've turned it off for safety purposes right now. Super paranoid.
Yeah this happend to me as well.
I'm actually transitioning to 18kpv as source power and the SHP as critical load panel. So I know your situation. The system has its kinks which make it a pain to work with at times.
 
Yeah this happend to me as well.
I'm actually transitioning to 18kpv as source power and the SHP as critical load panel. So I know your situation. The system has its kinks which make it a pain to work with at times.
Your ecoflow had the smoke/burning issue too? Also, since I'm in the process of transitioning off the ecoflow stuff, I have the Victron 250/100 and want to ensure I am not going to trigger any potential issues. It looks like I can put all 4 of my Renogy 550w panels in series since they are 49.7v each which would be 200v total (approx). Before I go and even consider it, does that sound acceptable?
 
Your ecoflow had the smoke/burning issue too? Also, since I'm in the process of transitioning off the ecoflow stuff, I have the Victron 250/100 and want to ensure I am not going to trigger any potential issues. It looks like I can put all 4 of my Renogy 550w panels in series since they are 49.7v each which would be 200v total (approx). Before I go and even consider it, does that sound acceptable?
Yeah but it was my fault voltage spike... weather was colder than expected that year. As for the other system look at the spec sheet. I'm assuming it's 200vdc at 100Amp max?
 
Did some quick poking around...

What is the max wattage for the Victron 250 100?
According to the manual the SS 250/100 CC has a nominal max wattage of 5800w and if more PV power is connected, the controller will limit input power.

Victron link
 
EcoFlow Delta Pro - Reliable, Trustworthy?

I posted this is the EcoFlow FB group with minimal constructive input, so I'm turning to the veterans here.

TLDR: I’ve now gone had three EcoFlow Delta Pro units go down (overload errors), all within weeks of entirely normal use (two were not even providing output power when they went down). Wanting feedback os to 1.) Whether these are early unit issues that might have been remedied 2.) Whether there might be something I’m not doing or could be doing, 3.) Whether perhaps I should try to bail on EcoFlow.

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I tried make this short, but the story is a bit sordid. I’d like to gather opinions as to what I could do and what I might be doing wrong.

I went all in as a kickstarter backer, picking up 2 x Delta Pro’s, 4 extra batteries, 1 x Smart Generator, 2 x Smart Home Panel (for my RV and my Home), Double voltage hub, 2 x portable 400W solar panels, etc. I wanted to be able to travel with 1 x DP plus 2 batteries (or more) and move between home and RV as needed in the event our power outages.

Within a month of use both of the Delta Pro’s have gone down with overload errors, and EcoFlow has replaced both.

— First unit was sitting at home, plugged in to a wall outlet (resting at 100% charge), no load on it (I was preparing to start integrating to my home breaker box). It popped the breaker in that room and then was deemed in need of replacement. (An overload error)
— Second Unit had the magic smoke issue with Overload Error 105. Sent that one back.

<Crazy debacle trying to get replacement - the post I put on FB previously was deleted by a mod there (CYA) - as one of the returned unit was sent BACK to me, so I had to return that one a second time.>


— Now… one of the replacement units has succumbed to overload error 105 and after an attempt at a long-press reset (firmware is up to date), it won’t stay on, but reverts to standby. This is, from what I understand not fixable. I contacted Customer service <last weekend - see PS update, new unit on the way> - they know me well.

(Also, one of the remotes simply stopped working, and they sent a replacement, no questions asked.)


So, I’ve now had 3 EcoFlow Delta Pro’s go down, popping breakers in my home and producing white smoke. There seems to be no distinct use pattern to the issues as far as I can tell. First one was inside (air conditioned) with zero output. Second (White smoke) was in the RV on a cool morning, no heavy load - it just started smoking. Third was in the RV at maybe 85-90˚F running a ~200W load (fridge and overhead lights) and I turned on my A/C (which requires about 1400W), a scenario I’d gone through dozens and dozens of times without issue. (I always switch the A/C stepwise to minimize power surges to the extent possible.) I’m using the 30A output of course in the RV.

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I want to be able to be off-grid and ensure my dogs are safe in my RV (with air conditioning; I will be using a GPS based pet monitoring system) for short periods of time (<2hr), but I’m concerned that:
-I don’t have a reliable system in the EcoFlow Delta Pros. They simply keep falling prey to irreparable error
-The white smoke issue is a scary one, as there could be a fire hazard. Loss of air conditioning with a fire at the same time does not excite me.





When this second unit went down, I was on the road and needed to cut my trip short, as the off-grid form factor was no longer a possibility (b/c I didn’t have a backup unit, rendering my smart batteries essentially useless)


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Are these issues being addressed, i.e., are the units coming out now having less of these errors?…
Am I just terribly unlucky here?
Should I perhaps try to sell my system? (I don’t want to sell someone something that doesn’t work, of course.)
It’s great that EcoFlow does indeed sent out replacement units as they should, but concerning that this seems to be par for the course, so to speak.




I’d welcome your thoughts…


-Scott


P.S. Three days after messaging support about the 3rd unit to go down, they simply sent me a new unit without any correspondence and then sent me a message a couple days later.
Sounds like the Smart Home Panel is the problem to me. Have you noticed the complete redesign of the SHP with the SHP2.

I had 2 Delta Pros, 4 xtra batteries, and the smart home panel (first one), the SHP was defective and fried one of DP’s, it took a month to replace the DP but ECOFLOW wouldn’t admit that the problem was the SHP. So with that philosophy on what was wrong they continued to say the error was on the DP side and the same thing happened again and they had to replace both DP’s the second time. That took 2 months. Then I refused to connect the DP’s to the SHP because I knew it would happen again but they insisted on connecting everything and running a wiring test. It passed the wiring test but fried a board in one of the DP’s again. They finally admitted the SHP was a problem. They replaced one more DP after 6 weeks of back and forth. I had to pay an electrician to disconnect the SHP, they told me to send them a copy of the bill. They did send me a new SHP (took 6 weeks) and never reimbursed me for the electrical work. I’m done with them. I sold everything except for one DP that I use as a mobile solar generator not on my house. I now have a Sol-Ark system and I’m using grid as backup 24/7. Yes more money but the real deal. Horrible customer service at ECOFLOW… Sol-Ark tech support 👍🏻👍🏻
 
Sounds like the Smart Home Panel is the problem to me. Have you noticed the complete redesign of the SHP with the SHP2.

I had 2 Delta Pros, 4 xtra batteries, and the smart home panel (first one), the SHP was defective and fried one of DP’s, it took a month to replace the DP but ECOFLOW wouldn’t admit that the problem was the SHP. So with that philosophy on what was wrong they continued to say the error was on the DP side and the same thing happened again and they had to replace both DP’s the second time. That took 2 months. Then I refused to connect the DP’s to the SHP because I knew it would happen again but they insisted on connecting everything and running a wiring test. It passed the wiring test but fried a board in one of the DP’s again. They finally admitted the SHP was a problem. They replaced one more DP after 6 weeks of back and forth. I had to pay an electrician to disconnect the SHP, they told me to send them a copy of the bill. They did send me a new SHP (took 6 weeks) and never reimbursed me for the electrical work. I’m done with them. I sold everything except for one DP that I use as a mobile solar generator not on my house. I now have a Sol-Ark system and I’m using grid as backup 24/7. Yes more money but the real deal. Horrible customer service at ECOFLOW… Sol-Ark tech support 👍🏻👍🏻
Honestly, I had not considered the SHP to be an issue --- have never seen any errors with it other than circuit 1 kept disconnecting/erroring and it wasn't seated 100% --- fixed that. So you're saying even though the SHP wasn't charging my DP's, it could be the issue? Sorry, just want to better understand what on earth is going on.
 
Honestly, I had not considered the SHP to be an issue --- have never seen any errors with it other than circuit 1 kept disconnecting/erroring and it wasn't seated 100% --- fixed that. So you're saying even though the SHP wasn't charging my DP's, it could be the issue? Sorry, just want to better understand what on earth is going on.
Like i stated in my post the panel passed the wiring test every time. but when I would try to switch to battery power "pop" thats what I would here and then another DP would go down. They tried to blame my loads but that wasn't the issue and I proved that to them before they would admit the panel had an issue
 
Like i stated in my post the panel passed the wiring test every time. but when I would try to switch to battery power "pop" thats what I would here and then another DP would go down. They tried to blame my loads but that wasn't the issue and I proved that to them before they would admit the panel had an issue
Roger that... thank you. I just wanted to confirm what I was reading. Appreciate the heads up. Why do you think more people aren't reporting all of these issues and all these significant youtube influencers are supporting / supporting and advocating for people to use ecoflow products knowing they have all these issues?
 
Roger that... thank you. I just wanted to confirm what I was reading. Appreciate the heads up. Why do you think more people aren't reporting all of these issues and all these significant youtube influencers are supporting / supporting and advocating for people to use ecoflow products knowing they have all these issues?
I think its a case of a company growing faster than they are ready for... I think that the delta pro is a good product but they are trying to add too many new products without truly working out the bugs. Quality control could be the true problem. Several people may get a SHP with no issues and then a lemon. My system worked on 8 circuits of my house for about 6 months with no problems. When you see a bunch of firmware updates on any product that usually means they didn't vet their products they way they should have.... and you shouldn't be coming out with more when you aren't servicing what got you to where your are already. They're not the only company that has these issues. Partially I blame the hype society we live in today. Companies feel compelled to keep coming out with new things to keep the publics attention. More clicks, more money. Not necessarily more quality
 
I think its a case of a company growing faster than they are ready for... I think that the delta pro is a good product but they are trying to add too many new products without truly working out the bugs. Quality control could be the true problem. Several people may get a SHP with no issues and then a lemon. My system worked on 8 circuits of my house for about 6 months with no problems. When you see a bunch of firmware updates on any product that usually means they didn't vet their products they way they should have.... and you shouldn't be coming out with more when you aren't servicing what got you to where your are already. They're not the only company that has these issues. Partially I blame the hype society we live in today. Companies feel compelled to keep coming out with new things to keep the publics attention. More clicks, more money. Not necessarily more quality
All great and valid points. But why in the world would the big YouTube influencers put their reputation on the line for a company with these kind of practices? Or is it more important for them to be posting up videos about the newest shiny objects and forget about support, firmware issues and such? Just trying to understand better. Thank you!
 
All great and valid points. But why in the world would the big YouTube influencers put their reputation on the line for a company with these kind of practices? Or is it more important for them to be posting up videos about the newest shiny objects and forget about support, firmware issues and such? Just trying to understand better. Thank you!

Most of the YouTube reviews only test the products briefly for a day or two. They don’t use them daily for months on end so they never experience major flaws.
 
Most of the YouTube reviews only test the products briefly for a day or two. They don’t use them daily for months on end so they never experience major flaws.
Understood but one would think that people (me included) look for them to test if they endorsing products like ecoflow and follow up on issues, not just testing shiny objects for a day or two. Is that not the case? I mean, they are getting a lot of free equipment from these companies and endorsing them with limited testing (day or two) I would think puts them in a weird position. This is especially true when, in some cases, they've endorsed products with, what could be, significant safety issue(s) such as what we're discussing with smoke, burning electrical stuff, etc.
 
Most of the YouTube reviews only test the products briefly for a day or two. They don’t use them daily for months on end so they never experience major flaws.
I used mine for months of daily cycling without issue. Running loads for time of use in San Diego. I sold that house though. Still have all five units working except charge circuit on one is fried. Everything else still working
 
I used mine for months of daily cycling without issue. Running loads for time of use in San Diego. I sold that house though. Still have all five units working except charge circuit on one is fried. Everything else still working
Will, did you test the delta pro with the smart home panel or without? Maybe, as someone has mentioned in this thread, the SHP is the culprit? I'm just trying to get to the bottom of why I came home to a basement full of smoke with burnt electrical equipment (you can tell that smell) to ensure this doesn't happen to anyone else (safety first).
 
Will, did you test the delta pro with the smart home panel or without? Maybe, as someone has mentioned in this thread, the SHP is the culprit? I'm just trying to get to the bottom of why I came home to a basement full of smoke with burnt electrical equipment (you can tell that smell) to ensure this doesn't happen to anyone else (safety first).
Without, only double voltage hub and I used a timer switch to charge it at off-peak hours

And yeah that's awful! Might need to pull from my recommendation list. I'm going to scan the forum today for other issues like this
 
Without, only double voltage hub and I used a timer switch to charge it at off-peak hours
Roger that. Thank you for chiming in. Very helpful. BTW, I have my ecoflow delta pro (I have 5 of them --- 3 DP's and 2 EB's) and am sending this unit back and they have told me they will send me a refurbished one after they've done their analysis. Seems like they are standing behind their product which is a good thing but still doesn't get to root cause analysis....
 
Roger that. Thank you for chiming in. Very helpful. BTW, I have my ecoflow delta pro (I have 5 of them --- 3 DP's and 2 EB's) and am sending this unit back and they have told me they will send me a refurbished one after they've done their analysis. Seems like they are standing behind their product which is a good thing but still doesn't get to root cause analysis....
Good to know. And I agree
 
Without, only double voltage hub and I used a timer switch to charge it at off-peak hours

And yeah that's awful! Might need to pull from my recommendation list. I'm going to scan the forum today for other issues like this
Will, I posted up on the FB forum (Delta Pro forum) and people are coming out of the woodwork stating they too had the same issue (burning , smoking). I was hoping that would NOT be the case.
 

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