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Exactly, but swap it out with what? Is there comparable manufacture’s prop that fits? There are on line calculators that you input data that gets you very close, if not good enough. Perhaps a prop Manufacturer like Solas should be jumping on this. I’ve had excellent success with those on Suzuki, Yamaha and Mercury outboards. That being said, I’ve probably bought at least two props for each application before being satisfied with performance. Some manufacturers offer a limited exchange program. That’s freaking smart and awesome! I probably should get busy on eBay, I have at least 7 props for engines I don’t have anymore and don’t plan on ever getting.
How do i know.
I'm not a seller .
Just see what the prop use for connection and see who sell it .

The rest is try and error.

If i set a new engine and i need a new prop on my boat .
It gone cost me about 1000 euro or more just for a new one.
Normal it be test on a test bank with the old one and than with that a new prop is Select and than try.
 

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I am not suggesting that this is ideal, but maybe a way to move forward.

This company makes a 96 volt AC - DC charger.


So what you could do is use solar to charge a 48 volt battery - run the power through an inverter - and then power the 96 volt charger.

Here are a couple of their on line re-sellers.



 
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I would imagine if you run your 26kW motor at 3.5kW, which might be what your 5kW solar would give, you would travel at 4kts, giving you a free 30nm a day.
In my spare time I’ve been designing in 3D CAD a modular hull of prefab sections and each section to hold large battery packs(decided to stay in 50volt zone), each 70kwh. The smallest boat @ 44’LOA is multi-utility platform on the water and can fit three BESS modules all connected to a central BMU. So, these fully charge power packs can feed both the ac load panel… as well as the propulsion system when desired. Each 4’ hull module assembly added to the boat length will allow another 70kwh of stored energy. So, although the PV is small, storage is high. The banks can be charged twice as fast using shore connection but that’s cheating. The project’s goal is zero emission on the waterways.
 
What for brand .
My self looking for a hybrid systeem.

So i have look in to this systeem
So i can use the diesel engine to make power and charge the battery with it
But the systeem is on 48 volt .

This is the model my self looking for.

You can select Translate by Google Chrome if the website do not support it.


And full electric


And than


Or

Other hybride systeem
See by. FNM BLUE HYBRID SYSTEEM engine


You can always contact them its do sell to other country.
The ePropulsion looks cool but from what I can tell from their site, the outboard and battery is sold together.
 
The ePropulsion looks cool but from what I can tell from their site, the outboard and battery is sold together.
Not for the Navy and bigger series. They come with just a battery cable you can connect to pretty much any 48V battery. I have a Navy 6 and have it connected to 48V of Li-time
 
In my spare time I’ve been designing in 3D CAD a modular hull of prefab sections and each section to hold large battery packs(decided to stay in 50volt zone), each 70kwh. The smallest boat @ 44’LOA is multi-utility platform on the water and can fit three BESS modules all connected to a central BMU. So, these fully charge power packs can feed both the ac load panel… as well as the propulsion system when desired. Each 4’ hull module assembly added to the boat length will allow another 70kwh of stored energy. So, although the PV is small, storage is high. The banks can be charged twice as fast using shore connection but that’s cheating. The project’s goal is zero emission on the waterways.
Love the thought of an electric boat, but also love the thought of 20-foot-long-class boats that plane, so let me know when 100HP-ish electric jet modules are available...
 
Love the thought of an electric boat, but also love the thought of 20-foot-long-class boats that plane, so let me know when 100HP-ish electric jet modules are available...
They already are available. How thick is your wallet is more the question.
 
What is the motor model and for what kind of boat?
All this is interesting as Elco also sell 48V motor.
It’s something new my organization is working on, a low displacement zero emissions cabin cruiser with ample space for battery packs. Given the corrosive sea environment and the limited options for power conversion equipment made for it, I decided to stay at 50v zone for battery packs. I can push the envelope only so far and sometimes innovators have to be patient for the gear to become available and reliable. I know about the Elco 48v options and two might be enough, but only testing on the water will tell us.
 
It’s something new my organization is working on, a low displacement zero emissions cabin cruiser with ample space for battery packs.
Awesome! Do you share some details somewhere?
On my side, the project start with a 38 ft Beneteau sailboat and a Motenergy ME1507 motor (similar to Zero motorcycle motors).
I think I will try 45V nominal (12S NMC) or 51V nominal (16S LFP) and keep the option to upgrade to 72 or 96V because, as you said, ''only testing on the water will tell us''
 
Electric car parts.com has both a 96v mppt and a battery charger listed on their website.

For the bms - consider Batrium- it can handle a high number of cells in series.

I have thought about doing exactly what you are doing - I only have two issues 1. $$$ 2. Boats rock and my stomach doesn’t- I would likely be sea sick a lot.😩
 
Awesome! Do you share some details somewhere?
On my side, the project start with a 38 ft Beneteau sailboat and a Motenergy ME1507 motor (similar to Zero motorcycle motors).
I think I will try 45V nominal (12S NMC) or 51V nominal (16S LFP) and keep the option to upgrade to 72 or 96V because, as you said, ''only testing on the water will tell us''
So you’re a sailor, doing a retrofit. Great! I have too long of a history working on boats to imagine any possibility of customizing pre-existing. I’m starting totally from scratch, even patenting a composite hull material to circumvent the need for one-off molds and brittle, glass/resin or below waterline cavities, thru hulls… that tend to let water in either slowing or catastrophically. Also has to be ADA compliant. Might sound ambitious but to me it’s just another puzzle to solve.
 
To answer your question, I am working on a website now to show this project to the world and might start a new thread here when the time is right since it is an offgrid solar project and DIY.
 
Electric car parts.com has both a 96v mppt and a battery charger listed on their website.

For the bms - consider Batrium- it can handle a high number of cells in series.

I have thought about doing exactly what you are doing - I only have two issues 1. $$$ 2. Boats rock and my stomach doesn’t- I would likely be sea sick a lot.😩
A big enough flat bottom or catamaran might be your answer. They don’t rock like traditional hulls.
 
Years ago I planned a 90 volt system for my family cottage because I wanted to avoid too much electronics and I was comfortably with 90 volt from all the electrical equipment I worked on.

I think the way stuff is going eventually this will be more common.

A new fractional HP 90 DC brush type motor, the type I used..
They were very cheap in the 90s..
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Also
The name ELCO reminds me of ELTO....
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Electric car parts.com has both a 96v mppt and a battery charger listed on their website.

For the bms - consider Batrium- it can handle a high number of cells in series.

I have thought about doing exactly what you are doing - I only have two issues 1. $$$ 2. Boats rock and my stomach doesn’t- I would likely be sea sick a lot.😩
Hull type does make a big difference as to rocking. I’ve found that the thing that helps with nausea better dramamine or prescription meds is ginger root. Gnaw on some slices or buy candy like Gin Gins. Comes in lots of flavors. It doesn’t leave your mind in a fog like meds do and I think it works better. The money part I can’t help you with since all boats are a hole in the water which you pour money into😂
 
A big enough flat bottom or catamaran might be your answer. They don’t rock like traditional hulls.
Absolutely does the bottom of a mono hull make a difference on stability. My boat was 43’ long and was much more stable than some others that were bigger and heavier like trawlers. There were numerous times when it was tied up on the same dock with yachts, all receiving the same broadside waves. When you looked down the row of boats it was easy to see how much more stable it was. Would I take it out in heavy seas with that hull design? Hell no! That hull was more for inland waters. It had a sharp bow that reasonably quickly transitioned into a very shallow V or almost a flat bottom. My personal belief is the most efficient hull type for electric propulsion is a displacement hull catamaran ( think two canoes spaced apart). My boat was planning hull and I usually had it just on stable plane for best efficiency but that’s not what a eco electric boat needs. IMG_0087.jpegIMG_0086.jpeg
 
ABB makes some DC based marine stuff for larger setups. I think that they are ~ 1 000 volts though.
Kiruna K 1050E.
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The 1050 volt thyristor converter in this machine was a marine drive from a boat.
I can't tell you much about its original intended use but all the parts were made to resist moister and dirt ( may have been for bow thrusters ??)
Its was a very old piece of analog electronics from the ASEA days but very reliable!
 
Hull type does make a big difference as to rocking. I’ve found that the thing that helps with nausea better dramamine or prescription meds is ginger root. Gnaw on some slices or buy candy like Gin Gins. Comes in lots of flavors. It doesn’t leave your mind in a fog like meds do and I think it works better. The money part I can’t help you with since all boats are a hole in the water which you pour money into😂
So true… which is why I’m designing a big hull that makes only a shallow hole. The yachting market is a big racket ripping of guys for a hundred years.
 
Years ago I planned a 90 volt system for my family cottage because I wanted to avoid too much electronics and I was comfortably with 90 volt from all the electrical equipment I worked on.

I think the way stuff is going eventually this will be more common.

A new fractional HP 90 DC brush type motor, the type I used..
They were very cheap in the 90s..
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Also
The name ELCO reminds me of ELTO....
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A thing of beauty….. the old outboard, not the old motor. New PMAC is the way to go.
 
Absolutely does the bottom of a mono hull make a difference on stability. My boat was 43’ long and was much more stable than some others that were bigger and heavier like trawlers. There were numerous times when it was tied up on the same dock with yachts, all receiving the same broadside waves. When you looked down the row of boats it was easy to see how much more stable it was. Would I take it out in heavy seas with that hull design? Hell no! That hull was more for inland waters. It had a sharp bow that reasonably quickly transitioned into a very shallow V or almost a flat bottom. My personal belief is the most efficient hull type for electric propulsion is a displacement hull catamaran ( think two canoes spaced apart). My boat was planning hull and I usually had it just on stable plane for best efficiency but that’s not what a eco electric boat needs. View attachment 227800View attachment 227801
You have the right idea, Sky. Also, by placing the majority of ballast (tanks, battery) inside the chine area the roll motion is less due to inertia. But in this 43’ motor yacht’s case most of the mass is right near centerline in the form of 2ton diesels…. so ignore what I just said about ballast and chew some ginger root.🫚
 

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