Another new hybrid inverter. Aims PIHY9600 660v pv input , touch screen, 15kw pv

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Such a great time for diy pv. Competition is heating up! Check this one out! $3600.

Hybrid Inverter Charger 9.6 kW Power Output 15 kW Solar Input Grid Tie & Battery Back Up

The NEW REVOLUTIONARY AIMS Power Hybrid Inverter, listed to UL standards, gives you total control of your power in one product! It combines solar power and battery backup into one complete, easy to use solution, that provides FREE power and independence from the grid. In addition, the AIMS Power...

www.aimscorp.net

 

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• Listed to UL 1741-SA I CSA 22.2 No.107-01 I UL1998 I UL1699B
• Stackable (Max 6)
• Direct 3 string PV input
• IP65 NEMA4X rated for outdoor installation
• 10 year warranty
• Customizable DC input voltage for various battery types including lithium and lead
• Free USA based tech support
• Wide programmable voltage input range
• Generator input for backup 240VAC
• Wide PV input voltage range
• Load sharing
• Isolated emergency backup output for defined loads
• Configurable charge and load times based on local utility recommendations
• Loaded with safety features
• Large 5-inch color LCD
• RS485, CAN, Wi-Fi, 4G
• Extremely efficient
• FCC Part 15 Class B

 

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manual

https://www.aimscorp.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/AIMS-Power-Hybrid-071223.pdf

 

[ed6269]

whats the idle consumption?

 

[1201]

whats the idle consumption?

i wasnt able to locate that in the specs.

one thing the specs show is a switching time of <10ms which if true would be fantastic

 

[42OhmsPA]

Seems like a nice unit for the price and features. Looks like shipping should be under $100 for the continental US.
My favorite part is the name / naming convention, I bet @timselectric agrees ?.
I still wouldn't trade my SRNE for it.

 

[timselectric]

Seems like a nice unit for the price and features. Looks like shipping should be under $100 for the continental US.
My favorite part is the name / naming convention, I bet @timselectric agrees ?.
I still wouldn't trade my SRNE for it.

I'm not sure what the name is.
I do see where it says "hybrid" but talks about off grid.
Not sure if it's actually a hybrid.

 

[sunsurfer]

• 10 year warranty

Good luck with that. Aims has a bad reputation for horrible support.

 

[1201]

Seems like a nice unit for the price and features. Looks like shipping should be under $100 for the continental US.
My favorite part is the name / naming convention, I bet @timselectric agrees ?.
I still wouldn't trade my SRNE for it.

I don't think there's any real competition for the srne right now. 10kw split phase for 1400 is untouchable.

This one might compete with eg4. I just don't know yet if it's competing with the 6000xp or the 12kw 18kpv.

It can export to the grid which 6000xp can't do, but can it ac couple?

I'm not sure what the name is.
I do see where it says "hybrid" but talks about off grid.
Not sure if it's actually a hybrid.

Pihy9600

 

[1201]

Good luck with that. Aims has a bad reputation for horrible support.

Are there any low cost inverter suppliers that actually stand behind their product?

 

[timselectric]

Are there any low cost inverter suppliers that actually stand behind their product?

Not really. At least not consistently.
I don't care about warranty, or customer support.
My system has proven to be reliable. And if I ever do have a problem. $600 replacement, puts me back in business. Without any arguing or red tape.
And zero downtime.

 

[Jacob_]

I don't think there's any real competition for the srne right now. 10kw split phase for 1400 is untouchable.

Best believe ?

 

[Lt.Dan]

This looks super similar to the Deye 8k i have, inside the wiring cabinet part.

 

[1201]

This looks super similar to the Deye 8k i have, inside the wiring cabinet part.

I'll have to take a look at that. Btw, just checked cec and they are listed!

Edit-

 

[AntronX]

Surprised no one noticed this part:

 

[42OhmsPA]

Surprised no one noticed this part:

View attachment 176478

That explains the 50a max charge / discharge.

 

[Solar Guppy]

Just another closed communications high voltage inverter.

From the manual:

The PIHY inverters are compatible with AIMS
Power lithium batteries only (Part #s:
LFP230V96A-M & LFP230V96A-S) and the
lithium charge default setting is for the AIMS
Power batteries. Also compatible with all lead
acid battery types (gel, AGM, open). If you
prefer to use a different lithium battery you
MUST contact AIMS Power tech support to
check compatibility and charging programming.
No exceptions.

BYW, , the Solis S6 has full listing including UL9540 and more power options for similar price range

 

[1201]

Just another closed communications high voltage inverter.

From the manual:

The PIHY inverters are compatible with AIMS
Power lithium batteries only (Part #s:
LFP230V96A-M & LFP230V96A-S) and the
lithium charge default setting is for the AIMS
Power batteries. Also compatible with all lead
acid battery types (gel, AGM, open). If you
prefer to use a different lithium battery you
MUST contact AIMS Power tech support to
check compatibility and charging programming.
No exceptions.

BYW, , the Solis S6 has full listing including UL9540 and more power options for similar price range

Curious, Will the Solis work with lead acid and agm?

 

[Solar Guppy]

Curious, Will the Solis work with lead acid and agm?

No on the S6

Trying to use agm / lead acid in long series strings is problematic at best. Also , for 9600 watts your looking at ~240V battery minimum, 80V is just a wake up voltage likely.

 

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No on the S6

Trying to use agm / lead acid in long series strings is problematic at best. Also , for 9600 watts your looking at ~240V battery minimum, 80V is just a wake up voltage likely.

The thought is if it will work with lead acid then it should work in open loop with diy lifepo4 packs

 

[Solar Guppy]

The thought is if it will work with lead acid then it should work in open loop with diy lifepo4 packs

The issue with open loop LFP is the BMS is crazy expensive when you start getting to cell counts over 24.

Stacking BMS will end in blowing up if one disconnects and the load pulls the remaining string batteries to ground ( load ) or max charge voltage ( charging ) leaving a large differential potential the BMS can not handle. This is why the 12V batteries limit to maximum of 4 ins series.

I've been 3 years now into a UL9540 HV system ( Solis BYD ) and while there are strong advantages the low current provide, DYI batteries for high voltage just are not affordable since there are only a couple of options on BMS and then it is similar cost to use full UL9540 solutions, like BYD , Pylontech and the like.

 

[OffGridForGood]

Surprised no one noticed this part:

View attachment 176478

So use an EV battery pack at 380vDC? problem solved??

The thought is if it will work with lead acid then it should work in open loop with diy lifepo4 packs

but use the EV battery instead of trying to DIY a high voltage pack from cells,

The issue with open loop LFP is the BMS is crazy expensive when you start getting to cell counts over 24.

Avoid this cost using 380v EV battery pack which has it's own BMS built in?

Stacking BMS will end in blowing up if one disconnects and the load pulls the remaining string batteries to ground ( load ) or max charge voltage ( charging ) leaving a large differential potential the BMS can not handle. This is why the 12V batteries limit to maximum of 4 ins series.

No stacking needed ? Parallel identical EV packs?

 

[OffGridForGood]

whats the idle consumption?

They claim 10 Watts (I would like to see that verified)

 

[bryansifsof44]

Standby consumption same as operating consumption??? Looked through manual and didn't see any info on operating.

 

[OffGridForGood]

Standby consumption same as operating consumption??? Looked through manual and didn't see any info on operating.

97% claimed efficiency - 3% loss on 9600W is 288 Watts