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Darfon Gro Watt GBLI 5001 Battery Pack- worth a punt?

Tad said:
Note: everyone's GBLI5001 battery will have different SOC'S.
Upon tinkering with the sp2000 settings in lead-acid mode I couldn't work out why why the sp2000 was still tripping out with error code 118 when charging it turns out that because of lead acid float charging the vbat setting low and high are better off as the same voltage and are better set to the optimum charging value of the battery CAPABILITY - the standard setting is 58 volts for both the settings but because of age and degradation I have changed mine to 56.5 volts (which is 100-percent soc for mine) now the float charging voltage is not active anymore and the sp2000 is no longer tripping out so it's all about the battery capability given its age and degradation ie it will not charge anymore than it can.
And likewise for discharging the vbat low and high settings I think the same principle applies ie my battery discharges to about 49 volts at 50% soc so the setting I have changed to is 49 volts for both vbat low and high to keep the sp-2000 controller from tripping out (Or over discharging)

I'm not sure if the same or similar principles apply for a standard GBLI5001 battery regarding the over charging and over discharging with its original BMS might be worth a few tweaks though if anyone has still got the original setup !
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In lead acid mode with original bms fitted still
Mine charged to 57.5v 100 percent
Stopped discharging at 47.1v at 40 percent but once stopped discharging voltage went back to 49.2v and now settled back at 49.4v
Charged 3.5kwh today and discharged 3.3kwh
Charged and Discharged much more than is lithium mode
 
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Supermans_1 said:
In lead acid mode with original bms fitted still
Mine charged to 57.5v 100 percent
Stopped discharging at 47.1v at 40 percent but once stopped discharging voltage went back to 49.2v and now settled back at 49.4v
Charged 3.5kwh today and discharged 3.3kwh
Charged and Discharged much more than is lithium mode
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That's great it's sounds like you've got a decent battery there .
All you need is another one connected in parallel for 7kwh capacity ?
 
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That's great it's sounds like you've got a decent battery there .
All you need is another one connected in parallel for 7kwh capacity ?
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Had to remove the bms and fit a aftermarket one as it kept shutting down
So fitted one today and gotta wait for the sun to charge now to see how well it works now
Oh and picked up another sp2000 and gbli battery today so gotta hook that up as well as I have 2 solar strings 1 is 1500w at the mo and one is 2500w so will have a charger and battery on each
 
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Здравейте, казвам се Милен, имам 4 бр gbli5001 + 2 бр sp2000, зареждам ги като съм пропуснал оригиналния BMS. Зареждам ги на 56 волта и ги разреждам на 47 волта SP 2000, не ги ползвам. Въпросът ми е мога ли да ги направя с BMS DALY
 
Hello, my name is Milen, I have 4 pcs gbli5001 + 2 pcs sp2000, I am charging them as I missed the original BMS. I charge them at 56 volts and discharge them at 47 volts SP 2000, I don't use them. My question is can I do them with BMS DALY
 
Thought the following might be useful.
Attached is the data sheet for the original CT clamp......however i later noticed it had already been posted in the
TOP 90-S10/SP4, AC Current Transformer, 90 Amp 0-90mA rms output, X = 1%


As for NTC. I found a 11Kohm resistor soldered to a cable works perfectly well.

I do have issues with the SP2000 and am also in need of the fully compatible software but will start a new thread for that.. .
 

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joshcliffejones said:
The issue i had with the CT reporting false numbers as i found out was due to the CT i was using. I have since bought a new CT with a rating of 100A:100mA which appears to read far closer to the real consumption, seems to be around 150W off still, but im happy with it until i can find a genuine Growatt CT :)

I will post a new dedicated thread once i have everything in place and in working order to share with the community and assist/inspire anyone who is interested in such a thing!
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Hi, Im in the same boat without a CT. I'm wondering which make and model you used and if you have improved the accuracy? Did you stick with LEM?
 
Tad said:
I reckon if we all chipped in and offered a reward to anyone that can unlock/fix these growatt GBL i500 1 BMS boards you never know we might just get a result I'll chip in £100 straight away no problem
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I can unlock these Darfon BMS boards.
Unlocked mine today.
It had the dreaded code 24 after a cell failed.
 
mike_hug said:
Can I ask how? I binned all my original BMS boards, so really just out of interest
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I have a programmer and the various firmwares for the different versions of these Darfon BMS boards.
Just a case of re flashing the firmware to reset.
Lots of these batteries have been binned needlessly.
 
Hiya all, glad to see this thread is still going strong, seems to be the best place for anyone tinkering with these packs. I got hold of one with the factory inverter but had no intention of using it so flogged for the price I paid for the whole set (result!) apparently it sat for at least a year in a garage before I got hold of it, and its sat for a further 6 months in my flat. Cracked it open today to embark on the rebuild, with some reletivly promising voltages on most cells, 2.6-2.7, and one sat on 2.2, likley the borked one which meant that the BMS was flashing out the error message. Ive carefully removed the BMS, not sure if its beond hope, Ive seen here that they can brick themselfs if cells drop too low? either way will be selling mine as untested on ebay if anyones interested. Will be looking to wire in a aftermarket bms and was wondering if anyone has any pointers. If I can charge all cells and they hold voltage is it best to retain the original pack voltage? Ive no other infrastructure other than a 1.6kw 12v inverter, but am looking to be able to charge off solar and discharge at least 1kw constant, and would like to minimise cost where possible. Any questions, pointers or conversation is welcome :)
 

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Bit of a belated update, but since I started this thread I've managed to finally get a new BMS installed.

To test whether my battery was worthy of spending out on a BMS for, I got a used Sofar ME3000SP from ebay and ran some charge/discharge cycles while monitoring the string voltages manually. It all remained remarkably well balanced considering how low the voltages were when I first opened the battery up! So that was enough to convince me to fork out for the BMS and continue with this battery.

After much deliberation and only after being advised against using a Seplos BMS by a UK importer (due to ongoing QC problems), I went for a JK BMS- the 2A active balancing was too good to pass up and I found this project on here by @uksa007 - https://diysolarforum.com/threads/j...support-goodwe-and-pylontech-batteries.48963/, which will allow the JK to communicate with my Sofar by spoofing that it's a Pylontech battery. The more I read about this BMS, the more glad I am that I went with it. I got the 200A version, which I know is way overkill for this battery, but I figured it will be having an easy life in this battery and if this doesn't work out, I can use it for whatever cells I replace it with in the future.

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I put the BMS's power button/ status LED in the place of the original LED (just had to drill it out to 12mm). I might well run the BMS comms through the original RJ45 connection on the side to keep everything neat.

I decided to stick a fuse in the positive line as I had one lying around and it seemed a double precaution and neat way to join the wires that used to run through the old BMS. I know there's a factory fuse on the negative line (anyone know its value? I haven't cut open the heatshrink). Interestingly, I've only put in a 30A fuse (nearest I had in stock) and it hasn't blown with the inverter's charge current at 40 A. Maybe due to it being a cheapy from ebay?

So I'm now running tests with functional BMS and inverter running in Default (lead acid) mode ahead of getting the BMS to inverter comms working. All seems to be working pretty well. Will report back once I have some solid capacity figures.

Last night I fully charged it (inverter stopped charging while the BMS was reporting 57.92V, which is a little under the 58.8 that the Boston Swing datasheet says is 100% SoC), then turned off the inverter but left the BMS on and this morning it was balanced down to 0.002 V and sitting perfectly stable!

Here's a shot of the JK BMS app's stats page after I've been running everything from the battery for half of the day:
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The max & min strings are always different, there doesn't seem to be any weaknesses displaying (yet!)

As an aside, I'm interested to know how it calculates the balance wire resistances. I cut the balance wires to suit & if you follow the numbers, S1 is shortest, going up to S7 and S8, then they get shorter again as strings 9-14 get closer to the BMS. How the heck does it figure this out automatically?!
 
DICE said:
Lots of these batteries have been binned needlessly.
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Was just thinking this as I was putting mine back together the other day. I actually pulled mine out of a scrap metal pile!
The battery enclosures are so nicely made as are all the internal components- the BMS definitely seems to be the weak point. If I worked at the company I'd be pithed off with the BMS EEs as they definitely let the rest of the package down.

As others have found, the Anderson can be a weak point too. I think they're better suited to applications where they are repeatedly disconnected/ reconnected as they are designed to wipe clean their own terminals with each disconnect/reconnect. With these batteries, that's not going to happen too often.
Following reading some other posts, I removed all of the copper links when adding my BMS balance wires and applied some MG Chem 847 conductive grease on all connection points to improve conductivity and reduce corrosion. I also added it to the Anderson connection pins.
 
Little off topic but someone should know... Can an SP-CT talk to more than 1 device? IE broadcast to 2 sp2000s or 1 sp2000 and another growatt product?

Thanks
 
mike_hug said:
From memory I think it's any of 1-4 and any of 5-8 are all joined. Otherwise I agree it's 1 & 2. I'll check
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hi guys

i am not clear on what colour wire to use for the c-clamp and the polarity on the SP2000 Sensor/NTC port

please advise

regards
 
Anyone knows the value of the fuse that is on the negative cable inside the battery package? I have to change it because is broken before the fuse itself but there is no value written above it

edit: in the battery specs sheet it says max charge and discharge current is 45A
 
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Another battery resurrected with a new BMS :)
Now the sp2000 is set to lead acid mode, let's see how much will charge and discharge
 

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Hi all,
Does it happen also with your cells and BMS, that after a completed discharge (ie no more power required from the inverter) the cells bounce from a lower to an higher voltage? From 3.26v to 3.46v, see attached image
 

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-C- said:
Bit of a belated update, but since I started this thread I've managed to finally get a new BMS installed.

To test whether my battery was worthy of spending out on a BMS for, I got a used Sofar ME3000SP from ebay and ran some charge/discharge cycles while monitoring the string voltages manually. It all remained remarkably well balanced considering how low the voltages were when I first opened the battery up! So that was enough to convince me to fork out for the BMS and continue with this battery.

After much deliberation and only after being advised against using a Seplos BMS by a UK importer (due to ongoing QC problems), I went for a JK BMS- the 2A active balancing was too good to pass up and I found this project on here by @uksa007 - https://diysolarforum.com/threads/j...support-goodwe-and-pylontech-batteries.48963/, which will allow the JK to communicate with my Sofar by spoofing that it's a Pylontech battery. The more I read about this BMS, the more glad I am that I went with it. I got the 200A version, which I know is way overkill for this battery, but I figured it will be having an easy life in this battery and if this doesn't work out, I can use it for whatever cells I replace it with in the future.

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I put the BMS's power button/ status LED in the place of the original LED (just had to drill it out to 12mm). I might well run the BMS comms through the original RJ45 connection on the side to keep everything neat.

I decided to stick a fuse in the positive line as I had one lying around and it seemed a double precaution and neat way to join the wires that used to run through the old BMS. I know there's a factory fuse on the negative line (anyone know its value? I haven't cut open the heatshrink). Interestingly, I've only put in a 30A fuse (nearest I had in stock) and it hasn't blown with the inverter's charge current at 40 A. Maybe due to it being a cheapy from ebay?

So I'm now running tests with functional BMS and inverter running in Default (lead acid) mode ahead of getting the BMS to inverter comms working. All seems to be working pretty well. Will report back once I have some solid capacity figures.

Last night I fully charged it (inverter stopped charging while the BMS was reporting 57.92V, which is a little under the 58.8 that the Boston Swing datasheet says is 100% SoC), then turned off the inverter but left the BMS on and this morning it was balanced down to 0.002 V and sitting perfectly stable!

Here's a shot of the JK BMS app's stats page after I've been running everything from the battery for half of the day:
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The max & min strings are always different, there doesn't seem to be any weaknesses displaying (yet!)

As an aside, I'm interested to know how it calculates the balance wire resistances. I cut the balance wires to suit & if you follow the numbers, S1 is shortest, going up to S7 and S8, then they get shorter again as strings 9-14 get closer to the BMS. How the heck does it figure this out automatically?!
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-C- said:
Bit of a belated update, but since I started this thread I've managed to finally get a new BMS installed.

To test whether my battery was worthy of spending out on a BMS for, I got a used Sofar ME3000SP from ebay and ran some charge/discharge cycles while monitoring the string voltages manually. It all remained remarkably well balanced considering how low the voltages were when I first opened the battery up! So that was enough to convince me to fork out for the BMS and continue with this battery.

After much deliberation and only after being advised against using a Seplos BMS by a UK importer (due to ongoing QC problems), I went for a JK BMS- the 2A active balancing was too good to pass up and I found this project on here by @uksa007 - https://diysolarforum.com/threads/j...support-goodwe-and-pylontech-batteries.48963/, which will allow the JK to communicate with my Sofar by spoofing that it's a Pylontech battery. The more I read about this BMS, the more glad I am that I went with it. I got the 200A version, which I know is way overkill for this battery, but I figured it will be having an easy life in this battery and if this doesn't work out, I can use it for whatever cells I replace it with in the future.

View attachment 152791

I put the BMS's power button/ status LED in the place of the original LED (just had to drill it out to 12mm). I might well run the BMS comms through the original RJ45 connection on the side to keep everything neat.

I decided to stick a fuse in the positive line as I had one lying around and it seemed a double precaution and neat way to join the wires that used to run through the old BMS. I know there's a factory fuse on the negative line (anyone know its value? I haven't cut open the heatshrink). Interestingly, I've only put in a 30A fuse (nearest I had in stock) and it hasn't blown with the inverter's charge current at 40 A. Maybe due to it being a cheapy from ebay?

So I'm now running tests with functional BMS and inverter running in Default (lead acid) mode ahead of getting the BMS to inverter comms working. All seems to be working pretty well. Will report back once I have some solid capacity figures.

Last night I fully charged it (inverter stopped charging while the BMS was reporting 57.92V, which is a little under the 58.8 that the Boston Swing datasheet says is 100% SoC), then turned off the inverter but left the BMS on and this morning it was balanced down to 0.002 V and sitting perfectly stable!

Here's a shot of the JK BMS app's stats page after I've been running everything from the battery for half of the day:
View attachment 152792
The max & min strings are always different, there doesn't seem to be any weaknesses displaying (yet!)

As an aside, I'm interested to know how it calculates the balance wire resistances. I cut the balance wires to suit & if you follow the numbers, S1 is shortest, going up to S7 and S8, then they get shorter again as strings 9-14 get closer to the BMS. How the heck does it figure this out automatically?!
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@-C-
contact me, i can do with your help on exactly what is needed for mine - i want my GBLI5001 growatt battery to be detected by my new 3kw Solis inverter basically.

regards
 
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