Bob B
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YesUseless comments.
NoYou spread misinformation in the middle of a pandemic.
Yes .....You are the reason the thread was renamed.I correct you and I am the troll?
YesUseless comments.
NoYou spread misinformation in the middle of a pandemic.
Yes .....You are the reason the thread was renamed.I correct you and I am the troll?
So you will need to explain the logistics of a single dr treating 8000 Covid patients.But that is enough fairy tale theater today.Yes
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Yes .....You are the reason the thread was renamed.
He works out of a tent ... You'll have to ask him how he has treated so many and save so many lives ...... He is a brilliant doctor who knows how clinical medicine works .... How many have you treated?So,edit you will need to explain the logistics of a single dr treating 8000 Covid patients.But that is enough fairy tale theater today.
Uh huh. So you say. But, you also just told me he recommends female hormones for Covid.He works out of a tent ... You'll have to ask him how he has treated so many and save so many lives ...... He is a brilliant doctor who knows how clinical medicine works .... How many have you treated?
The only thing we know for sure from your posts is that you can always fall back on your carnie dunk tank experience.Uh huh. So you say. But, you also just told me he recommends female hormones for Covid.
Just as clever as your misinformation posts. Progesterone Bob.The only thing we know for sure from your posts is that you can always fall back on your carnie dunk tank experience.
If you don't understand what a typo is .... maybe you can find someone to explain it to you.Just as clever as your misinformation posts. Progesterone Bob.
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Yes .....You are the reason the thread was renamed.
No ... Just don't want to waste time on a BS artist.Sounds like the words of someone who knows they lost the argument.
I'm neither of those things.I've been reading his posts and he's far more knowledgeable then you conspiracy / ivermectin folks are.
So .... You thought about it a while ... and this was the substance you decided to post? LOLA typo. Good lord. You accurately typed in the name of a completely different drug. Polyartic Bob
I will leave it to the medical experts to decide if it is effective.There ARE effective treatments right now. Maybe you want to ignore that .... but some doctors are treating this VERY effectively.
I used it as an example of what types of claims have been made. For example how do you know drinking your own urine is or is not an effective treatment. Again I listen to the consensus of the expertsWhy do you guys keep bringing this up? ... Is it because you need to have something you can make fun of? I haven't seen any of the doctors mention something like that in any context.
I ignore rumours and conspiracy theories (to put it politely)You must be one because I have presented plenty of evidence that your are ignoring.
I want you to be right, but with all the misinformation going about, you will understand why I want to.see more evidence.This guy has actually treated a massive amount of patients ... successfully ... It doesn't matter if I ignore my doctor because he has no treatment options to offer.
We agree on that, you trust one doctor, I trust the scientific method.The smart play is to do what works.
Sometimes there aren't any, and there is nothing wrong with trying different things in those cases, providing it doesn't kill the patient.It is not smart to have no treatment options available to front line doctors.
Does it?This illness changes at the 8th day
The illness is caused by a virus. .a virus for which we have an effective, but imperfect vaccine..... that is why I am calling it an illness rather than a virus.
While the first phase is a virus ... what happens after that is NOT viral pneumonia ... it is a systemic reaction to the spike protein. The treatment before the 8th day is pretty much as you would treat any virus .... what happens on the 8th day after the first symptom determines how serious it is going to be and the treatment from that 8th day on needs to be much different than while it is still acting like a typical virus.
I did see one of the doctors describe it as :I am curious where you got this. You are saying that the first phase is a virus (I assume it isn't 8 days exactly for everyone?), and the second phase is a systemic reaction to the virus (which has the spike protein). Or are you saying the spike protein somehow breaks off from the rest of the virus? If it is no longer acting like a virus does that mean it has stopped replicating for everyone at this point?
I am not doubting you just asking for more information as this seems like it might be related to a specific set of circumstances rather than an umbrella description.
This is some stuff Bob picked up from his new beloved, the kooky general practitioner in South Africa.Bob B said:
While the first phase is a virus ... what happens after that is NOT viral pneumonia ... it is a systemic reaction to the spike protein. The treatment before the 8th day is pretty much as you would treat any virus .... what happens on the 8th day after the first symptom determines how serious it is going to be and the treatment from that 8th day on needs to be much different than while it is still acting like a typical virus.
I am curious where you got this. You are saying that the first phase is a virus (I assume it isn't 8 days exactly for everyone?), and the second phase is a systemic reaction to the virus (which has the spike protein). Or are you saying the spike protein somehow breaks off from the rest of the virus? If it is no longer acting like a virus does that mean it has stopped replicating for everyone at this point?
I am not doubting you just asking for more information as this seems like it might be related to a specific set of circumstances rather than an umbrella description.
Here is Bob B's witch doctor's exceedingly crazy claim.Bob B said:
While the first phase is a virus ... what happens after that is NOT viral pneumonia ... it is a systemic reaction to the spike protein. The treatment before the 8th day is pretty much as you would treat any virus .... what happens on the 8th day after the first symptom determines how serious it is going to be and the treatment from that 8th day on needs to be much different than while it is still acting like a typical virus.
I am curious where you got this. You are saying that the first phase is a virus (I assume it isn't 8 days exactly for everyone?), and the second phase is a systemic reaction to the virus (which has the spike protein). Or are you saying the spike protein somehow breaks off from the rest of the virus? If it is no longer acting like a virus does that mean it has stopped replicating for everyone at this point?
I am not doubting you just asking for more information as this seems like it might be related to a specific set of circumstances rather than an umbrella description.
The first time I heard the "8th day" phenomena was from the South African Dr Chetty. The way he describes it is that if you are going to have severe illness is will start presenting itself on the 8th day with a change in symptoms. He says that sometimes, the flu like symptoms have nearly disappeared and then suddenly new symptoms appear on the 8th day from first symptoms.Bob B said:
While the first phase is a virus ... what happens after that is NOT viral pneumonia ... it is a systemic reaction to the spike protein. The treatment before the 8th day is pretty much as you would treat any virus .... what happens on the 8th day after the first symptom determines how serious it is going to be and the treatment from that 8th day on needs to be much different than while it is still acting like a typical virus.
I am curious where you got this. You are saying that the first phase is a virus (I assume it isn't 8 days exactly for everyone?), and the second phase is a systemic reaction to the virus (which has the spike protein). Or are you saying the spike protein somehow breaks off from the rest of the virus? If it is no longer acting like a virus does that mean it has stopped replicating for everyone at this point?
I am not doubting you just asking for more information as this seems like it might be related to a specific set of circumstances rather than an umbrella description.
The first time I heard the "8th day" phenomena was from the South African Dr Chetty. LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLLOOLThe first time I heard the "8th day" phenomena was from the South African Dr Chetty. The way he describes it is that if you are going to have severe illness is will start presenting itself on the 8th day with a change in symptoms. He says that sometimes, the flu like symptoms have nearly disappeared and then suddenly new symptoms appear on the 8th day from first symptoms.
His theory is that this is an allergic reaction to the spike protein and that the spike protein may have been dislodged when the virus was killed by the immune system ..... This part is pure speculation .... except he says saw a huge change in how fast he can resolve the symptoms after adding a histamine to his drug cocktail when the allergic type symptoms appear on the 8th day.
He says that if a bee stings you on the butt .... your lips swell up. This reaction to the spike protein presents itself in the lung.
He says he tells his patients to call him immediately if they experience any change in symptoms on the 8th day ..... but that now his patients have usually already told each other about it. If he isn't going to be available 8 days after their first symptom, he writes a script for the meds ahead of time with detailed instruction on how to use them.
He says he only treats people symptomatically at the onset of the illness and concentrates his treatment to stopping any 8th day symptom changes as quickly as possible .... at that point he uses corticosteroids, antihistamines, anti-leukotrienes, and anti-coagulants with dosages depending on how severe the symptoms are and how the patient recovers .... He claims with this approach he has treated people with oxygen levels as low as 70 and returned them to normal as quickly as 4 hours.
It's hard to argue with his success .... he has trained other doctors around the world with his protocols and they are being very effectively in places like Honduras where the government health agencies adopted his approach.
The thing that bugs me is how many people could have been saved if we had adopted ANY early treatment protocols .... Dr McCullough and the group he works with has devised a very similar protocol that they have used effectively as well.
This 8th day reaction only occurs in some people ... other people are pretty much well after the viral stage and don't have the reaction to the spike protein.
Since I saw him mention this phenomena, I have watched videos with several doctors brainstorming .... when they hear this theory they pretty much all say ... yeah, that is how the progression works .... and why different treatments are required in the first 8 days than after.
I have attached a PDF with Dr Chetty's 8th day protocol as interpreted and used by others. This document was put together in May 2021 ... I don't know if there have been updates since then.
I am not recommending anyone use this treatment protocol ... just offering up for discussion.
Scientists have known about the phases of Covid from the very first month!!!!The first time I heard the "8th day" phenomena was from the South African Dr Chetty. The way he describes it is that if you are going to have severe illness is will start presenting itself on the 8th day with a change in symptoms. He says that sometimes, the flu like symptoms have nearly disappeared and then suddenly new symptoms appear on the 8th day from first symptoms.
His theory is that this is an allergic reaction to the spike protein and that the spike protein may have been dislodged when the virus was killed by the immune system ..... This part is pure speculation .... except he says saw a huge change in how fast he can resolve the symptoms after adding a histamine to his drug cocktail when the allergic type symptoms appear on the 8th day.
He says that if a bee stings you on the butt .... your lips swell up. This reaction to the spike protein presents itself in the lung.
He says he tells his patients to call him immediately if they experience any change in symptoms on the 8th day ..... but that now his patients have usually already told each other about it. If he isn't going to be available 8 days after their first symptom, he writes a script for the meds ahead of time with detailed instruction on how to use them.
He says he only treats people symptomatically at the onset of the illness and concentrates his treatment to stopping any 8th day symptom changes as quickly as possible .... at that point he uses corticosteroids, antihistamines, anti-leukotrienes, and anti-coagulants with dosages depending on how severe the symptoms are and how the patient recovers .... He claims with this approach he has treated people with oxygen levels as low as 70 and returned them to normal as quickly as 4 hours.
It's hard to argue with his success .... he has trained other doctors around the world with his protocols and they are being very effectively in places like Honduras where the government health agencies adopted his approach.
The thing that bugs me is how many people could have been saved if we had adopted ANY early treatment protocols .... Dr McCullough and the group he works with has devised a very similar protocol that they have used effectively as well.
This 8th day reaction only occurs in some people ... other people are pretty much well after the viral stage and don't have the reaction to the spike protein.
Since I saw him mention this phenomena, I have watched videos with several doctors brainstorming .... when they hear this theory they pretty much all say ... yeah, that is how the progression works .... and why different treatments are required in the first 8 days than after.
I have attached a PDF with Dr Chetty's 8th day protocol as interpreted and used by others. This document was put together in May 2021 ... I don't know if there have been updates since then.
I am not recommending anyone use this treatment protocol ... just offering up for discussion.
He says prednisone but dont you want people to take progesterone and a polyartic cocktail???????The first time I heard the "8th day" phenomena was from the South African Dr Chetty. The way he describes it is that if you are going to have severe illness is will start presenting itself on the 8th day with a change in symptoms. He says that sometimes, the flu like symptoms have nearly disappeared and then suddenly new symptoms appear on the 8th day from first symptoms.
His theory is that this is an allergic reaction to the spike protein and that the spike protein may have been dislodged when the virus was killed by the immune system ..... This part is pure speculation .... except he says saw a huge change in how fast he can resolve the symptoms after adding a histamine to his drug cocktail when the allergic type symptoms appear on the 8th day.
He says that if a bee stings you on the butt .... your lips swell up. This reaction to the spike protein presents itself in the lung.
He says he tells his patients to call him immediately if they experience any change in symptoms on the 8th day ..... but that now his patients have usually already told each other about it. If he isn't going to be available 8 days after their first symptom, he writes a script for the meds ahead of time with detailed instruction on how to use them.
He says he only treats people symptomatically at the onset of the illness and concentrates his treatment to stopping any 8th day symptom changes as quickly as possible .... at that point he uses corticosteroids, antihistamines, anti-leukotrienes, and anti-coagulants with dosages depending on how severe the symptoms are and how the patient recovers .... He claims with this approach he has treated people with oxygen levels as low as 70 and returned them to normal as quickly as 4 hours.
It's hard to argue with his success .... he has trained other doctors around the world with his protocols and they are being very effectively in places like Honduras where the government health agencies adopted his approach.
The thing that bugs me is how many people could have been saved if we had adopted ANY early treatment protocols .... Dr McCullough and the group he works with has devised a very similar protocol that they have used effectively as well.
This 8th day reaction only occurs in some people ... other people are pretty much well after the viral stage and don't have the reaction to the spike protein.
Since I saw him mention this phenomena, I have watched videos with several doctors brainstorming .... when they hear this theory they pretty much all say ... yeah, that is how the progression works .... and why different treatments are required in the first 8 days than after.
I have attached a PDF with Dr Chetty's 8th day protocol as interpreted and used by others. This document was put together in May 2021 ... I don't know if there have been updates since then.
I am not recommending anyone use this treatment protocol ... just offering up for discussion.
sure well who cares if the fake treatment is different from the other fake treatment. You might as well give them soy sauce.In Honduras .... a group of doctors also started TREATING Covid .... it turned the epidemic around in that country. They are using different meds than Dr Chetty and still being successful.
Below, the data shows that they have peaked at around 36 cases per week per 100,000 people .... our peak has been around 1,700 per 100,000
Anywhere doctors are actually doing early treatment of Covid is beating the pants off of the US where early treatment has been made very difficult.
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Honduras treatment for covid-19 stands out worldwide
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