I want to lay down CALB cells

[Usangira]

I have bought Prismatic cells 16 of them.
Because of space issues...I am thinking to lay down the prismatic cells instead of standing them up as most of pictures show.

Is there any harm ?

Thanks, Innocent

 

[Daddy Tanuki]

My opinion, and not backed by any facts but, that being said. stand them up, even sealed batteries leak some times.

 

[houseofancients]

also, compressiin will be a bit challenging if you lay them down
heard all sort of compress and dont compress about these calb cells, so i descided to just compress them ...

 

[mrzed001]

I have bought Prismatic cells 16 of them.
Because of space issues...I am thinking to lay down the prismatic cells instead of standing them up as most of pictures show.

Is there any harm ?

Thanks, Innocent

They look very cool in the side like DMI INC did ... but no I would not put them on that position.

 

[newbostonconst]

I put mine laying down in a wall cabinet from Menards much like the one above. The weight of the above cells will help keep them compressed.

 

[houseofancients]

I put mine laying down in a wall cabinet from Menards much like the one above. The weight of the above cells will help keep them compressed.

compression will get less and less with height...
no testing data, but common senses says keeping all cells at the same compression level is pretty good idea

 

[mrzed001]

I put mine laying down in a wall cabinet from Menards much like the one above. The weight of the above cells will help keep them compressed.

DMI wrote no electrolyte escaped until now.
I still would not place the cells on there side. Only in standing position.

 

[ereams65]

I've always thought if the vent is on the top, between the posts, then that was intended to be just that...the top. Easy test to my logic is lay mustard bottle on it's side and give it a punch vs. standing it straight up and giving it a punch. Logic dictates that the bottle on it's side will expel more mustard. See how sciencey I am?

 

[DerpsyDoodler]

My opinion, and not backed by any facts but, that being said. stand them up, even sealed batteries leak some times.

fact.

 

[BobR]

I have bought Prismatic cells 16 of them.
Because of space issues...I am thinking to lay down the prismatic cells instead of standing them up as most of pictures show.

Is there any harm ?

Thanks, Innocent

From the Calb manual: "Power module or battery shall be operated in accordance with relevant instructions;
1) After clamping, each battery group should be fixed into the power module properly with the terminals upward clamped .Placing the battery on its side is not recommended , installing the battery upside down is prohibited ;
2) When clipping the power modules into group, make sure all flat washers, spring washers and nuts in readiness and tight". https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...4b0ff4fc1817c08/1430244273977/User+Manual.pdf

 

[BobR]

I've always thought if the vent is on the top, between the posts, then that was intended to be just that...the top. Easy test to my logic is lay mustard bottle on it's side and give it a punch vs. standing it straight up and giving it a punch. Logic dictates that the bottle on it's side will expel more mustard. See how sciencey I am?

I store my mustard upside down in the frig. I have had no catastrophic failures.

 

[DerpsyDoodler]

I store my mustard upside down in the frig. I have had no catastrophic failures.

So what was the temperature of the fridge?
?

 

[BobR]

If space constraints were insurmountable my next choice, not the best, would be to lay them on there sides narrow edge down; not flat. I would clamp them as the manufacturer recommends.

 

[Daddy Tanuki]

I store my mustard upside down in the frig. I have had no catastrophic failures.

hell I do that with mustard, ketchup and mayonnaise, but if one of them leaks it is simple to clean up.... a toxic brew of lithium battery electrolyte is not something I want to deal with. Also Mustard and ketchup are cheap... a LiFePo4cell is not.

 

[BobR]

So what was the temperature of the fridge?
?

You must be careful of too low of a temperature; the contents will tend to solidify and any required flow will be inhibited.

 

[ereams65]

My MMS monitors the temp in the fridge thankfully......(Mustard Management System, of course)

 

[Cheap 4-life]

If space constraints were insurmountable my next choice, not the best, would be to lay them on there sides narrow edge down; not flat. I would clamp them as the manufacturer recommends.

Yes, if laid on the wider side some of the plates are being starved of electrolyte. Although I wouldn’t lay them on any side.

 

[Lt.Dan]

Yes, if laid on the wider side some of the plates are being starved of electrolyte. Although I wouldn’t lay them on any side.

Do LiFePO4 cells have plates?

 

[BobR]

Yes, if laid on the wider side some of the plates are being starved of electrolyte. Although I wouldn’t lay them on any side.

It is very much preferable to do as the manufacturer recommends. In the case of the Calb cells their instructions state that they should be upright. If at all possible in the OPs situation he should follow what is in the manufacturers manual.

 

[Daddy Tanuki]

Do LiFePO4 cells have plates?

define plates? they (lithium batteries) are thin film so the film itself acts in the same fashion as a plate would in a lead acid. as to if a portion of the thin film could be electrolyte starved or not is beyond me though.