Buy Victron……. ? Don’t worry…Be happy..?
Must be all Biden's fault...you're all the same.If I could afford victron I would buy victron. For the last 2 years I made less than $12000 a year, and this year I might make $8000. It's a good thing I'm thrifty. Lets go Brandon!
Oh so just because he doesn't support Biden, there MUST be no other option but to call him a Trump supporter?OH lookie another Trump supporter...
Must be all Biden's fault...you're all the same.
OH lookie another Trump supporter...
Must be all Biden's fault...you're all the same.
I believe your trolling for a fight......If it's a fight you want, then go shadow box. : )
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Have you thought of trying out the new revolutionary, state of the art, EG4 inverters instead?
Meh... after fighting with flashing some firmware due to serial communicatitons issues for a couple weeks I have to disagree. Undocumented parity requirements, bespoke (and broken) usb-serial drivers for computers to deal with each chipset, and the lack of auto-negotiation baud rates make me feel differently.Serial data transmission is much more reliable than USB.
Electronics rely on serial communications because it is cheap and it has only really been ~5-6 years that better solutions have really been viable at a reasonable price point. Everything really should have an internal web server these days (that can be locked down and out).A lot of commercial equipment still uses serial connections because of that.
Serial is good for ubiquity, but honestly that is about it. You shouldn't need low-level debugging tools to just communicate with a device. Proprietary [windows-only] software makes it significantly worse.If data transmission speed is not a factor then serial ports are a good choice.
Yeah, the challenge there are the number of fake "FTDI" adapters out there that FTDI broke compatibility with.The only USB to serial I trust is FTDI - every other USB I've tried has been sketchy at best. FTDI always works.
Well your going up against just about every industrial equipment manufacturers assessment.Meh... after fighting with flashing some firmware due to serial communicatitons issues for a couple weeks I have to disagree. Undocumented parity requirements, bespoke (and broken) usb-serial drivers for computers to deal with each chipset, and the lack of auto-negotiation baud rates make me feel differently.
Electronics rely on serial communications because it is cheap and it has only really been ~5-6 years that better solutions have really been viable at a reasonable price point. Everything really should have an internal web server these days (that can be locked down and out).
Serial is good for ubiquity, but honestly that is about it. You shouldn't need low-level debugging tools to just communicate with a device. Proprietary [windows-only] software makes it significantly worse.
Well your going up against just about every industrial equipment manufacturers assessment.
You will be hard pressed to find any kind of very expensive or even lower priced industrial machine that does not have serial ports.
The cheaper it is, is the more likely it is that it will have USB ports.
OK so what hybrid inverter vendors would you recommend then? Is Voltronics better??So I say this after having hooked up well over 25 MPP Solar systems at work ... so this is not one of those bitching for no reason type things (well it actually is) ... BUT .....
The MPP Solar is an excellent system - until its not.
Until you need customer support.
Until you try to read one of their "ENGLISH" manuals.
Until you try to figure out why in 2022 they are still using Serial cables with RG45 connectors on the end (Seriously - have they never heard of a USB connector!!) ...
There's just toooo many lighter, better, faster, cheaper systems coming on board to go thru this MPP headache any longer ... Sure back in the day when MPP Solar was really the only "slightly better than the rest" I would defend them and basically say that there wasn't really a choice out there that we could all afford .. but there is NOW -- and several of them ...
Manuals are mostly wrong - you waste several hours trying to figure out what they actually mean
OMG their WiFi software WATCHPOWER is sooo bad its not even funny - you can't even see anything you need... and everything comes out in PDF format instead of Excel...
There customer support is random at best -- and typically they are answering a question that you are not asking.... Their first answer is always - have you read the manual -- if you say Yes then they say - well tell us exactly what the issue is (which we already had) .. then they send you a response involving UNICORNs and Candy but not a solution...
AGAIN - Who the hell is using a serial to RG45 cable in the last decade ?? -- did they find a huge supply from 1990 they have to use up ... ??? ZERO of our laptops out here have an RG45 connector to plug into ...
My list actually goes on and on .. but all I can say is - before you start drinking the MPP Solar Kool-Aid you might want to look around at other alternatives ... For me personally - I'm done -- your playing Russian roulette hoping that if/when your system has any issues - that someone on YOUTUBE has made a solution because I promise you support is zero ...
Again - everyone of my MPP solar's are still up and running -- BUT it has been an "ass-pain" to get some of them to do what they say they can do.
aaaaggghhhhhhh
Voltronics makes the MPP Solar inverters.OK so what hybrid inverter vendors would you recommend then? Is Voltronics better??
Voltronics makes the MPP Solar inverters.
The advantage of the RJ45 is that the crimping tool is cheap and most DIY should be able to make a specialized cable per manufacturer wiring requirements to connect specific inverters and batteries. If manufacturers would use standard cables, USB might be the a better choice.Meh... after fighting with flashing some firmware due to serial communicatitons issues for a couple weeks I have to disagree. Undocumented parity requirements, bespoke (and broken) usb-serial drivers for computers to deal with each chipset, and the lack of auto-negotiation baud rates make me feel differently.
Electronics rely on serial communications because it is cheap and it has only really been ~5-6 years that better solutions have really been viable at a reasonable price point. Everything really should have an internal web server these days (that can be locked down and out).
Serial is good for ubiquity, but honestly that is about it. You shouldn't need low-level debugging tools to just communicate with a device. Proprietary [windows-only] software makes it significantly worse.
OK so what hybrid inverter vendors would you recommend then? Is Voltronics better??
I can easily understand your frustration and it is justified. However, anyone that has installed 25 MPP Solar inverters would have more knowledge and experience than the normal support person answering phone calls. Generally, a support person is someone that has read the manual and sometimes have attended a class to be certified. They are not usually engineers and not usually anyone with extensive knowledge of installing inverters. Usually, if the answer is not in the manual, support don't know and usually have limited resources to find an answer.So I say this after having hooked up well over 25 MPP Solar systems at work ... so this is not one of those bitching for no reason type things (well it actually is) ... BUT .....
The MPP Solar is an excellent system - until its not.
Until you need customer support.
Until you try to read one of their "ENGLISH" manuals.
Until you try to figure out why in 2022 they are still using Serial cables with RG45 connectors on the end (Seriously - have they never heard of a USB connector!!) ...
There's just toooo many lighter, better, faster, cheaper systems coming on board to go thru this MPP headache any longer ... Sure back in the day when MPP Solar was really the only "slightly better than the rest" I would defend them and basically say that there wasn't really a choice out there that we could all afford .. but there is NOW -- and several of them ...
Manuals are mostly wrong - you waste several hours trying to figure out what they actually mean
OMG their WiFi software WATCHPOWER is sooo bad its not even funny - you can't even see anything you need... and everything comes out in PDF format instead of Excel...
There customer support is random at best -- and typically they are answering a question that you are not asking.... Their first answer is always - have you read the manual -- if you say Yes then they say - well tell us exactly what the issue is (which we already had) .. then they send you a response involving UNICORNs and Candy but not a solution...
AGAIN - Who the hell is using a serial to RG45 cable in the last decade ?? -- did they find a huge supply from 1990 they have to use up ... ??? ZERO of our laptops out here have an RG45 connector to plug into ...
My list actually goes on and on .. but all I can say is - before you start drinking the MPP Solar Kool-Aid you might want to look around at other alternatives ... For me personally - I'm done -- your playing Russian roulette hoping that if/when your system has any issues - that someone on YOUTUBE has made a solution because I promise you support is zero ...
Again - everyone of my MPP solar's are still up and running -- BUT it has been an "ass-pain" to get some of them to do what they say they can do.
aaaaggghhhhhhh