Orion xs dc/dc charger?

[Meeko]

Hello everyone. I was in the process of connecting our new DC-to-DC charger, the Orion xs Smart 12/12-50A. One of the advertised features was its compatibility with 4 AWG (25 mm²) cables. However, I encountered a challenge when attempting to insert all the copper strands into the designated hole due to the tight fit.

The ferrule crimping tool we acquired creates a square crimp, which is incompatible with the hole. We experimented with a 6 AWG ferrule, but it was still too large to fit. I would like to know if anyone else has encountered this issue.

Additionally, I would like to clarify whether the settings on the Orion-xs, should be identical to those on our Victron solar controller. While I assume they should be the same, I understand the potential consequences of making assumptions. I would appreciate any guidance or advice on this matter. Thank you in advance for your assistance.

 

[justinm001]

4ga is severely oversized for 30amps. Whenever I oversize like that I just trim the finely stranded wires with a knife on one side.

 

[Meeko]

Indeed, utilizing a higher amperage rating is preferable in this scenario. Considering the 50 amp DC to DC conversion and the 25 feet run, I opted for 4 AWG cables. The price difference between 4 AWG and 6 AWG was negligible.

 

[datdude]

Indeed, utilizing a higher amperage rating is preferable in this scenario. Considering the 50 amp DC to DC conversion and the 25 feet run, I opted for 4 AWG cables. The price difference between 4 AWG and 6 AWG was negligible.

Isn't that a 30 amp DC-DC charger, though? Maybe I am missing something.

 

[justinm001]

The tr smart 30a is 6awg, the new XS might be 4awg but not sure.

If you trim it down and still have enough space to separate the wires that's ideal. You still get all the benefits of the larger cable over distance because the long part is 4ga.

https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-Orion-Tr-Smart-DC-DC-chargers-isolated-250-400W-EN.pdf

 

[Meeko]

Isn't that a 30 amp DC-DC charger, though? Maybe I am missing something.

The new xs is 50amp

 

[datdude]

The new xs is 50amp

Ok, it is just the part number you actually mentioned in your post is 30amp. That was the confusion. Why did you even mention the TR?

 

[Meeko]

Ok, it is just the part number you actually mentioned in your post is 30amp. That was the confusion. Why did you even mention

 

[Meeko]

That was my bad key board auto corrected to the 30 amp TR

 

[datdude]

Ok, I just wanted to make sure we were all talking about the same equipment.

 

[jimf909]

Does your 4 AWG fit w/out a ferrule? I know this can become an endless internet argument but I don't use ferrules with Victron connectors and I believe Victron supports both methods.

 

[corn18]

I just ordered an Orion XS. I like that I can adjust the input current. Will set it to 30A and see what comes out the other side. I like it because it can now play with my Cerbo GX, although I am out of VE.Direct slots on the Cerbo so will have to use a USB slot.