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The EG4 18kPV is now CEC listed

BraydenFromEG4

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As the title says, the EG4 18kPV is now CEC listed!
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This is another big step in keeping up with codes. While a fair number of DIYers don't have to worry about super strict regulation, there are plenty of people in the states that do, so we're happy to announce that we're doing our due diligence to make sure you don't get your system turned away.

Please check with your local AHJ when you're making plans for a solar system to get an idea of what you can/can't use! We look forward to supporting everyone as best we can, and will continue to work towards compliance at as many stages as possible!
 
Congrats! Ordered one today myself.

Just out of curiosity, and a lack of understanding the CEC process, does this apply to all previously shipped units, or does this need some form of a "sticker" for those that already have one in hand? I imagine that will be important to early adopters.
 
It has no ESS/batteries combination yet to meet UL 9520 2nd edition 2020 ? It's cool that the inverters are CEC approved, but ....I need compliant batteries to work with it.
 
Finally approved, as a Californian I no longer have an excuse to procrastinate any longer about which AIO inverter is best for me. Probably time to actually order an inverter. I have the panels, have cleared oak trees from the ground mount install location, have selected the Sinclair ground mounts, today I picked up a like new 10kw heavy duty stationary propane generator (water-cooled 1.5L 4-cylinder Mitsubishi motor!), and I already have a 300-gallon propane tank that will be dedicated for the generator only. Actually, I'm glad I don't have all the system parts, it will be 107F outside tomorrow, but is not all bad as there will be fireworks over the lake tomorrow night.
 
I am wanting to run my 3/4 hp deep well pump, 2.5 ton heat pump / AC unit and my hot water heater. Also my dryer and range - all 240 volt.
I am trying to decide on the Shneider XW pro 6.8 or the new EG4 18k pv. I have been told that either one of these would handle all these 240 volt loads. The unit I purchase would only be doing these 240 volt loads, NO 110 loads. Obviously the well pump and hot water heater are on and off all day long. The AC runs a few hours during the day for about a month or so in the summer and the heat pump runs during the day & night in the spring, fall a about a month in the winter. Once it is 20 degrees or lower, it is no longer in use, so quite a bit of the winter the heat pump / ac is not in use. The dryer runs for about a half hour once a day about 3 days a week. The oven part of the range only gets used a couple of times a month, but one or two of the top burners are used once a day / every day. Anybody have any experience with the EG4 18k running a deep well pump and hot water heater at the same time? Along with a heat pump / ac? I am somewhat convinced that the Schneider XW pro can do it, but I only have reviews to base that on and no one seems to talk about well pumps or hot water heaters with them.
 
Finally approved, as a Californian I no longer have an excuse to procrastinate any longer about which AIO inverter is best for me. Probably time to actually order an inverter. I have the panels, have cleared oak trees from the ground mount install location, have selected the Sinclair ground mounts, today I picked up a like new 10kw heavy duty stationary propane generator (water-cooled 1.5L 4-cylinder Mitsubishi motor!), and I already have a 300-gallon propane tank that will be dedicated for the generator only. Actually, I'm glad I don't have all the system parts, it will be 107F outside tomorrow, but is not all bad as there will be fireworks over the lake tomorrow night.
Sounds like you also need it to be approved, listed to use batteries with it ( ESS)... stand alone off grid? I may be wrong, but I don't think it's currently approved that way . Sounds like maybe in July (with specific batteries)
 
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I am wanting to run my 3/4 hp deep well pump, 2.5 ton heat pump / AC unit and my hot water heater. Also my dryer and range - all 240 volt.
I am trying to decide on the Shneider XW pro 6.8 or the new EG4 18k pv. I have been told that either one of these would handle all these 240 volt loads. The unit I purchase would only be doing these 240 volt loads, NO 110 loads. Obviously the well pump and hot water heater are on and off all day long. The AC runs a few hours during the day for about a month or so in the summer and the heat pump runs during the day & night in the spring, fall a about a month in the winter. Once it is 20 degrees or lower, it is no longer in use, so quite a bit of the winter the heat pump / ac is not in use. The dryer runs for about a half hour once a day about 3 days a week. The oven part of the range only gets used a couple of times a month, but one or two of the top burners are used once a day / every day. Anybody have any experience with the EG4 18k running a deep well pump and hot water heater at the same time? Along with a heat pump / ac? I am somewhat convinced that the Schneider XW pro can do it, but I only have reviews to base that on and no one seems to talk about well pumps or hot water heaters with them.
I have 2 18K's on 4 strings (2 each) with 30KW LP4 battery rack all from SS. I'm all electric, they are (as I type) running my whole house. This morning at 9AM in Phoenix AZ: Load in the washer, load in the dryer, charging the NiroEV @ 24A, GF running blow dryer, 4T A/C. It will drive it, but the A/C wreaks a bit of havoc on start. I've got a kit on the A/C, but I'm looking into a couple of options to prevent in-rush, soft-start kit helped, but the lights still blink when it comes on. Only pulls around 18A when running. I'm in another thread talking about the A/C in-rush issues. I've been running for 2+ days now. I need more battery to make it thru the night, and I will need more panels to fill them up. I've got 32x455W, but I plumbed electric for 16 more panels (2 strings) to max out the units. Still don't think 60KWH will take me from ~6PM until 7AM unless I replace the 4T with some splits or something, but yesterday I got over 80KWH from the panels, just need to make sure I have a place to store the juice. My highest daily utilization last year according to my LPC was ~135 KWH / day. Should be able to manage it pretty tight with 120KWH/day of panels.

I will close with this: I bought 5 generic 5K units for a fraction of the cost that literally fell over when the A/C cut on. As in completely off, no breakers, but cycle all power to get the displays back on. These 18ks' seem fairly robust so far. They blink the lights, the UPS's in my office, on the TV all kick on for an instant whenever the A/C kicks, but like the hair dryer and the EV charger you only see a little skip... I think the unit dislikes rapid change, in either direction up or down, but it will handle it. See graph below:

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I'm running an SBC with current sensors at each of the panel legs to neutral... The inverters came back on at ~ 7:15. I have the SBC controlling relays that allowed the car charger to kick on an 9AM, precisely the time the GF decided to drop a load of clothes in the Dryer, and then blow dry the hair pushing the peak leg to around 60. I'm still struggling with getting the behavior I want, I do not want to tie to the grid in a shared arrangement, but I think these units are thus far, definitely capable of handling the load. I might also mention these are rated at -20C (or something) to 60C. The room these are mounted in was 110F or around 43C ambient. The fans don't even cut on until the loads get over about 50 amps. THAT is pretty impressive to me, it get's ridiculously hot here. Supposedly at 45C the units 'degrade'. No indication of what the means in the latest version of the manual.
 
I have 2 18K's on 4 strings (2 each) with 30KW LP4 battery rack all from SS. I'm all electric, they are (as I type) running my whole house. This morning at 9AM in Phoenix AZ: Load in the washer, load in the dryer, charging the NiroEV @ 24A, GF running blow dryer, 4T A/C. It will drive it, but the A/C wreaks a bit of havoc on start. I've got a kit on the A/C, but I'm looking into a couple of options to prevent in-rush, soft-start kit helped, but the lights still blink when it comes on. Only pulls around 18A when running. I'm in another thread talking about the A/C in-rush issues. I've been running for 2+ days now. I need more battery to make it thru the night, and I will need more panels to fill them up. I've got 32x455W, but I plumbed electric for 16 more panels (2 strings) to max out the units. Still don't think 60KWH will take me from ~6PM until 7AM unless I replace the 4T with some splits or something, but yesterday I got over 80KWH from the panels, just need to make sure I have a place to store the juice. My highest daily utilization last year according to my LPC was ~135 KWH / day. Should be able to manage it pretty tight with 120KWH/day of panels.

I will close with this: I bought 5 generic 5K units for a fraction of the cost that literally fell over when the A/C cut on. As in completely off, no breakers, but cycle all power to get the displays back on. These 18ks' seem fairly robust so far. They blink the lights, the UPS's in my office, on the TV all kick on for an instant whenever the A/C kicks, but like the hair dryer and the EV charger you only see a little skip... I think the unit dislikes rapid change, in either direction up or down, but it will handle it. See graph below:

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I'm running an SBC with current sensors at each of the panel legs to neutral... The inverters came back on at ~ 7:15. I have the SBC controlling relays that allowed the car charger to kick on an 9AM, precisely the time the GF decided to drop a load of clothes in the Dryer, and then blow dry the hair pushing the peak leg to around 60. I'm still struggling with getting the behavior I want, I do not want to tie to the grid in a shared arrangement, but I think these units are thus far, definitely capable of handling the load. I might also mention these are rated at -20C (or something) to 60C. The room these are mounted in was 110F or around 43C ambient. The fans don't even cut on until the loads get over about 50 amps. THAT is pretty impressive to me, it get's ridiculously hot here. Supposedly at 45C the units 'degrade'. No indication of what the means in the latest version of the manual.
Quite a system you have there. Well, with all you are running. I am more convinced that one 18k can run my 3/4 hp well pum, hot water heater, 2.5 ton heat pump / ac with soft start, dryer and range. No 110 loads. Only those (5) 240v loads and only the well pump and hot water heater will be the loads that are always on. Thanks for the info!
 
Quite a system you have there. Well, with all you are running. I am more convinced that one 18k can run my 3/4 hp well pum, hot water heater, 2.5 ton heat pump / ac with soft start, dryer and range. No 110 loads. Only those (5) 240v loads and only the well pump and hot water heater will be the loads that are always on. Thanks for the info!
Heheheheh, Compared to some of the guys here I got nuthin! There are some real Solar junkies on this forum.
 
It has no ESS/batteries combination yet to meet UL 9520 2nd edition 2020 ? It's cool that the inverters are CEC approved, but ....I need compliant batteries to work with it.

Same here AND have a site a tad over 5,000 feet altitude. (5,020 feet / 1530 meters at the equipment location.)

(One problem I have with the EG4 equipment is the max altitude specs onmost of it, which eliminate most of California starting just east of the Central Valley, along with nearly all of the next two or three tiers of states working east from there.)
 
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Same here AND have a site a tad over 5,000 feet altitude. (5,020 feet / 1530 meters at the equipment location.)

(One problem I have with the EG4 equipment is the max altitude specs onmost of it, which eliminate most of California starting just east of the Central Valley, along with nearly all of the next two or three tiers of states working east from there.)
Oh shoot, I did not know about the altitude limitation I'm at 6000'
 
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