Its reliable as Sol-Ark because its the same thing
Sol-Ark 15k will only invert 13k of DC PV to AC
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Are they built with the same quality of components?
To be UL listed, SolArk had to have component list reviewed, and periodic audits after that.
An inverter can be built with cheaper components if it doesn't have to be listed.
Looks like Deye 16k single-phase sells for $3,959 (equivalent in South African Rand).
That is a single-phase unit, can't compare directly with split-phase.
To be UL listed, SolArk had to have component list reviewed, and periodic audits after that.
An inverter can be built with cheaper components if it doesn't have to be listed.
Looks like Deye 16k single-phase sells for $3,959 (equivalent in South African Rand).
That is a single-phase unit, can't compare directly with split-phase.
There was a comparison of internals somewhere of Deye 8KW and Sol-Ark 8K. It was the same thing
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The PCB's used are always going to be the same, the question is are the components populating them of the same quality.
You can create a BOM and populate the PCB with $500 worth of parts while another company can make that same PCB and use $200 worth of parts. Component prices vary wildly between cheap Chinese components vs Japanese or Taiwanese components.
It all depends on what the buyer is telling the manufacturer to use on their version of the product.
I am not saying this is the case but you cannot tell by just a casual look. You have to know the Brands of all the components and compare them on that level.
I was talking about the components as well tbh. Caps are Nichicon 105c rated on Deye and both Sol-Ark and Deye use the same relays. Pretty sure IGBT's are the same. MCU is same.
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If you say so, I have never seen both units striped down and compared side by side.
No but someone posted few pictures somewhere in this forum with both taken apart.
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they are sol-ark's ( and sunsynks for that matter)
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This is an example of the Kind of Photos you need to make a comparison.
Notice you can zoom in and see part numbers and the manufacturers name.
Tear Down Photo
I asked my Installer friend down the road if I can come by the next time he is replacing a board in a Sol-Ark. He is now a certified SA repair man.
If it happens I will have my DSLR on hand and get some photos.
Looks identical to Deye 8kW. Not surprising since Sol-Ark 12k is just a 9kW inverter
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Except they cannot be since the 12K has a 3KW built in SCC that combines with the 9KW Inverter.
I cannot make out any details in that photo. It's like looking at a Honda CRV and a Toyota RAV4 from a mile away and saying they are the same vehicle. If your looking to buy a Deye contact a member called Bubbacat. He seems to know how to get them.
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I cannot make out anything other than the boards are roughly the same in shape and position.
There is another set of boards below whose that are not visible!
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Of late the part number removing thing is becoming annoyingly common.
So much IP theft in China that even the Chinese are scared of the Chinese.
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Actually that has been common for some time. My wife had a Chinese friend who was exporting designer bags and clothing from the US to her friends and associates in China. We were talking one time and I realized that most of that stuff was manufactured in China so the obvious question was why the circuitous route, since those customers could presumably buy those goods in China. The answer was what you stated, the Chinese don't trust the Chinese.
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It was common on some high end equipment coming out of China for the last Decade plus, but it has really gotten crazy now.
The Apparel market over there is insane, this is a field that most Chinese people are familiar with, versus electronic engineering which only the select few have any skills.
As for rubbing off the Markings on every single IC is for hundreds of boards, this is not a trivial task lol.
I suspect the Chinese have probably invented an Automated Dremel machine to do it for them.
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Yes but not UL listed so they cannot be grid tied. Off grid only
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