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Victron is Over-priced Eurotrash. Why would anybody buy Victron over an AiO?

I wonder why there are very few mentions in this thread about the difficulty of getting Victron equipment to support NEC requirements? I’m very happy with Victron reliability and the VRM ecosystem but all-in-ones ones like SolArk or EG4 have built in support for GFP and AFP; this seems almost impossible to get as an add on for modern, high voltage strings. Anyone on here attempt to get permitted with a Victron setup?
 
I wonder why there are very few mentions in this thread about the difficulty of getting Victron equipment to support NEC requirements? I’m very happy with Victron reliability and the VRM ecosystem but all-in-ones ones like SolArk or EG4 have built in support for GFP and AFP; this seems almost impossible to get as an add on for modern, high voltage strings. Anyone on here attempt to get permitted with a Victron setup?

That's the worst part about Victron. They seem to give a rats butt about American customers. They'll sell to us, but they have little to no concern for whether we can do a permitted legal install with their kit. Granted, many of the NEC / UL permitting requirements are excessive, and I don't like many of them because they put a stranglehold on adoption through excessive cost.. but it would be nice if Victron followed along anyway.
 
Victron's base customer is boat, RV, and off grid.
NEC is not their concern.
Exactly. I guess that's how I ended up with Victron gear. I approached my setup as though I were installing in an RV or boat. My fallback plan was if it didn't work out in the house I could install in all into my RV.

I think Victron is beginning to test the potential of the US residential market.
 
Do you live in a non rust belt? Any rust prevention measures?
Rust belt adjacent.
It sits outside, not in a garage.
Which is why the paint could use a refresh.
I really don't know what makes it amazing. It has never needed anything other than routine maintenance.
I purchased it used (2 years old), from a little old lady. Who only drove it to church on Sunday.
I never met her, maybe she used a magic spell on it. lol
 
I tried Linux for 6 months. Something as simple as installing a program was so complicated. In Windows you just double click the install file. Why did Linux have to make it so complicated?

Better is relative. Better for computer engineers, not for regular users IMO.
With flexibility comes complication. Yes, Linux allows you more control, and flexibility, but yes, you may have to put in the time to learn it.

For example, The Cerbo GX is Linux on a Raspberry Pi, and you can download (for free!) the OS yourself, VenusOS, and run it on your own Raspberry Pi. Yes, more complicated, but with maximum flexibility.
It is up to the individual if such as system is worth the effort.

Linux's legacy is Unix, and as such has been around since 1969.
 
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How many mouse clicks are required to perform "one click install" under Windows?

Maybe a software vendor could provide a script for Linux which performs install without user input.
 
How many mouse clicks are required to perform "one click install" under Windows?

Maybe a software vendor could provide a script for Linux which performs install without user input.

You download the OS image, put in a microSD card on your desktop then just burn the image to the microSD card and put it in the Pi and boot it then just connect to it via a web browser on your network at http://venus.local and you're on the remote console. It's pretty simple.

 
I wonder why there are very few mentions in this thread about the difficulty of getting Victron equipment to support NEC requirements? I’m very happy with Victron reliability and the VRM ecosystem but all-in-ones ones like SolArk or EG4 have built in support for GFP and AFP; this seems almost impossible to get as an add on for modern, high voltage strings. Anyone on here attempt to get permitted with a Victron setup?
My off-grid barn requires a permit. I got approved using the ETL listed SmartSolar Charge Controller and the UL listed 48V Multiplus II.
 
How many mouse clicks are required to perform "one click install" under Windows?

Maybe a software vendor could provide a script for Linux which performs install without user input.

I think part of the Linux issue is the user base doesn’t want a Windows replacement OS. They want Linux to remain distinctly different and as “original” as possible. With innovations like one click installs, it becomes less and less “original”.
 
My off-grid barn requires a permit. I got approved using the ETL listed SmartSolar Charge Controller and the UL listed 48V Multiplus II.
Did you have to use any non Victron products, or non listed Victron products to complete your installation?

Even something like their Lynx Distributor doesn't have ETL/UL listing of any sort that I'm aware of, which is a total bummer.
 
Rust belt adjacent.
It sits outside, not in a garage.
Which is why the paint could use a refresh.
I really don't know what makes it amazing. It has never needed anything other than routine maintenance.
I purchased it used (2 years old), from a little old lady. Who only drove it to church on Sunday.
I never met her, maybe she used a magic spell on it. lol
Sounds like you lucked out and bought the mythical car every financial book talks about. (Driven by tweety’s grandmother once a week to church, oil changed every 6 months, washed weekly and garaged.)

bet it still had the new car smell, lol. That’s awesome.

2 year old car now sell for more than new ones, lol.
 
Sounds like you lucked out and bought the mythical car every financial book talks about. (Driven by tweety’s grandmother once a week to church, oil changed every 6 months, washed weekly and garaged.)

bet it still had the new car smell, lol. That’s awesome.

2 year old car now sell for more than new ones, lol.
Yes, very lucky.
Grandma only had it for 2 years. It's been mine for the other 34. I have not treated it as well. But, it's still the best vehicle I have ever owned.
 
Yes, very lucky.
Grandma only had it for 2 years. It's been mine for the other 34. I have not treated it as well. But, it's still the best vehicle I have ever owned.
Wonder what day of the week it was built on? Whatever day it was, those workers were feeling it!
 
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