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Anyone buying these 305ah envision cells?

I just received 18 Envision AESC 305Ah cells (2 extras) from 18650 Battery Store. Here's a few pictures with my takes. This battery build will be the kWh power for an EG4 3000 (initially wo solar) set up as a 120 vac Grid Back Up to essential circuits separated from main breaker panel via one of those 10 Circuit Breaker Box - Transfer Switch Kit (at my girlfriend's house).

1st heard of Envision AESC on this thread; a 2021 DIYSolarForum thread brings up info about Envision 315Ah cells. Read "AESC (Automotive Energy Supply Corporation) was founded as a joint venture between Nissian and NEC-Tokin ... signed a 2022 deal to supply BMW with automotive grade cells."

I tested an earlier one cell order. Charged to 3.6v; then tested via a 200 Watt Fan Ah Tester; got 300 Ah (still not sure about these low 20 amp draw tests). Also after re-charge to 3.58 v; dropped to 3.454 v on 3rd day, & to 3.449 v after 8 days sitting. The better test for me will be hooking up BMS and EG4 3000, ... to see how cell balance looks through some full high amp charge and discharge cycles. (will report later

Re Full B Grade Order: Foam Packing was best I seen. Cell voltages arrived at 3.291 to 3.294 volts. Bar code on top gone. Sticker bar code on side (see pics). One battery had small pecks on edge (see pic/ will cover with electrical tape). I expected side bulges (three previous earlier EVE 280Ah LiFePO4 orders all had some bulges too). With battery cells pressed together (in full project picture); I measured 3.2 mm to 5.6 mm between battery sides (divided by two = approx side bulges on each cell. (UPDATE: After fuller charge before top balance; cell spacing increased to 4.55 mm to 6.35 mm; ÷ 2 for approx bulges. ... I am NOT Compressing my cells, and if you are, this might not fit. The Envision AESC Battery Terminals have a smaller diameter bus bar contact than my aged 2 - 3 year old EVE Cells (see pic). I prefer fuller bus bar contact for higher amperage capabilities; but stepping up from my 24 volt home solar set up experiences) to my first 48 volt build mean half the amperage for same 120vac Watts; ... so my take is this is OK for me! I wonder if these were former Envision AESC 315 Ah cells, and how long they have been in a storage mode (have not asked yet) .

My Take: Looked like a Good Bet at an Economical Price. Will report more later. ... :+)
 

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I just received 18 Envision AESC 305Ah cells (2 extras) from 18650 Battery Store. Here's a few pictures with my takes. This battery is for powering an EG4 3000 (initially wo solar) as a 120 vac Grid Back Up to essential circuits separated from main breaker panel via one of those 10 Circuit Breaker Box - Transfer Switch Kit.

1st heard of Envision AESC on this thread; a 2021 DIYSolarForum thread brings up info about Envision 315Ah cells. Read "AESC (Automotive Energy Supply Corporation) was founded as a joint venture between Nissian and NEC-Tokin ... signed a 2022 deal to supply BMW with automotive grade cells."

I tested an earlier one cell order. Charged to 3.6v; then tested via a 200 Watt Fan Ah Tester; got 300 Ah (@ low 20 amp draw). The better test for me will be hooking up to EG4 3000 and BMS; to see cell balance through full high amp charge and discharge cycles. (will report later

Re Full B Grade Order: Foam Packing was best I seen. Cell voltages were 3.271 to 3.294 volts. Bar code on top gone. Sticker bar code on side (see pics). One battery had small pecks on edge (see pic/ will accept and cover with electrical tape). I expected side bulges (three previous other LiFePO4 orders all had some bulges too). With battery cell pressed together; I measured 3.2 mm to 5.6 mm between battery sides (divided by two = approx side bulges on each cell/ and I am not compressing my cells). The Envision AESC Battery Terminals have a smaller diameter bus bar contact than my EVE Cells. I prefer fuller bus bar contact for higher amperage capabilities; but going from a 24 volt home solar set up) to my first 48 volt build mean half the amperage for same 120vac Watts; so OK for that! I wonder if these were former Envision AESC 315 Ah cells, and how long have these been in a storage state (have not asked yet) .

My Take: Looked like a good bet at lower price. Will report more later. ... :+)
Almost the same as my cells, however, the terminal size/contact area was the as same size as my eve cells..


As I mentioned before, so far I am mighty impressed by these cells, and given they are much cheaper and seem to do just as good as my eve lf304's , they are my cell of choice from now on
( also the fact I can get them locally ( NKON, 30 minute drive) and cheaper than the EVE'S , the choice is easily made)
 
Almost the same as my cells, however, the terminal size/contact area was the as same size as my eve cells..


As I mentioned before, so far I am mighty impressed by these cells, and given they are much cheaper and seem to do just as good as my eve lf304's , they are my cell of choice from now on
( also the fact I can get them locally ( NKON, 30 minute drive) and cheaper than the EVE'S , the choice is easily made)
What remains amazing to me (on top of the smallish battery space required) ... is comparing the cost of my upcoming 15 kWh DIY LiFePO4 build to Tesla Power Walls w less kWh going for $11k - $14K, or the the Generac Powerrcell going for about $10k for 9 kWh, or $20K for 18 kWh. Of Course PowerWalls and PowerCells all have added bells and whistles; including (I believe) their built in 240vac inverters, and battery chargers, and likely computerized chipsets to configure automatic charge batteries at night cycles when the cost of grid power is low, and possibly (eventually) sell power back to grid supplier at peak use times .... The 18 x 305 Ah cells (two extras) cost less than $1860 with shipping to California. ... To get 240vac 6000 Watt (25 - 30 amps on each leg of 240vac usa split phase); ... One Great econ Option I see is networking two x EG4 3000 EHV-48 All IN Ones (for about $700 each on their sales pitch cycle) on one common battery bank, ... with one BMS, cables and safety details. ... for $3.5K - $4K plus DIY labor with attentions to the details can produce a very capable House Back Up or Off Grid System (& the Solar Panels can come later for a Grid Home/ though important for Off Grid). .. Two EG4 3000 can also take up to 10,000 Watts of PV Solar Panels (5KW PV Each). IMhO, The DIY Options we are all learning about here (Thanks Will Prowse and other YouTube educational channels) ... are Awesome ... My Two Cents ... I love learning about the ongoing innovations. Happy Days ...
 
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Almost the same as my cells, however, the terminal size/contact area was the as same size as my eve cells..


As I mentioned before, so far I am mighty impressed by these cells, and given they are much cheaper and seem to do just as good as my eve lf304's , they are my cell of choice from now on
( also the fact I can get them locally ( NKON, 30 minute drive) and cheaper than the EVE'S , the choice is easily made)
They don't have them in stock for a while.
Want these cells, but if they can't deliver them, I'll settle for the rept cells.

Have 32 of the rept and happy those as well.
 
This might just push me to hit buy... It's cheaper to ship 17 since they don't give FedEx as an option for 16 weird.
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You could try calling them. When I mentioned this to Steven, he said there's a problem in the shipping calc. I also ended up picking a quantity that gave me the cheaper FedEx option. Shipping was pretty fast.
 
Just bought 16 of these cells for my upgraded 15kwh pack. Got it with the Seplos 280L upright case.

Got it from a reputable supplier so I'm trusting them that they've checked the quality of the cells, and with my previous dealings with them, I have no concerns on that front.

Guess we'll see tomorrow :).
Can I ask where you purchased your Seplos 280L upright case? I'm interested in getting one.
 
just got 32 in ordered thurday night shipped friday delivered monday, ordered 33, but one didn't get shipped. Got a tracking number, but it shows never picked up. Emailed them about it. I'm not to worried about it, I ordered 1 extra jic and they all arrived in decent condition, no shipping damage, very well packaged, but they are all a little bulged. charging them now before top balance and cycle test.
 
last cell just showed up, good condition shipped in the same boxes the 4 packs shipped in with just 1 cell in it. to bad their shipping csalculator doesn't function better. this box could have easily fit a couple bms's and accessories which I didn't order because fedex shipping went away when I added bms's to cart. oh well.
 
What remains amazing to me (on top of the smallish battery space required) ... is comparing the cost of my upcoming 15 kWh DIY LiFePO4 build to Tesla Power Walls w less kWh going for $11k - $14K, or the the Generac Powerrcell going for about $10k for 9 kWh, or $20K for 18 kWh. Of Course PowerWalls and PowerCells all have added bells and whistles; including (I believe) their built in 240vac inverters, and battery chargers, and likely computerized chipsets to configure automatic charge batteries at night cycles when the cost of grid power is low, and possibly (eventually) sell power back to grid supplier at peak use times .... The 18 x 305 Ah cells (two extras) cost less than $1860 with shipping to California. ... To get 240vac 6000 Watt (25 - 30 amps on each leg of 240vac usa split phase); ... One Great econ Option I see is networking two x EG4 3000 EHV-48 All IN Ones (for about $700 each on their sales pitch cycle) on one common battery bank, ... with one BMS, cables and safety details. ... for $3.5K - $4K plus DIY labor with attentions to the details can produce a very capable House Back Up or Off Grid System (& the Solar Panels can come later for a Grid Home/ though important for Off Grid). .. Two EG4 3000 can also take up to 10,000 Watts of PV Solar Panels (5KW PV Each). IMhO, The DIY Options we are all learning about here (Thanks Will Prowse and other YouTube educational channels) ... are Awesome ... My Two Cents ... I love learning about the ongoing innovations. Happy Days ...
It actually tells you the sometimes outrageous profit margins that are made :)
 
Still holding out / gambling prices will drop again but the amount of daylight we are losing every day is pushing me to buy...
I first saw the deal at 99 and was intrigued. Then it hit 89 and I was like okay they’re in my cart
Once they hit 79 I was sold I was just procrastinating.
I’ll keep watching to see if they drop again. Might have to buy more lmao. But the reviews are starting to pile up so I’m wondering if inventory is decreasing. Couple that with new cells coming out next year I imagine they’re trying to clear up as much space as possible. Much cheaper and they’ll crowd out their 100ah cells
 
Could , due to expansion that will happen regardless..
Trick is to try and controle where and how much
Ok, I pulled and placed the hard plastic sheets between all the cells, I feel they were a little more compressed placing them back into the EEL case, followed Andy's advice for Seplos BMS set up and updated Ed firm ware on the EG4's. So tommorow will be get it all to full again.
 
Got mine today, noted little stickers on the box noting 308, 310, 311 and 312. I opened a 308 and 312 box and saw that the cells had been batched to the nearest Ah, cool.
They look cheaply wrapped but fine. Will box them in an EEL case when I get it.
I’ll be interested in your EEL review
 
I’ll be interested in your EEL review
In USA, I have ordered 2 of them, one holds theses cells in this thread, the other is EVE 304.
Both with 200a BMS, EVE cell fit like a glove, had to use DIY for bridge on cell 8-9( dual terminal.
The Envusion Cells do fit, mine took alot of pull here lush there, materials with battery box are good,
To everyone waiting, order bix first as either the box or the BMS will take 10 days. You will be required to email Howard at EEl to get tracking #.
Box ships UPS/Fed ex, bms ships Laser Ship. Blue tooth range is shit, mudt have dop switch set to zero.BMS us seplos 10E type.
Terminals ste revised on front,
 
In USA, I have ordered 2 of them, one holds theses cells in this thread, the other is EVE 304.
Both with 200a BMS, EVE cell fit like a glove, had to use DIY for bridge on cell 8-9( dual terminal.
The Envusion Cells do fit, mine took alot of pull here lush there, materials with battery box are good,
To everyone waiting, order bix first as either the box or the BMS will take 10 days. You will be required to email Howard at EEl to get tracking #.
Box ships UPS/Fed ex, bms ships Laser Ship. Blue tooth range is shit, mudt have dop switch set to zero.BMS us seplos 10E type.
Terminals ste revised on front,
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