Do We Need a Control Group?

"Since June 2023, 182 cases have been reported nationwide"

This, however, is timely.

Looks like 75% of vaccines were Pfizer, the rest Sinopharm and AstraZeneca. At least 2 years earlier. Need to know about GBS vs. vaccination type.


Increase not seen for Pfizer and Moderna (which don't have adjuvants, supposedly.) GBS is an auto-immune disease, correct? So adjuvated vaccines seem more likely culprit.





A colleague of my wife ended up with GBS following flu vaccine some years ago.

Hedges said:

Since this is a DIY forum, a high volume DIY air purifier:

Corsi–Rosenthal Box - Wikipedia

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Nice I was making similar versions almost a decade ago.
I used 3 filters (2 sides, 1 top) and a piece of cardboard on the bottom.
Easy and cheap but looks ugly to certain people...

I noticed it said can catch particles that carry Covid. Droplets, maybe. Those filters are not N95, may not have same effectiveness. Would like something with silver or copper coating, since that was found to inactivate virus, or small enough pores and electrostatic.

What's really needed for any filter is a measure of virus that gets through, or a test of animals getting infected. That would be more conclusive than retrospective studies that show telling population to mask doesn't reduce spread through the community when there is only 50% compliance. All we care about is whether it protects the people who care to be protected. Kind of like effectiveness of seat belts.

People simply demonstrating odors, or blowing powder out edges of mask, are not conclusive tests of what we care about. I saw one video where it was demonstrated that smoke could be blown through exhale valve of half-mask respirator - well, Duh!

You could wrap some carbon prefilter stuff around that and make the main filters last longer.

Add UV lamps, ozone generator ...

Or, make an air to air heat exchanger and ventilate with outside air.
(except in times of poor air quality, or when told to shelter in place and tape up door frames.)

I tried slapping a filter on return air grate. Suction side duct work was flexible duct, and it was pulled apart by the vacuum. Need rigid duct, or only have filter at fan.

Hedges said:

Add UV lamps, ozone generator ...

Or, make an air to air heat exchanger and ventilate with outside air.
(except in times of poor air quality, or when told to shelter in place and tape up door frames.)

I tried slapping a filter on return air grate. Suction side duct work was flexible duct, and it was pulled apart by the vacuum. Need rigid duct, or only have filter at fan.

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I have some rough carbon filtration under my return air grates ..... doesn't do as much, but keeps some of the dust out of the duct work.

I forgot all about the ozone generator I bought. Have to be careful with them... Can do alot more harm than good.

42OhmsPA said:

I forgot all about the ozone generator I bought. Have to be careful with them... Can do alot more harm than good.

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I've got a stand alone one of those that I put in a room or vehicle once in a while to freshen them up .... I put it in the crawl space once in a while and run it for several hours while we are gone ..... but yeah, gotta be careful or they can damage your lungs. I always run it when we aren't home and it has a built in timer.

I don't think the ones that are designed for air filtration put out nearly as much ozone ... but gotta be careful with ozone.

So .... are vaccine recommendations going to be modified after Pfizer funded studies show little efficacy?

As more and more people discover the truth about the Covid vaccines ...... what is going to happen?

We know that they have been keeping up a pretense that the Covid vaccines have worked great and been continuing to recommend boosters even though there is no evidence to continue the charade ..... There is growing evidence of a variety of very sever side effects ..... what happens when the charade breaks down?

A growing number of people think those in power are going to be desperate ... and that desperation my have VERY bad results.

<coarse screen on return air vent>
Probably good for hair. Change or clean often enough.

Bob B said:

So .... are vaccine recommendations going to be modified after Pfizer funded studies show little efficacy?

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3 doses were given, because 2 doses had been ineffective in testing.

The study results were that 3 doses was 12% effective, vs. 2 doses was 44% effective.
Possibly because a more targeted variant was circulating during the time after dose 2, but a variant better at escaping the vaccine was circulating after does 3, they speculated.

You'd think there would have been children who had just completed 2nd dose during same time period others had completed 3rd, to compare.

I think the pool was children being treated, not clear how they knew the size population which either got vaccinated or not, and then were possibly exposed. Can't just look at sick ones to determine how well vaccination protected. Maybe, they were just looking at Covid tests of all young pediatric patients, including checkups. Of course, we skipped checkups during the pandemic, to avoid exposure.

Bob B said:

As more and more people discover the truth about the Covid vaccines ...... what is going to happen?

We know that they have been keeping up a pretense that the Covid vaccines have worked great and been continuing to recommend boosters even though there is no evidence to continue the charade ..... There is growing evidence of a variety of very sever side effects ..... what happens when the charade breaks down?

A growing number of people think those in power are going to be desperate ... and that desperation my have VERY bad results.

Ed Dowd Makes Chilling Prediction on How the COVID Conspirators Will Cover Up Their Crimes

To avoid accountability at all costs, the people in power need to retain power — even if it takes drastic measures.

vigilantnews.com

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This freaks me out too.

What are they going to do as "they" feel their power slipping away.

Bob B said:

So .... are vaccine recommendations going to be modified after Pfizer funded studies show little efficacy?

Pfizer-Funded Study Shows Poor Effectiveness for COVID-19 Vaccine in Young Children

Three doses of the Pfizer vaccine provided little protection against emergency room visits, urgent care encounters, or outpatient visits.

www.theepochtimes.com

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It's all about the ??? - sell, sell, sell more ???

Bob B said:

As more and more people discover the truth about the Covid vaccines ...... what is going to happen?

We know that they have been keeping up a pretense that the Covid vaccines have worked great and been continuing to recommend boosters even though there is no evidence to continue the charade ..... There is growing evidence of a variety of very sever side effects ..... what happens when the charade breaks down?

A growing number of people think those in power are going to be desperate ... and that desperation my have VERY bad results.

Ed Dowd Makes Chilling Prediction on How the COVID Conspirators Will Cover Up Their Crimes

To avoid accountability at all costs, the people in power need to retain power — even if it takes drastic measures.

vigilantnews.com

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I know many who recieved 1 or 2 ?? and refuse to get any more - those who never recieved any aren't changing their minds any time soon also - it'll be a much harder sell this time around

Vaccine was done to advance "vaccine passports" aka digital biometric id that is 100% tied to a physical person. For the time being it failed thanks to resistance mainly in the continental US. (They already have the phone number as your cattle tag, but that can still be changed). You can not change your biometrics. They are still going to try to push it and slowly implement it "for your convenience" until they come up with the next crisis to make it mandatory.

Genetic experiments and depopulation resulting from the vaxx were just bonuses for them at this stage.

aenyc said:

Vaccine was done to advance "vaccine passports" aka digital biometric id that is 100% tied to a physical person. For the time being it failed thanks to resistance mainly in the continental US. (They already have the phone number as your cattle tag, but that can still be changed). You can not change your biometrics. They are still going to try to push it and slowly implement it "for your convenience" until they come up with the next crisis to make it mandatory.

Genetic experiments and depopulation resulting from the vaxx were just bonuses for them at this stage.

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This is a good point of discussion.

1) vaccines for passports

Or

2) passports to insure vaccines produce expected, guaranteed profit.

Both?

I would choose to NOT use this healthcare facility .... this is something we can do at our level. Why would I go to a facility where the management obviously has no regard for science?

It would be important to avoid exposing immune-compromised small children from such viruses.

Considering that these vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission, think they will mandate N95 masking and frequent testing?

There are many hospitals no longer requiring masking (e.g. Stanford) and many organizations prohibiting employees from masking even if they want to. I understand California prohibits employers from prohibiting masking, but that's not the case in other states.

Hedges said:

It would be important to avoid exposing immune-compromised small children from such viruses.

Considering that these vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission, think they will mandate N95 masking and frequent testing?

There are many hospitals no longer requiring masking (e.g. Stanford) and many organizations prohibiting employees from masking even if they want to. I understand California prohibits employers from prohibiting masking, but that's not the case in other states.

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I have to admit .... I don't know whether masks prevent transmission of Covid or any other virus. I have seen arguments on both sides, and both side think they are absolutely right.
I will wear a mask if mandated but won't do it voluntarily. I'm perfectly OK with other people wearing a mask in a reasonable fashion .... meaning, not outside and not in a vehicle by yourself.
I also think there are downsides to mask wearing ..... I wonder if the downsides are greater than the benefit.

I absolutely don't think the Covid vaccines are effective and are not safe. .... especially the new ones these people are mandating.
If the vaccine is mandated in order to participate in an activity ... I will either avoid that activity or go somewhere there isn't a mandate.

My defense against Covid involves maximizing my Vit D levels as determined by a blood test .... take zinc and quercitin a few times a week ... us a nebulizer treatment to kill off the virus in my nose and throat if I feel even a slight sore throat or sniffle.... or even sometimes just if I have been inside with a large group of people. In the early going, we would do a nebulizer treatment anytime we had been around other people.
So far, that has been working for my family.

Hedges said:

It would be important to avoid exposing immune-compromised small children from such viruses.

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My kids are grown-up now but I wouldn't but if they were born today I wouldn't get them vaccinated for anything at all.

I don't trust any of this stuff at all anymore.