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Terrible Signature Solar / EG4 18Kpv Experience - Returning and Replaced with Sol-Ark 15k

These Luxpower based units are entirely different from anything that has gone before and significantly better than previous offerings from Voltronics and Growatt.
However they are more complicated and you must read and understand the manual before deployment. Yes this sounds condescending but seriously at least half the inquiries here can be resolved by reading the manual and understanding basic electronics.
The EG4 group are on a mission to give much better service and support
>>The EG4 group are on a mission to give much better service and support

Are you sure?? EG4 IS Signature Solar.
EG4 is just a sticker on a Luxpower product.
I'd rather buy Luxpower from Luxpower or another distributor NOT associated with Signature Solar.
Luxpower.... are you listening????
 
>>The EG4 group are on a mission to give much better service and support

Are you sure?? EG4 IS Signature Solar.
EG4 is just a sticker on a Luxpower product.
I'd rather buy Luxpower from Luxpower or another distributor NOT associated with Signature Solar.
Luxpower.... are you listening????

@Luxpower_Gilbert

Luxpower, put them up on Amazon. I'll buy two of these new 6k ones as soon as they ready for my prime shipping.. :ROFLMAO:
 
>>The EG4 group are on a mission to give much better service and support

Are you sure??
I think they are, that's why they are diversifying and selling their products through other retailers besides signature solar.
EG4 IS Signature Solar.
I believe that recently changed. @Markus_EG4
EG4 is just a sticker on a Luxpower product.
I'd rather buy Luxpower from Luxpower or another distributor NOT associated with Signature Solar.
Luxpower.... are you listening????
Current Connected is selling the Lux Power EG4s...
 
If you had a business (Signature Solar) that was struggling to support a product like EG4, and you could sell those products as distributor to another distributor, and let someone else support the product, wouldn't that make a lot of sense? Mark the equipment up 15% over cost and ship it. Now Signature Solar has to only support the distributor who sold the EG4 equipment, not every Tom, Dick and Harry who wants solar on their roof and has room on their charge card!

That's what Signature Solar is attempting to do. I wish that Luxpower would sell their inverters in the US direct but they probably don't want to deal with the support issues. Supporting retail customers on a technical product is very difficult. That doesn't excuse Signature Solar's poor performance, but it is very hard.
 
>>The EG4 group are on a mission to give much better service and support

Are you sure?? EG4 IS Signature Solar.
EG4 is just a sticker on a Luxpower product.
I'd rather buy Luxpower from Luxpower or another distributor NOT associated with Signature Solar.
Luxpower.... are you listening????
EG4 is not Signature Solar Sir
 
If you had a business (Signature Solar) that was struggling to support a product like EG4, and you could sell those products as distributor to another distributor, and let someone else support the product, wouldn't that make a lot of sense? Mark the equipment up 15% over cost and ship it. Now Signature Solar has to only support the distributor who sold the EG4 equipment, not every Tom, Dick and Harry who wants solar on their roof and has room on their charge card!

That's what Signature Solar is attempting to do. I wish that Luxpower would sell their inverters in the US direct but they probably don't want to deal with the support issues. Supporting retail customers on a technical product is very difficult. That doesn't excuse Signature Solar's poor performance, but it is very hard.
Contact EG4 for support if needed. You do not need to contact Signature Solar
 
That's what Signature Solar is attempting to do. I wish that Luxpower would sell their inverters in the US direct but they probably don't want to deal with the support issues. Supporting retail customers on a technical product is very difficult. That doesn't excuse Signature Solar's poor performance, but it is very hard.
I remember a quote by a Chinese businessman (don't remember the name), who said something to the effect of, "the west thinks they are outsourcing manufacturing. In actuality, we are the ones outsourcing, we outsource our marketing and support."
 
EG4 is not Signature Solar Sir
Never said they were the same thing. They are clearly two different legal entities.

But apparently the EG4 LLC has the same address as Signature Solar.... see below.

Should I look to see who is the president of each corporation? I bet they know each other really, really well!

You should know that all of the legalities of Signature Solar and EG4 are public record in the US.
Its unavoidable here. Its really difficult to hide that stuff. You can, but it gets really expensive.

So don't try and bullshit me Markus. And I'm only 50% German! ;)


Party: EG4 Electronics Limited Liability Company
Address1130 Como Street South Sulphur Springs, TEXAS UNITED STATES 75482
Legal Entity TypeLimited Liability Company
Legal Entity StateTEXAS



From SignaureSolar.com​

https://signaturesolar.com/
Solar energy company in Sulphur Springs, Texas
Address: 1130 Como St S, Sulphur Springs, TX 75482
 
I remember a quote by a Chinese businessman (don't remember the name), who said something to the effect of, "the west thinks they are outsourcing manufacturing. In actuality, we are the ones outsourcing, we outsource our marketing and support."
You can't expect the Chinese to understand how to deal with the average American. Look around for a bit, I can't make any sense out of us.
 
You can't expect the Chinese to understand how to deal with the average American. Look around for a bit, I can't make any sense out of us.
Point was (if there is one), we (the west) think we are outsourcing to China (or East Asia), when it’s actually the other way around.
 
Point was (if there is one), we (the west) think we are outsourcing to China (or East Asia), when it’s actually the other way around.
Yeah, I got that. What I said works with that. They can't make sense of us, because we're nuts. So they outsource the marketing and customer support to us for their manufacturing.
 
We'll see. Mine is ordered....I've read of some issues with them as well.
congratulation sir… welcome to the happy side of life ….you now will notice days are brighter, birds are more colorfull , smartly dressed men will salute you in public and pretty girls will ask you for selfies with them..you will soon find discount coupons from resorts offering huge discounts …many new Victron owners report that they never get traffic tickets anymore…
Life is just better over here….I speak for us all when I say ,welcome my friend…
 
Never said they were the same thing. They are clearly two different legal entities.
This is mainly done to covers ones ass is case of lawsuits, bankruptcy claims, etc. Correct?
But apparently the EG4 LLC has the same address as Signature Solar.... see below.

Should I look to see who is the president of each corporation? I bet they know each other really, really well!
I think they might be twins in a mirror or something.
You should know that all of the legalities of Signature Solar and EG4 are public record in the US.
Its unavoidable here. Its really difficult to hide that stuff. You can, but it gets really expensive.
Indeed, this is great for consumers that do their due diligence before purchasing from a company... It's interesting what can be found searching for 'company name v / vs ' on the interwebs. It's helped me out quite a few times in the past.
 
This is mainly done to covers ones ass is case of lawsuits, bankruptcy claims, etc. Correct?
It is often done for multiple reasons, the primary one being that it opens up more opportunities. EG4 can sell to other distributors and not compete with Signature Solar. Signature Solar can buy and sell products beyond EG4's offerings. It is good planning to realize this when setting up the business[es].

All that said, making sure you have the sales, tech support, and other resources needed to support the complexity and volume of product up front is critical, and being too "strategic" has bit many companies in the ass.
 
Doesn't that call go to the sig solar support team? Or is there some new eg4 support infrastructure that's been put into place?
Good Question. P.S. I'm rooting for Signature Solar and EG4 even though for now I've gone a different direction. As Robert Frost said:

The Road Not Taken​

BY ROBERT FROST

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
 
>>The EG4 group are on a mission to give much better service and support

Are you sure?? EG4 IS Signature Solar.
EG4 is just a sticker on a Luxpower product.
I'd rather buy Luxpower from Luxpower or another distributor NOT associated with Signature Solar.
Luxpower.... are you listening????
You need to do what you need to do!
 
It was said tongue in cheek ..haaa… but there is merit to your comment in that I had a Rolex Submariner many years ago..it gave me grief… always having a problem ..traded it for a Marshall 100 watt full stack…and I lived happily ever after…sure .it can happen with any product.. .!
the question is , is it commonplace…
Rock on ??
 
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congratulation sir… welcome to the happy side of life ….you now will notice days are brighter, birds are more colorfull , smartly dressed men will salute you in public and pretty girls will ask you for selfies with them..you will soon find discount coupons from resorts offering huge discounts …many new Victron owners report that they never get traffic tickets anymore…
Life is just better over here….I speak for us all when I say ,welcome my friend…
Wrong color of blue....... :ROFLMAO:
 
I see that InvertersRUs sells Luxpower!


I did a search on InvertersRUs and I couldn't find anything bad said about the company on this forum.
The newest Luxpower 6K inverter looks interesting. I don't see the new Luxpower 6K on the InvertersRUs website yet.
They have been in business for 20 years apparently.
 
I see that InvertersRUs sells Luxpower!


I did a search on InvertersRUs and I couldn't find anything bad said about the company on this forum.
The newest Luxpower 6K inverter looks interesting. I don't see the new Luxpower 6K on the InvertersRUs website yet.
They have been in business for 20 years apparently.
I've bought a couple of Victron items thru them via Amazon and no problems at all.
 
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