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    srne all in one questions

    You can also restrict charging to only solar by setting config item 6 to “OSO” (“only solar”). Then if you see charging you can be sure it’s PV.
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    This turns out to be an issue also when the AIO’s inverter is operating - discovered when I forgot to turn on the input breaker after adjusting that wiring. I’ve started putting together a microcontroller to handle startup and shutdown sequencing: an esp32c3 running Micropython measures...
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    Slightly Off Topic LiFePO4 Use in Mobile Robot

    Ignoring the infrequent bursts, it sounds like you’re looking for (200A x .5 x 1h + 50A x .5 x 1h + 25A x 22h) = 675Ah/day or about 33Kwh/day. So maybe 36Kwh with a bit of reserve? That’s EV territory- at 140-150Wh/kg you’d get from lightest off the shelf LFP you’re talking 275kg or more for...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    Further testing confirms that charging during m250 bootup will consistently trigger the DC Resistance error. I bet a fully isolated charger would be fine, but my AIO and it sounds like most chargers don’t isolate DC from AC— so I’ll just ensure the two activities don’t overlap. In other news...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    I think @kundip's got me beat in terms of success & scale! Agreed. I predict we'll see plenty of used m215/m250's on the market as people update systems, but a $25 micro that's complicated and unreliable isn't such a bargain. Safe travels!
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    You've got it. I split the measurement into two parts - from the + mc4 connector to batt+ bus in between the batteries and main fuse; and from - mc4 to the negative battery bus. Sum of those values was 89.1mV at 9.47A, == 9.4mOhm. The remaining 50mOhm is my estimate of the batteries' internal...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    I'm running from batteries (3 prebuilt in parallel) attached to an existing off-grid hybrid inverter charger. The 60mOhm figure (+/- ~40mOhm) did factor in estimated BMS and cell internal resistance alongside measured cabling, breaker, main fuse, etc. Measurements were via V drop at known...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    It turns out I’d tested earlier at 200+60=260mOhm not 150+60=210mOhm. No MPPT lock at 210. At 235, I could see the inverter hunting for for a long while (~60sec) before eventually locking on; normally it’s instantaneous.
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    This afternoon I had some time to test operation without a "run" resistor (only the 60mOhm in my batteries/cables/etc): Envoy On? Boot R Run R Boot mOhm Run mOhm Boots MPPT Amps (DC Meter) I^2R inline Pwr Loss Watts (DC Meter) AC Amps Watts (AC VA) m250 DC/AC Efficiency Overall DC/AC Eff. N...
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    Chins 24V 3000W Inverter manual?

    The SmartESS cloud monitoring (uses a dongle like this to connect rs485 to wifi) is adequate. You can monitor production, consumption, etc. and also control a few parameters remotely. I’ve heard good things about Solar Assistant which has a far richer set of data capture and control features.
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    I spent time this weekend testing various values for the two resistors I'm connecting between the batteries and the m250: Rboot, connected only during m250 startup and initially 4 Ohm; and Rrun, connected at all times. The following diagram depicts the path from battery to m250: I'm tracked...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    From the system side of the main battery shutoff (behind which are only the batteries and main fuse), 110mOhm. That's with main battery switch open, main breaker closed, MC4 shorted, and a wire bridging the SSR. Batteries are connected in parallel: 2xprebuilt 24V (AmpereTime/LiTime) and one...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    I decided to go through this itemization exercise myself to understand the role of the extra resistors I’m adding. Most values from data sheets except for the bolted connections which is a WAG. And as noted in my earlier message, there are other 24V devices operating in parallel with this...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    Last night I discovered something odd w.r.t my AIO connected to the same battery bank: when AC and DC breakers are both off, DC positive (either side of breaker) and negative both show 1MOhm+ to ground. But ~20 seconds after either AC or DC is enabled and after initial AIO bootup, my meter...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    Common heat sink for the 3 power resistors, then just natural convection I hope. Cutoff is relevant should the SSR die or the switch/controller fail to enable it- either way the 4W resistor might be on at 25W for an extended period. (After 3 hours @ 9.5A, the two 100mOhm resistors hit...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    Thanks for sharing your calculations - it's great to see model and reality line up so closely.! Far too low, alas - I'm using the Thornwave 24v 80A ssr which consists of a driver and 6 parallel NTMFS5C604NL MOSFETs (60 V, 1.2 mW, 287 A). Measured voltage drop of 0.2mv at 10A == 0.2mOhm aligns...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    I had some time last night to play around with the M250's; here's what I've discovered: They will power up when connected directly to a battery, HOWEVER: These models (and iq series) perform a DC resistance check at startup, and if too low they mark themselves offline (solid red LED) which...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    ( Thanks @fafrd for the expansive summary above! I'm tied up with work/etc for a few days but will report back. Capsule version of my goals: I've got 6kw of AC coupled solar via enphase iq7; 7kwh of storage charged by an SRNE 3kw 24v AIO; hoping to set up 1-1.5KW of m250's to dynamically load...
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    Using solar micro inverters with batteries instead of panels

    I recently picked up a bunch of used m250’s for ~$15 ea, am eager to test out some of the PWM ideas in this thread. They were cheap enough that I’m not too concerned about frying one or two or five in the process. An m250 teardown video from a few years back shows 4 input caps which appear...
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    100% duty cycle 120vAC output 24vDCinput AIO.

    No personal experience, but Victron specifies 3kw continuous duty for their 24v multiplus-ii at 25C. That’s if you can keep it at 25C- with 94% efficiency, 3kw = ~180w exhaust heating; a large cool basement might be a sufficient heat sink. (Or if you’ve got the budget, parallel 2 for 3.4kw...
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    UL-Listed 3kW hybrid (off-grid) inverters?

    SRNE (OEM for PowMr, Midnite Solar, and a host of others) has ul1741 certification for their budget all-in-one units; see: https://www.srnesolar.com/blog/srne-solar-charger-inverters-get-etl-certification This thread discusses a version of their 24v HF2430U60-100 recently going for $320. That...
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    California PG&E NEM 2.0 deadline - plan submitted or operating?

    I believe CRD-PCS refers to the ul1741 utility Power Control System - if your system responds to export/import controls from the utility, storage is unlimited. Otherwise, restricted to 10kwh or below. This seems generous of PG&E — afaik SDGE requires PCS to ensure absolutely no sell-back of...
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    Alternative panel mount breaker box to the Midnite MNEDC-QUAD?

    I’m in the same spot, am considering gutting a $21 AC panel and just using the shell. The Carling breakers don’t quite fit a BR opening so a bit of dremel work will be needed.
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    LiTime (nee AmpereTime) jumping to smaller form factor

    Quick on the heels of their Ebay fire sale, LiTime's launched a new, smaller 12V/100ah battery apparently with a new BMS and now suitable for use in "Any direction mounted, even upside down.", on sale for $319, shipping 3/13...
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    Watchpower, recorded data values question

    Thanks for the extra details! It appears your system has a max VOC of 80V and should accommodate 2 of your panels in series. You might try connecting just one pair of panels in series and see if the charging behavior improves.
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    Watchpower, recorded data values question

    A few questions: first, can you link to the Amazon listing for the inverter? There are only a handful of OEM manufacturers (Voltronic, SRNE, etc) which can often be identified from the specifications, with each such base model having its own quirks. Your reference to “Watchpower” didn’t click...
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    Li Time 100ah on Ebay $255

    200ah 12&24v are still available for $500-550, just picked one up. https://www.ebay.com/itm/354324893534
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    (no longer available)

    Unused - purchased for $180 last year for a project that fell through. Willing to take $75 venmo/zelle/etc or PM me an offer; will split (US) shipping with you.
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    SOLD: Blue Sea 5502 Class T block + 225a fuse (unused, $50 obo)

    (these have been sold) I ended up going with 150A fuses which use a smaller block. Both 5502 fuse block and 5117 225A fuse are unused. Asking $50 for both including shipping within US, or make an offer.
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    Lithium CSA approved battery for Solark15k

    Sounds like they want a battery listed as UL9540 when paired with your Sol-Ark. Pytes is in the same rough price range as SOK/Jakiper and recently announced approval such: https://www.pytesgroup.com/news-detail/&5380 C$2600 for 5.12kWh from...
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    Utility Interconnection Question

    119075c “Any electrical generator, other than a generator designed to run in parallel with the system of the serving utility and approved by that utility…” must have a transfer switch. But if that approval applies to the model, and not the specific installation…
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    Utility Interconnection Question

    @Ampster for California, there do appear to be criminal penalties (misdemeanor) for connecting a parallel generator without utility approval and permission: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=HSC&division=104.&title=&part=15.&chapter=5.&article= I don’t...
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    Growatt SPF-3000TL LVM 24p -- manual recommends 2AWG wire size?

    Ref: http://www.paigewire.com/wire_resistance-prop.aspx My primary concern when choosing cable size is minimizing voltage drop during surges, and minimizing power loss (aka heat) from average current. Both are related to the cables’ resistance. 16 feet of 2awg cable will measure about 3mOhm...
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    My solar system is generating lower energy at peak hours

    I wonder if the MPPTs or inverters are periodically thermally throttling, then recovering. If you trim back the number of active strings - and thus total power through the system - do you go back to an expected parabolic power curve? Also— are any loads connected via the inverter, and do R+S+T...
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    Rock solid, no bells, 48 volt inverter

    Some have reported success pairing a 230v/50hz european quattro/Multiplus with Victron’s autotransformer, yielding US style split phase 120+120. I believe the adjustment to 60hz, 240v only involves a software tweak. It might be worth reaching out to Victron or a competent dealer (alte, naws...
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