Can Solar & Wind Fix Everything (e.g., Climate Change) with a battery break-through?

[LeoThomson]

When do you know the bankers are lying? When their mouth is moving

Central Bankers Predicted Net Zero Would Lower Inflation – and Got it Spectacularly Wrong – The Daily Sceptic

Central bankers around the world claimed the Net Zero transition away from fossil fuels would lower inflation, but new analysis from top financial services firm Nomura has found it is in fact driving it.

dailysceptic.org

 

[Checkthisout]

Yes it would. Such things do not happen in a vacuum and the leader, by definition, goes first.


I don't know about a 737, but how about an Airbus 380?

https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2022-03-first-a380-powered-by-100-sustainable-aviation-fuel-takes-to-the

Murphy, please do better when posting and give some details as to how much this particular fuel will reduce carbon.

It's probably just as dumb as ethanol or thinking that wood smoke is more healthy than natural gas.

 

[MurphyGuy]

Murphy, please do better when posting and give some details as to how much this particular fuel will reduce carbon.

I don't have any better information.. You'd have to google that.

But I can give you some advice on how to think about it...
I am of the philosophy that saving my money is a good thing and that the more I save, the better off I am. When I look at a $5 bill, I don't think to myself "its only $5 and isn't going to change anything".. nor do I think "$5 isn't enough to save so I'll just spend it".

Instead, I save the $5 because every little bit helps.

It's probably just as dumb as ethanol or thinking that wood smoke is more healthy than natural gas.

If you want to see something really dumb.. there's a guy in this forum who thinks we might contaminate the galaxy with life from our space probes.

Once again, comprehension of the big picture, as well as a scientific understanding of the details, makes a huge difference.

Most biofuels have an oxygen content within their molecular structure. When I burn straight diesel in my tractor I can see black smoke coming out of the exhaust.. even after the engine is warmed up and hot, you can see the soot. But if I mix in a bit of biodiesel, it is very difficult to see that soot.. You have to look at the exhaust plume in just the right angle with the right lighting to see it. In short, the oxygen content of the biofuel causes the petroleum fuel to burn hotter and more complete, and that's good all around.

Same thing can be seen with an oxygen acetylene torch.. The torch doesn't get hot and burn clean until you add the oxygen.

Ethanol reduces exhaust emissions because it causes the petroleum fuel to burn more completely. Ethanol also increases the combustion stability of gasoline (called Octane) by a few percentage points. This increases the performance of your vehicle in almost every respect.

Of course, if you're putting it in a lawn mower, its going to cause problems.

 

[MurphyGuy]

They literally make things up!

Federal Health Minister Karl Lauterbach Accused Of Making Up “Tens Of Thousands Of Heat Deaths”

notrickszone.com

Seriously, they put the words "truth" or "patriot" or something into the domain name of a website and it attracts the gullible like flies.

 

[Checkthisout]

I don't have any better information.. You'd have to google that.

But I can give you some advice on how to think about it...
I am of the philosophy that saving my money is a good thing and that the more I save, the better off I am. When I look at a $5 bill, I don't think to myself "its only $5 and isn't going to change anything".. nor do I think "$5 isn't enough to save so I'll just spend it".

Instead, I save the $5 because every little bit helps.


If you want to see something really dumb.. there's a guy in this forum who thinks we might contaminate the galaxy with life from our space probes.

Once again, comprehension of the big picture, as well as a scientific understanding of the details, makes a huge difference.

Most biofuels have an oxygen content within their molecular structure. When I burn straight diesel in my tractor I can see black smoke coming out of the exhaust.. even after the engine is warmed up and hot, you can see the soot. But if I mix in a bit of biodiesel, it is very difficult to see that soot.. You have to look at the exhaust plume in just the right angle with the right lighting to see it. In short, the oxygen content of the biofuel causes the petroleum fuel to burn hotter and more complete, and that's good all around.

Same thing can be seen with an oxygen acetylene torch.. The torch doesn't get hot and burn clean until you add the oxygen.

Ethanol reduces exhaust emissions because it causes the petroleum fuel to burn more completely. Ethanol also increases the combustion stability of gasoline (called Octane) by a few percentage points. This increases the performance of your vehicle in almost every respect.

Of course, if you're putting it in a lawn mower, its going to cause problems.

Murphy, more oxygen in fuel does not reduce the amount of C02 produced when you burn it.

All things being equal, it will actually increase due to more complete combustion.

 

[MurphyGuy]

Murphy, more oxygen in fuel does not reduce the amount of C02 produced when you burn it.

All things being equal, it will actually increase due to more complete combustion.

From the perspective of carbon emissions, and in the context of this discussion regarding CO2, you are mostly correct, but not entirely. (Engage technicality mode!) LOL

The hotter, cleaner and more complete combustion, means more energy is extracted from the fuel, which should result in less fuel being used, and therefor less carbon emissions to do the same amount of work, or in this case, travel the same amount of distance.

Gallon for gallon, my guess is that you are spot on.. But if it takes fewer gallons to travel a specific distance, than that results in fewer carbon emissions.

Is it significant? I know for a fact it is in particulate emissions as well as some other pollutants, but I think you're basically correct that it won't have any significant measurable effect on carbon emissions, at least not in the context of climate change.

One could argue that in some cases, certain biofuels cause more problems than they're worth. Not much of an issue with ethanol running through a fuel injected engine, but running a biodiesel mix in diesel fuel and in cold climates can result in plugged fuel filters due to the high freeze point of the vegetable oil derived biodiesel.
In addition to that bit of fun, we would also have to consider the carbon emissions that result from making the chemicals that produce the biodiesel. Methanol can be made carbon-neutral if its made from wood, but modern technology doesn't do that.. The methanol used to make biodiesel is made from Natural gas through a process called Steam Reforming, which requires its own input of energy, and thus carbon emissions.

I've run biodiesel in my tractor.. it doesn't do well in our cold Michigan winters as the high freeze point methyl esters tend to precipitate out of the diesel fuel as tiny little hair like strands.. which then plug up the fuel filter.

Ethanol also has its own problems as it doesn't play well with small engines, especially if they sit in your garage not being used all winter. I can't tell you how sick I am of rebuilding carbs..

This is mostly why we've dumped the path to liquid biofuels and have concentrated on battery storage.. The biofuels are beneficial, just not enough to make them worth while on the carbon emissions front.

 

[Checkthisout]

From the perspective of carbon emissions, and in the context of this discussion regarding CO2, you are mostly correct, but not entirely. (Engage technicality mode!) LOL

The hotter, cleaner and more complete combustion, means more energy is extracted from the fuel, which should result in less fuel being used, and therefor less carbon emissions to do the same amount of work, or in this case, travel the same amount of distance.

Gallon for gallon, my guess is that you are spot on.. But if it takes fewer gallons to travel a specific distance, than that results in fewer carbon emissions.

Is it significant? I know for a fact it is in particulate emissions as well as some other pollutants, but I think you're basically correct that it won't have any significant measurable effect on carbon emissions, at least not in the context of climate change.

One could argue that in some cases, certain biofuels cause more problems than they're worth. Not much of an issue with ethanol running through a fuel injected engine, but running a biodiesel mix in diesel fuel and in cold climates can result in plugged fuel filters due to the high freeze point of the vegetable oil derived biodiesel.
In addition to that bit of fun, we would also have to consider the carbon emissions that result from making the chemicals that produce the biodiesel. Methanol can be made carbon-neutral if its made from wood, but modern technology doesn't do that.. The methanol used to make biodiesel is made from Natural gas through a process called Steam Reforming, which requires its own input of energy, and thus carbon emissions.

I've run biodiesel in my tractor.. it doesn't do well in our cold Michigan winters as the high freeze point methyl esters tend to precipitate out of the diesel fuel as tiny little hair like strands.. which then plug up the fuel filter.

Ethanol also has its own problems as it doesn't play well with small engines, especially if they sit in your garage not being used all winter. I can't tell you how sick I am of rebuilding carbs..

This is mostly why we've dumped the path to liquid biofuels and have concentrated on battery storage.. The biofuels are beneficial, just not enough to make them worth while on the carbon emissions front.

EGR etc cools combustion. Nox is the primary pollutant they try to eliminate in modern engines by cooling combustion, SCR, direct injection on gas engines etc.

The co2 reduction resulting from the use of "biofuels" have absolutely nothing to do with how they burn in the engine.

None.

 

[MurphyGuy]

EGR etc cools combustion. Nox is the primary pollutant they try to eliminate in modern engines by cooling combustion, SCR, direct injection on gas engines etc.

I believe Nox actually increases when burning biodiesel blended into petroleum. If I remember my reading, it was the one pollutant that did actually go up a little bit.

The co2 reduction resulting from the use of "biofuels" have absolutely nothing to do with how they burn in the engine.

None.

Here you go..

Alternative Fuels Data Center: Biodiesel Vehicle Emissions

Nox actually went up.. everything else went down.

I read about this stuff back in 08 so its been a while.. As I was saying, a more efficient and complete combustion of the fuel "should" result in better fuel efficiency.. I said in my previous post "should", because I didn't know for sure.. These things can be counter intuitive. Unfortunately, my prediction doesn't seem to be the case as there is an increase in CO2 production. Strange is the word..

As the article states, the researchers had the same expectation for CO2 as I did. The only real saving grace behind it is that the CO2 from the biodiesel is mostly carbon net zero if we just take into account the fuel and not the production of the chemicals to make it. Makes me wonder now how much CO2 is produced for the production of those chemicals.

Comparison of the performance and emissions of different biodiesel blends against petroleum diesel

Abstract. Biodiesel, an alternative fuel of petroleum diesel, is mainly used to reduce the environmental impact of emissions without modifying engines. This stu

academic.oup.com

Of course, this all applies to biodiesel only.. I have no clue about the behavior of ethanol in gasoline, other than that it messes up carburetors.

 

[D71]

Climate Change fires in Australia

Post in thread 'Can Solar & Wind Fix Everything (e.g., Climate Change) with a battery break-through?'
https://diysolarforum.com/threads/c...ith-a-battery-break-through.25299/post-820207

Let’s read this USA Today news article….

””
Human-caused climate change is worsening the wildfires scorching Australia, experts say.
"Climate change is increasing bushfire risk in Australia by lengthening the fire season, decreasing precipitation and increasing temperature," according to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology.
The unprecedented fires, which have killed at least 25 people and destroyed 2,000 homes, have been burning since September. In all, about 15 million acres have burned across the country, an area roughly the size of West Virginia.
While climate change might not ignite the fires, it is giving them the chance to turn into catastrophic blazes by creating warmer temperatures, increasing the amount of fuel (dried vegetation) available and reducing water availability because of higher evaporation, according to Climate Signals.””

Climate change has Australian wildfires 'running out of control,' experts say

Climate change didn't ignite Australia's fires, but it's turning them into catastrophic blazes by creating warmer temps and increasing fuel available.

www.usatoday.com

“‘A teenage volunteer firefighter is among two dozen people accused of lighting some of the historic fires that have raged across Australia since September.
This fire season, police have taken legal action – ranging from cautions to charges –against almost 200 people in New South Wales alone. That includes 24 people charged with deliberately lighting bushfires, 53 accused of failing to comply with the fire ban and 47 accused of discarding a lit cigarette or match.
The Rural Fire Service said Blake Banner, 19, was charged in connection with seven fires in October and November in an area south of Sydney. Hundreds of fires have devastated about 25,000 square miles of southeastern Australia. “‘

Teen firefighter is among dozens accused of igniting fires that have ravaged Australia

A teenage volunteer firefighter is among two dozen people accused of lighting historic fires that have raged across Australia since September.

www.usatoday.com

I dunno looks a lot like Global warming is actually going to Arsons for the win. So no doubt arsons are causing global climate change. Are any of the Arsons also promoting climate change?

Look and read about right? Look at that last name ?


“‘’’The fire that he set merged with the raging fire of Almeda Fire. The damage caused by it is significant attributing to the one set by Change.
“It’s a great name. Now I can run for president so people can really literally ‘vote for Change’!” Change said before sniffing glue.
California Governor Gavin Newsom saw this as proof that his ideology was correct.
“When I say that Climate Change caused the wildfires, I mean it. This is proof! I have no patience for people who think that Climate Change isn’t real. Just look at him!” Newsom said.”’’’’

Arsonist changes name to 'Climate Change' so that people can say Climate Change causes wildfires • Genesius Times

PORTLAND, OR—An arsonist who has started several fires in Oregon and California has legally changed...

genesiustimes.com

?

 

[aenyc]

"You Won't Hear This On NPR or NYT": US Forest Fire Burn Acreage At Decade Lows | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Corporate media outlets frequently promote 'climate doom' narratives to their readership. Last week was a perfect example of the doomsayers working in what appeared to be a concerted effort by citing a climate model that not even the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration could validate to sound the alarm about the 'hottest days ever' on Earth.

Following the media hysteria about the world overheating and imminent climate disaster unless we give up combustion engine cars for electric ones, we were surprised that by the end of last week, The Wall Street Journal published an op-ed by environmental attorney Steve Milloy titled "Hottest Days Ever? Don't Believe It."

While The New York Times told its readership, "Human-caused climate change is making high temperatures more common and intensifying the dryness that fuels catastrophic wildfires," we wonder how devastating those wildfires have been in the US this season. If we listen to the doomsayers, it sounds like wildfires are uncontrollably spreading across the US.

However, climate change contrarian Tony Heller tweeted Sunday new data from the National Interagency Fire Center that shows since January, 25,163 wildfires have burned 702,608 acres across. These numbers are below the 10-year average of 28,459 wildfires and 2,339,013 acres burned for this time of year ending on July 7.

Heller tweeted, "US forest fire burn acreage through July 7 is at historic lows and less than one-third of the ten-year average. You will not hear this reported by @NPR or the @nytimes."

US forest fire burn acreage through July 7 is at historic lows and less than one-third of the ten year average. You will not hear this reported by @NPR or the @nytimes #ClimateScamhttps://t.co/4A3JpCSyzt pic.twitter.com/XJIO91FbIk
— Tony Heller (@TonyClimate) July 9, 2023

And Heller might be right. Corporate media will dare not share these stats because it goes against the narrative of imminent climate doom so a 'green' agenda can be ushered in.

 

[D71]

This just in


dirty . ….. damn volcano you get it greta….. .

In other news
”””
The results have been published in the article 'A carbon-rich lithospheric mantle as a source for the large CO2 emissions of Etna volcano (Italy)' in the journal Geology.
Over the geological times, variations in atmospheric CO2 depended mainly on volcanic emissions, which are difficult to estimate because they are not directly related to the volume of the magmas erupted. Indeed, some volcanoes show exceptionally large emission of CO2 when compared to the amount that can be dissolved in their magmas. Etna is perhaps the most striking example, contributing to 10 per cent (9000 tons/day) of the present global volcanic CO2 emission. That is three times more CO2 than a volcano like Kilauea (Hawaii) emits, which erupts four times more magma”’’’

Mount Etna’s exceptional CO2 emissions are triggered by deep carbon dioxide reservoirs

Magma transports carbon dioxide stored in the Earth's mantle to volcanoes, where it is released into the atmosphere. A research team now presents results obtained using a new methodology to clarify the contribution of volcanoes to natural CO2 emissions.

www.sciencedaily.com

We will win if watch dog, greta stays vigilant and on point.

 

[svetz]

The image of Greta above really makes me wonder what's going to happen in the world as deep fakes become commonplace.
I think it'll be different than the "righteous anger" most commonly seen today (I suspect it's an intentional by-product of the way the message is programmed so they repeat what they heard and take action, as others argue with them they become compelled to double-down), but I don't know if it'll go toward apathy or some new social trust mechanism.

 

[LeoThomson]

The image of Greta above really makes me wonder what's going to happen in the world as deep fakes become commonplace.
I think it'll be different than the "righteous anger" most commonly seen today (I suspect it's an intentional by-product of the way the message is programmed so they repeat what they heard and take action, as others argue with them they become compelled to double-down), but I don't know if it'll go toward apathy or some new social trust mechanism.

Some people here seem to be quite happy to encourage that self destruction. Quite sad really.

 

[aenyc]

The image of Greta above really makes me wonder what's going to happen in the world as deep fakes become commonplace.
I think it'll be different than the "righteous anger" most commonly seen today (I suspect it's an intentional by-product of the way the message is programmed so they repeat what they heard and take action, as others argue with them they become compelled to double-down), but I don't know if it'll go toward apathy or some new social trust mechanism.

You are going to have to apply critical thinking to figure out what is true and what is false. The bad is that for the last 2 generations critical thinking has been deliberately discouraged in public education system all over the world.
The good is that the last 3 years specifically have shown a large number of people that many things they have been told since childhood are false and people are starting to question the narrative and seek alternative sources for information.
This is precisely why the system is going to such great lengths to censor and limit access to information - they really are afraid they will lose their narrative because the internet is a double edged sword and the system is feeling the other edge of it.

 

[aenyc]

The Internet Is Dead. Long Live the Internet.

by James Corbett corbettreport.com July 9, 2023 Have you heard the latest? Canadians are losing their access to online news thanks to a new bill that would make tech companies liable for so much as linking to news stories. French President Macron is

corbettreport.substack.com

 

[D71]

The image of Greta above really makes me wonder what's going to happen in the world as deep fakes become commonplace.
I think it'll be different than the "righteous anger" most commonly seen today (I suspect it's an intentional by-product of the way the message is programmed so they repeat what they heard and take action, as others argue with them they become compelled to double-down), but I don't know if it'll go toward apathy or some new social trust mechanism.

I merely did what the news on your side does…. with fear porn. ‘’Greta is satire“ just like “Michael J Winkelnutface Satire.” You are taking this thread to serious. Look around you. Everything is claimed “Climate Change” if I fart the methane will be climate change that you can grade for potency.

Do you really think you can force feed everyone and them not complain?

There are 2 sides or more.

At some point you and them all of us have to realize we all co-exist. There is a tremendous amount of lying to promote climate change …. What I presented besides “ greta and winklenutface parts” are factual online reports leading to factual websites with verified arrest for the arsons. Places fact checking like Snopes skewers the truth . They build their fact on something not even being debated. That is dishonest. Their arson is was stated as false but promoted climate change. There were arrest the snopes fact check is bs and you know it. You can’t win by being dishonest. Your truth and facts will be buried ….. I think have shown that. You omit the presented truth as shown and went to the presented greta satire as the outrage. Tribal like you defend her . Sad.

Then there are suicidal dope smokers Where they fail to realize the dope is making them suicidal and overly unstable emotional.









You are on an open forum ….. you can always do an old fashioned personal journal just for yourself…. Then publish your own book for profit. Bill Gates is after all a college drop out but a climate expert, a doctor, a billionaire that bought up and owns more farms then anyone else. Yada yada yada.

BTW HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HOW, LEO SPAMS POST WHEN HE DOESN’T LIKE THE CONTENT? Basically does as he pleases. ? You have had written out post here that took time to respond and apply. We could drop bomb with meme after meme aka Leo style. Is your time and thoughts more valuable then mine? The new social trust system in play is one side accuses the other side of lying or being CONSPIRACY. That is the current score card. Again why is Leo not drop bombing your post with meme after meme but instead is here to act like a victim. Look at bob’s covid post…. As an example. Leo and Murphy had their fun. Like normal they then go to victim status and pointing the admitted dope stained fingers.

 

[aenyc]

And that's the heart of the problem. I think most of us "climate deniers" are live and let live types of people. We are not forcing people to change their lifestyle for some perceived fantasy that climate alarmists have made up for themselves. (Actually that has been made up for them and they believed it)

 

[D71]

The problem with the ELITE Ppl going to Global Climate change summits in their private jets and expensive fueled motorcades is that they represent their own concerns - money - they are there to spend our money. Just like the WEF. Just like the Who. We reject new world order …. we reject globalism …. we reject the WHO … we reject the wef …. and we reject you force feeding ppl.

We reject Svetz , murphy and leo all walking into a room by yourself having a trial, making a judgement, walking out and presenting the sentences. Sorry. We object. You are not the king….. just like the ppl that attend these meeting for climate change and wef - so on. We are not your servants. Again you are not kings. We are not willing to be the servants and financiers of your desired expenditures. To force it is theft by any other name for what you plan. the same as the group of Elite that seem to think they are our rulers.

Remember this is just a forum…. Once ppl in the World find out the GLOBAL PLANS then imagine France riots x10 around the World.

 

[aenyc]

Again and again, watch what they do, not what they say! They are all laughing at us.

Communist-style propaganda and virtue signaling were out in full force Tuesday when Spanish Environmental Minister Teresa Ribera allegedly traveled via private jet and then hopped on an electric bicycle while being escorted by gasoline-powered cars to a climate summit held by the European Union.

A video of Ribera, a member of the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party, went viral and has drawn tremendous backlash on Twitter. For the last mile of the trip, she made the journey on an electric bike to the European Summit of Environment and Energy Ministers.

The public relations stunt seems purely for show -- after all, who cycles in such attire? Furthermore, the lack of a helmet and cycling shoes is noticeable and suggests she was only on the bike for a short distance.

Watch: Virtue-Signalling Spanish Environmental Minister Bikes To Climate Conference With Escort Of Gas Cars | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

These politicians could hold a Zoom meeting rather than traveling in private jets to climate conferences. Ribera's staged photo op indicates that political elites believe the intelligence of the average voter is lacking. However, people are waking up to this nonsense.

 

[D71]

"HOE DARE YOU" "I shouldn't be here" "you have stolen my Future" den of thieves trying to steal my future. smile naive nephew this is cranky uncle. ??

My initial reaction to Greta "how dare you" lock her in a cage at the zoo and toss bananas…. she is looney tooney. At the age of 16 the majority of kids are either made or broken. She is intentionally broken and her theatrics were taught.

Don’t get mad especially my last post as that was a rendition of Greta too. ???? Imagine my pig tails Hahaha



The exact reason why most animals and humans drive their children out of homes to force them to live what they preach. All children at some point think their parents failed them think their parents are stupid. If those kids have families then they become their parents are some point with their own kids. Bahahaha haha
Wll greta have a sex change? She is the poster child for reasons to allow abortions….. 1 less idiot in this world…. Worthless eater a climate polluter of no value or substance….. look at it. When ppl like that want to suicide they should be encouraged…. No fks given.
After all it is how the Elite like Bill Gates looks at us.

 

[svetz]

I merely did what the news on your side does…. with fear porn.

I know you won't believe it, but I don't have a side. Quaesitor veritatis. I like talking about real things that are happening in the real world. I'm not saying I never get bamboozled, but I try hard not to be.

You attribute much of the discussion to contradicting things that were never said and linking it to non-relevant topics (e.g., whether the great reset is real or not doesn't validate or invalidate global warming). You see anything negative as fear-mongering. In 1/22 many said it looked like the Russians might invade Ukraine, it was called fear porn too. That's why you have to judge issues by facts, and not news-entertainment channels.

‘’Greta is satire“ just like “Michael J Winkelnutface Satire.”

The difference between us is I don't quote her (or ridiculous websites) unless someone else dragged her into the conversation by misquoting her.
I'm not perfect, but I try to stick to neutral sources and facts.

... There is a tremendous amount of lying to promote climate change ….

There are even more on the other side. That's why it's important to discuss facts and stay away from BS. If you go through all the posts in this thread, you'll see everything that points towards global warming being false has been proven to be incorrect. Those that believe it is a hoax offer no proof that hasn't been rebutted. Whereas evidence towards global warming is overwhelming. If you had creditable evidence you probably wouldn't have to resort to attacking fellow members that disagree with your point of view, satire, and making up even more lies.

BTW HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HOW, LEO SPAMS POST WHEN HE DOESN’T LIKE THE CONTENT? Basically does as he pleases.

Dude, you and others need to take a hard look in a mirror about who is spamming content they don't like. I get you don't like that global warming is real, but that's not a reason to break the forum rules.

[regarding deep fakes] You are going to have to apply critical thinking to figure out what is true and what is false.

One of the problems that will need to be overcome is the validity of facts. Critical thinking doesn't help if facts are wrong. Clever media campaigns thrive on "alternative" sites. How do you know which are real and which are fake?

For example, one of the problems around the issue of global warming is if the planet is actually warming or not. Scientific evidence shows it is, but some don't believe that evidence. Those that do believe it can still dismiss it by saying it's "natural" without regard as to whether "natural" change is detrimental or not or if anything can be done about it.

... seek alternative sources for information....

How does one judge the veracity of alternative information? You know I'm not fond of your alternative sources, the few times I've looked at them I've been able to explain why what they are saying is misleading without much trouble and I'm by no means a topic expert. To me, those sites look toxic.

 

[svetz]

Again and again, watch what they do, not what they say! They are all laughing at us.

Who is "they"?
The fossil fuel companies are the ones currently making the money. They're the ones paying for the PR campaigns to discredit the science and cause confusion. ref

These politicians could hold a Zoom meeting rather than traveling in private jets to climate conferences.

It's naive to think so. Zoom doesn't have end-to-end encryption and even if it did it could be recorded on either end. Politicians only have "speaking points" in public because sound bytes can be twisted against them. They need to have closed-door confrontations to get anything accomplished. For those interested, the U.S. secretary of state talks about it here.

 

[aenyc]

Who is "they"?
The fossil fuel companies are the ones currently making the money. They're the ones paying for the PR campaigns to discredit the science and cause confusion. ref

They are the parasite class - owners of megacorporations, various politicians who suck "their" tit, various "philanthropists" and all other psychopaths in power all over the place. They have many many names - Globalists, Club of Rome, World Economic Forum, the Davos Crowd, The Bilderbergers, but its really pretty simple - its all the folks who accumulated enormous amount of wealth by what essentially came down to shoddy practices (they are all pretty much global "elite" bankers who have used usury to make almost everyone a debt slave), and who after they got bored with just about everything else (money, drugs, sex) are now deciding to play god and decide the fate of humanity where you are a useless eater slave, and they get to shit on your head, in the open.

It's naive to think so. Zoom doesn't have end-to-end encryption and even if it did it could be recorded on either end. Politicians only have "speaking points" in public because sound bytes can be twisted against them. They need to have closed-door confrontations to get anything accomplished. For those interested, the U.S. secretary of state talks about it here.

For real? Perhaps instead of Zoom we should say teleconference, but given the nature of these debates perhaps they should be open to the public in the first place? Or do they have something to hide?
"They need to have a closed-door confrontations" - are you for real? Do you honestly believe this? Do you have a slave mentality? These politicians are (in theory) public servants, and all discussions should be in the open, for anyone to listen in and comment on! But i rest my case if you are such an inner slave!
You are again and again being intellectually dishonest!

 

[aenyc]

The Whale Killing Study the Feds are Afraid to Do

The research question is simple: What is the mortality rate of harassment for a given offshore wind project?

wattsupwiththat.com

Just like with vaccines, they know the harm they are causing, but they are not researching the harm because they know what they will find and it will not be good for their narrative at all!!!

 

[svetz]

The Four Seasons No Longer Have Equal Amounts of Months​

Before climate change started significantly altering our environment, a single year could traditionally be separated into four equal seasons: spring, summer, fall and winter, each of which lasted about three months. Today, that’s no longer the case. In the Northern Hemisphere, the four seasons don’t have an equal amount of months anymore. In the time period between 1952 and 2011, the length of summer in the Northern Hemisphere has increased, while the length of spring, autumn and winter has decreased.

Deal on Green Climate Fund Strategy​

American co-chair of the board Victoria Gunderson banged her gavel down yesterday, the boardroom in South Korea applauded and whooped. Behind Gunderson, two advisers to the Pakistani co-chair Naumann Bhatti high-fived. ... Egypt’s board member Wael Abdoulmagd told the board meeting: “If we are going to successfully contend with the climate crisis, it is imperative that the GCF be in the position to keep up with the times”.

Australia joins the G7 Climate Club​

The G7 “Climate Club” was ... put into action in 2022 by the G7 countries (that is, Germany, France, Italy, Canada, the UK, Japan and the US).... It is designed to rally governments around the world to collaborate more on urgent climate action, particularly when it comes to industrial decarbonisation, to ensure we meet the Paris Agreement target of limiting global warming to 1.5C.

Why aren’t schools teaching kids about climate change?​

poll suggested that a majority of American parents and teachers want their kids to learn about climate change. But the poll also confirmed that there is hardly any climate education in our schools: “most teachers aren't actually talking about climate change in their classrooms.”

... you are such an inner slave!...You are again and again being intellectually dishonest!

Still can't get away from attacking your fellow forum members that have an honest disagreement with you. So glad I at least posted links to references for the points made.