Crazy low prices on Aliexpress LifePO4 320A, with buyer protection?

Just John

Photon Sorcerer
Best not to go down to the scammers level but to assist those ripped off through other ways.

It seems odd that AliExpress has not responded appropriately in refunding lost money and delisting these obvious scammers.
Keep that list you made updated and maybe someone can come up with a way to get AliExpress to respond.
Someone who is a victim should probably call and report this to the FBI. Anyone who is a victim should have already filed a police report.
Anyone in Europe should be talking to their local police and Interpol (I assume).

Perhaps contacting a lawyer as well, this is organized crime crossing international boundaries. A class-action lawsuit, since Aliexpress is ignoring you would be appropriate.
 
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Choco

Solar Enthusiast
Someone who is a victim should probably call and report this to the FBI. Anyone who is a victim should have already filed a police report.
Anyone in Europe should be talking to their local police and Interpol (I assume).

Perhaps contacting a lawyer as well, this is organized crime crossing international boundaries. A class-action lawsuit, since Aliexpress is ignoring you would be appropriate.

I appreciate the suggestion, but no one in law enforcement will give a flying ..... about my scammed Aliexpress purchase.
I would be laughed out the door.
 

Just John

Photon Sorcerer
I appreciate the suggestion, but no one in law enforcement will give a flying ..... about my scammed Aliexpress purchase.
I would be laughed out the door.
Really, did you bother to try?
Many banks (credit card companies) will require it (police report).
Certainly, the FBI will be interested in people being defrauded out of thousands of dollars by organized Chinese scams.
In the USA, the FBI is who you report computer fraud to.
 

sunshine

Solar Addict
Someone who is a victim should probably call and report this to the FBI. Anyone who is a victim should have already filed a police report.
Anyone in Europe should be talking to their local police and Interpol (I assume).
Yes but Australians could get fobbed off with this classed as civil.
Australians could contact their States Consumer Affairs

What really is needed is an idea that will take off and end AlieExpress enabling these scammers-
A class-action lawsuit
An idea, but rather involved. What about something like GoFund scheme to fund the Class Action...for the publicity it might make.
 

Just John

Photon Sorcerer
Yes but Australians could get fobbed off with this classed as civil.
Australians could contact their States Consumer Affairs

What really is needed is an idea that will take off and end AlieExpress enabling these scammers-

An idea, but rather involved. What about something like GoFund scheme to fund the Class Action...for the publicity it might make.
I can tell you from working in IT.
If you call the FBI (assuming you live in the USA), they have a division devoted to this. Seriously, it's their job.
They take computer hackers stealing money very seriously. From the number of reviews on trustpilot, this is an effective and widespread scam.
People who have had this happen to them should make waves, not roll over and say "they got me". Start with a police report, then contact the computer fraud division in the FBI. It won't take that many people taking the time to do it before they notice. If they don't, contact your local television news departments, most have an "on your side" bit. Get them interested in finding out why your money is gone.
 

elvis_asaftei

Solar Enthusiast
Really, did you bother to try?
Many banks (credit card companies) will require it (police report).
Certainly, the FBI will be interested in people being defrauded out of thousands of dollars by organized Chinese scams.
In the USA, the FBI is who you report computer fraud to.

Maybe some of the 10000 orders from all planet have the possibility to start the procedures because we are a lot in EU and also USA there are many cheated and if you count 10000 orders of min $300 per order than it means the fraud amount is 3 million dollars at least.
I've been contacting ALiExpress support since August, with "chat with an agent" text to automatically trigger the agent connection, since than I think I had more than 30 opened cases with specific case ID assigned and you know what was resolved by ALiExpress since the beginning of the SCAM ? Nothing was resolved, new stores appeared each day, also with false 5 star reviews and stores was not removed since August when they got into big batteries LiFePO4 scam, before August there was a few stores that were dealing with small items bit now after they had seen the potential they are now getting 3 million dollars at least from this fraud.

So for this amount of money and high number of victims and banks involved I want to have some of the victims involved maybe they know the procedures or have someone who knows them and get this thing resolved, because otherwise that will remain there for years and each day 1000 more honest people are being scammed.

What do you all think about it ?
 

elvis_asaftei

Solar Enthusiast
I can tell you from working in IT.
If you call the FBI (assuming you live in the USA), they have a division devoted to this. Seriously, it's their job.
They take computer hackers stealing money very seriously. From the number of reviews on trustpilot, this is an effective and widespread scam.
People who have had this happen to them should make waves, not roll over and say "they got me". Start with a police report, then contact the computer fraud division in the FBI. It won't take that many people taking the time to do it before they notice. If they don't, contact your local television news departments, most have an "on your side" bit. Get them interested in finding out why your money is gone.

Yes, you had a good idea, if television gets involved things will be noticed worldwide and they will start investigating it faster.
So anyone can have the possibility of doing any of the things above ?
 

Just John

Photon Sorcerer
When you get mugged, you file a police report.
You start by filing a police report. About 10-15 years ago, the police were very cooperative and seemingly interested. I took the police report down to my credit union and had every penny back in my account by the next morning.
People who are being stolen from need to take that first step.
 

kuranaga

Solar Enthusiast
So for this amount of money and high number of victims and banks involved I want to have some of the victims involved maybe they know the procedures or have someone who knows them and get this thing resolved, because otherwise that will remain there for years and each day 1000 more honest people are being scammed.

What do you all think about it ?
these XXXXOrdersStore are popping out like mushrooms since few months. It is now hard to even find a legit store for Lifepo4 on Aliexpress.
 

kuranaga

Solar Enthusiast
Can you update that list of scam sites on Aliexpress you collated in another post?
It shows the extent of the problem and is something that others can refer to.
they create new fake shops every day, a negative-list is futile! better keep your known-good seller lists and stick with these sellers. Just do not buy from unknown stores
 

sunshine

Solar Addict
hey create new fake shops every day, a negative-list is futile!
It isn't for us, It is for others to see the extent of the problem and know how systemic it has become on AliExpress.
The popularity of LiFePO4 and the large value in a single transaction is what has attracted scammers. AliExpress hasn't recognised these factors yet. The list Elvis complies will also determine when AliExpress starts reacting.
 
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elvis_asaftei

Solar Enthusiast
It isn't for us, It is for others to see the extent of the problem and know how systemic it has become on AliExpress.
The popularity of LiFePO4 and the large value in a single transaction is what has attracted scammers. AliExpress hasn't recognised these factors yet. The list Elvis complies will also determine when AliExpress starts reacting.

The list is so long at this moment so that is pointelss to even add, now the hacker started to :
1) add fake 5 star reviews that was copied from other legit stores and the only way i figured was that an entire page had the same hour and minute and that is impossible
2) now they use also ZERO CHARACTERS NAME so there are tens of stores without any name, just to see how LAME is AliExpress checking system, including their easy to hack 4 characters captcha.
3) Use names that seem legit now, so never buy from any store that is not at least 1 year old
4) Products are duplicated, image of the products are duplicated from other stores, descriptions are duplicated. If you notice this it is also a fake store.

fake battery.jpg
 

elvis_asaftei

Solar Enthusiast
It isn't for us, It is for others to see the extent of the problem and know how systemic it has become on AliExpress.
The popularity of LiFePO4 and the large value in a single transaction is what has attracted scammers. AliExpress hasn't recognised these factors yet. The list Elvis complies will also determine when AliExpress starts reacting.
As I told you, I am sick of talking over 30 times with an agent from their support, since august when this started to affect LiFePo4 cells, nothing was resolved by them, nothing, they act like nothing is happening because they steal the money too.

Only FBI, Interpol, TV or CCP (China Communist Party) can do something about this by starting a global investigation because there are more than 10000 affected buyers from entire planet and the fraud is over 3 million dollars. I can't imagine how Europe and USA can stay blind at this fraud. Just think about this.

The problem is that you can't win the dispute without a valid evidence, so as you can see here, money was released to the hacker :

valid evidence.jpg
 

elvis_asaftei

Solar Enthusiast
these XXXXOrdersStore are popping out like mushrooms since few months. It is now hard to even find a legit store for Lifepo4 on Aliexpress.

The fake store was suspended but my money was not reimbursed ?! What about that ?

dispute supended.jpg

store does above 7899orders Store doesn't exist anymore, and replaced with a generic name, but money are taken by AliExpress, what about that :
dispute supended 2.jpg
 

Just John

Photon Sorcerer
As I told you, I am sick of talking over 30 times with an agent from their support, since august when this started to affect LiFePo4 cells, nothing was resolved by them, nothing, they act like nothing is happening because they steal the money too.

Only FBI, Interpol, TV or CCP (China Communist Party) can do something about this by starting a global investigation because there are more than 10000 affected buyers from entire planet and the fraud is over 3 million dollars. I can't imagine how Europe and USA can stay blind at this fraud. Just think about this.

The problem is that you can't win the dispute without a valid evidence, so as you can see here, money was released to the hacker :

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People have to file reports.
The money goes somewhere, I am 100% certain the CCP could find them if motivated.
 
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