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BartHenry

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I am running 12 each 12v 200ah agms wired for 48v 600ah. 2 of them just melted... I want to replace the bank with lifepo4... what would be the best replacement, I'm thinking 4 rack mount type batteries. Cost is the biggest factor
 
I am running 12 each 12v 200ah agms wired for 48v 600ah. 2 of them just melted...
How did that happen?
I want to replace the bank with lifepo4... what would be the best replacement, I'm thinking 4 rack mount type batteries.
SOK makes a solid battery, check Current Connected, they also sell the power pro but I'm not sure it's available yet.. SS also sells eg4
Cost is the biggest factor
This is where DIY come in, if you're already comfortable with series and parallel it seems like a no brainer unless you have codes and inspections to deal with.
 
I am running 12 each 12v 200ah agms wired for 48v 600ah. 2 of them just melted... I want to replace the bank with lifepo4... what would be the best replacement, I'm thinking 4 rack mount type batteries. Cost is the biggest factor
Pictures please!

What "melted"?

Often it's a terminal issue...

But KNOWING what is the cause is very wise.
 
Died is a much different description than melted.

Which is it?

How did you catch the problem?
 
What do the connections on some of the remaining good ones look like?
 
Maybe an internal cell in the AGM's died.. causing a massive current dump from the remaining batteries into the now lower voltage batteries?
 
I'm assuming those smaller wires were some sort of balance leads? Were you balancing each 48v series battery individually? Or were they paralleled and and then put into series? Three 48v batteries in parallel, or (1) 48v battery made of 3 12v batteries in parallel?

How are they wired up basically? I run 12v lifepo4s in series, but I don't run them in parallel underneath each 12v battery.

12v-12v-12v-12v (becomes 48v)
12v-12v-12v-12v (becomes 48v)
12v-12v-12v-12v (becomes 48v
48v-48v-48v becomes three 48v in parallel for 48v600ah

vs

(12v-12v-12v)-(12v-12v-12v)-(12v-12v-12v)-(12v-12v-12v) becomes (48v600ah)


Which one are you?
 
I'm assuming those smaller wires were some sort of balance leads? Were you balancing each 48v series battery individually? Or were they paralleled and and then put into series? Three 48v batteries in parallel, or (1) 48v battery made of 3 12v batteries in parallel?

How are they wired up basically? I run 12v lifepo4s in series, but I don't run them in parallel underneath each 12v battery.

12v-12v-12v-12v (becomes 48v)
12v-12v-12v-12v (becomes 48v)
12v-12v-12v-12v (becomes 48v
48v-48v-48v becomes three 48v in parallel for 48v600ah

vs

(12v-12v-12v)-(12v-12v-12v)-(12v-12v-12v)-(12v-12v-12v) becomes (48v600ah)


Which one are you?
3 banks of 48v... the first one you have listed. Each 48v bank had a balancer on it. The balancer is for 4 batteries ea.
 
3 banks of 48v... the first one you have listed
Did you have any type of balancer on them to maintain them in series? Like one of these? One for each series battery is what I would recommend.

I think it's only 5-10amps per channel though, which might not be enough for a 200amp AGM.

 
That was my thought also.
I've had multiple AGM batteries have a single cell internally fail.. on UPS's that come with small AGM's mostly. I'm sure if they had been hit with enough current they would have looked like that. But being all by themselves, there was nothing to dump that much current into them.. they just got a bit warmer and wouldn't run the UPS.
 
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