If I understand what you're saying correctly (and I may not), the problem is that if you connect the Licitti/Licittis (I now have two of them) to draw directly from the vehicle's alternator (unless the alternator is a special heavy-duty unit), it can overheat and destroy the alternator via too heavy a load for longer than the alternator is designed to sustain it. So, many of not most of us use a DC to DC charger in part to limit the draw to something the vehicle's hardware can long-term tolerate. I don't personally feel more comfortable adding more than about a 200 watt load to my not-heavy-duty alternator and I have to supply two 12-volt vehicle outlets out of this 200 watts. (One of the outlets supports other loads that have nothing to do with my Licittis.) So I use an 8 amp charger even though it's very slow. In my personal usage (but maybe not yours) so far that's plenty enough for me. I recently left home for two weeks with my two wired-together Licittis running a small 12-volt fridge 24/7, but (as an experiment) turned the charger down to 4 amps. After two weeks, including several days with very little driving, I arrived back home with about an 80% charge still in the batteries. I don't know how low they fell at the lowest point-- certainly a lot lower than 80%-- but the fridge never missed a beat. The ambient temperature varied wildly, which affects power consumption, and I don't know how to adjust for that. But for me the bottom line was that even at half my planned charge rate, for my personal usage, the setup worked and would've easily provided significant AC power as well had I desired it. My educated guess is that at eight amps of charge, a single Licitti would've sufficed. Your usage case can and almost certainly will vary.