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My diesel stove (heater with a cook top basically) gives off a sweet smell. Thoughts on what it is?

You can refill the 1lb propane bottles from a 20lb or 30lb tank, if you can store the tank at your mum's or something. Save you from installing a tank.

I wonder what it would be like using your current stove in the summer, wouldn't it get super hot in your van?
I don't know what 1lb are I guess you are in the states? In america we only have 6kg bottles as the smallest size. Given the very limited space in my van it seems underslung would be a better choice.
 
Man that's a big bite of a crap sandwich. Hopefully the seller takes care of you.

Get your money back, use that money to get one of the several electricity free options that are available, which can also be cooked on.
What several electricity free options? Or you mean for cooking? The main draw of this was that it was two in one which is still a big appeal if I could make it work. Diesel heaters are easy sure but you then also have to get another fuel source only for cooking. I do cook on the cheapo camping gas cartridge stove which is very easy but I don't want to use those little cartidges long term as they pretty undesirable in terms of waste and price although I can't fault their reliability except in cold weather hehe.
 
What several electricity free options? Or you mean for cooking? The main draw of this was that it was two in one which is still a big appeal if I could make it work. Diesel heaters are easy sure but you then also have to get another fuel source only for cooking. I do cook on the cheapo camping gas cartridge stove which is very easy but I don't want to use those little cartidges long term as they pretty undesirable in terms of waste and price although I can't fault their reliability except in cold weather hehe.


There are other options for electricity free diesel heaters with cooking options as well, you'll have to do your own research.
 
Haha oh you are the same one who got in an pissing match with the other user on my other thread :ROFLMAO:. They do indeed look interesting. I will have a look at them with new eyes but didn't we ascertain in that other thread they do actually require electricity after all? Anyway I have electrics now the question is how much it would use and the price looks attractive if these are well made devices and not the knock off crap I paid the same
amount for.

It has been warm recently, up to 13c, so the urgency has lessened somewhat and I expect. we are out of the worst of winter now since the spring flowers are coming through here in the uk.

There are other options for electricity free diesel heaters with cooking options as well, you'll have to do your own research.
 
Oh boy...got an email from thermotechnica trying to absolve themselves of responsibility right out the gate...

You will have to claim on your insurance

By all means send us some photo’s of it open if you wish

Regards

That is ridiculous. Not only is there the warranty on their website, which they are not even acknowledging from that reply but there is also the consumer rights act. Reading this article the item clearly falls under not fit for purpose.
 
Haha oh you are the same one who got in an pissing match with the other user on my other thread :ROFLMAO:. They do indeed look interesting. I will have a look at them with new eyes but didn't we ascertain in that other thread they do actually require electricity after all? Anyway I have electrics now the question is how much it would use and the price looks attractive if these are well made devices and not the knock off crap I paid the same
amount for.

It has been warm recently, up to 13c, so the urgency has lessened somewhat and I expect. we are out of the worst of winter now since the spring flowers are coming through here in the uk.
Not sure, the other guy tried to start the pissing match, I wasn't having any part of it.

You didn't even read the link I posted, it specifically says no electricity needed.
 
thermotechnica trying to absolve themselves of responsibility right out the gate...
Thermotechnica seems to be a strange setup. There is a sole director with 4 companies registered at the Thermotechnica address, and 3 other companies registered at his home address just round the corner . Thermotechnica has only traded for just over a year.
Similar issue with the glass,
 
Thermotechnica seems to be a strange setup. There is a sole director with 4 companies registered at the Thermotechnica address, and 3 other companies registered at his home address just round the corner . Thermotechnica has only traded for just over a year.
Similar issue with the glass,
Yes it did seem a young company looking at reviews on trustpilot. I guess it is just a small operation buying stuff from alibaba and reselling with a huge mark up.

I had read that thread doing my research before I bought it. I made sure to buy from a uk seller if any issues arose, which they have :ROFLMAO:.
 
Not sure, the other guy tried to start the pissing match, I wasn't having any part of it.

You didn't even read the link I posted, it specifically says no electricity needed.
Well my attention is on trying to reclaim almost a grand so that is my priority then maybe I can look to spend it on something else.

Do these things have a closed intake/exhaust chamber though like diesel heaters?
 
I don't know what 1lb are I guess you are in the states? In america we only have 6kg bottles as the smallest size. Given the very limited space in my van it seems underslung would be a better choice.
Campingaz 904 1.8kg bottles should be available in UK.
Refilling for campingaz bottles in the shop is crazy expensive but you can do it cheaply from larger 11/13kg bottles. Refill kit is 40-50 GBP and saves its price after 3 refills.
 
Well my attention is on trying to reclaim almost a grand so that is my priority then maybe I can look to spend it on something else.

Do these things have a closed intake/exhaust chamber though like diesel heaters?

When you read the specs and installation manual to see what changes you'll need to make it work for you, you tell us.

You're going to need a fundamental change in your mindset if an off-grid property is going to be even a possibility for you. Good luck.
 
Do these things have a closed intake/exhaust chamber though like diesel heaters
The combustion is room sealed but the burner is a 'pot burner '. The diesel is injected onto a gauze mat. Everaporates and ignited. Initial heat to get going is by glow plug.
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It's a variation of the model in the picture.
 
Nordic stove I linked doesn't use a glow plug.
Sorry I thought the discussion was on the diesel cook top / heater.

The pic is still valid, no vaporising mat, just a shallow tray that vaporise the fuel. The fuel metering unit is a type of carburettor that doses the burn tray. Initial start up is by burning something in the burn chamber. Some variants of this type use a small fan the improve the startup. The burnt gases vent through a chimney, usually stainless steel tube around 2 to 3 inch diameter. Biggest issue is maintaining the negative pressure between the chimney outlet and the air inlet. Sudden pressure changes due to wind direction, opening doors or windows, can blow out the flame.
Although most flue gasses are carried out by the chimney the unit has access to the burn chamber for cleaning and setting alight.

Would not recommend in a small van conversion for intermittent use.
 
Sorry I thought the discussion was on the diesel cook top / heater.

The pic is still valid, no vaporising mat, just a shallow tray that vaporise the fuel. The fuel metering unit is a type of carburettor that doses the burn tray. Initial start up is by burning something in the burn chamber. Some variants of this type use a small fan the improve the startup. The burnt gases vent through a chimney, usually stainless steel tube around 2 to 3 inch diameter. Biggest issue is maintaining the negative pressure between the chimney outlet and the air inlet. Sudden pressure changes due to wind direction, opening doors or windows, can blow out the flame.
Although most flue gasses are carried out by the chimney the unit has access to the burn chamber for cleaning and setting alight.

Would not recommend in a small van conversion for intermittent use.
Ok but it would not be intermittent. It would be daily.
 
It would be daily.
OK , these so called 'drip feed heaters' take a little time to start up, say 15 minutes before generating heat. I have one in my boat so have some experience,
It needs a chimney, minimum height 150 cm, ideal 200 cm with a suitable external cowl. Takes combustion air from around the base so great in drying out the living space. Stove and chimney gets very hot so minimum distance to surfaces , about 250mm. Not too safe in a confined space as danger of accidentally touching metal chimney.
Advantages, no electric needed. Good 'dry' heat output. Simple design.
Disadvantages, starting the 'fire' in the burn chamber is messy and time consuming, low heat is still a high heat output, needs carbon cleaned out after shutdown.
I won't recommend fitting in a small van.

Mike
 
The combustion is room sealed but the burner is a 'pot burner '. The diesel is injected onto a gauze mat. Everaporates and ignited. Initial heat to get going is by glow plug.
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It's a variation of the model in the picture.
Going back to diesel stoves now, to avoid confusion again :p do you think the internal components are complicated in this stove as in it would be hard to source replacement parts? A problem arises if this company will no longer want to deal with me because jp-parkingheaters are refusing any support or even to let me buy spare parts because I don't have a warranty with them and they tell me to contact seller directly. I don't know why I have to have a warranty to buy parts from them as that isn't a support thing, I just want parts, but that is what they are saying.

So if this company shuts the door on me that means I would not have any way to get replacement parts unless I find another reseller willing to sell them to me.

For most parts outside the device itself it seems super easy to replace with normal chinese diesel heater components. Things like fuel line, pump, control etc. For this ceramic top I think I can just replace it myself with a normal cook stove bought to custom size and the fitting seems just some sealant.

So wondering how specialised the internal components might be and if I could swap them out with generic stuff?

I was thinking how ironically I bought this to be self-sufficient using one fuel source and such however it is the opposite being reliant on a seller constantly for support. Better if it is a well known company like wallas and worst if a shaky startup like in this case.

So if I could 'mod' it myself to how I want it with widely available parts that would be great. I have read somewhere that the internal workings of diesel heaters are very simple. So would the same apply in this case meaning it wouldn't be difficult to commission any custom parts if I weren't able to find them readily available. Thinking of the long term servicing here.

For the ceramic top it seems pretty reasonable price to buy one myself for general home cooktops cut to size. Only around 60-80 pounds from what quotes I got so far. The current one seems to be fixed in just with some type of sealant so if all is as it seems it would just be a fairly simple matter of cutting the seal and dropping in a new one and resealing. I am tempted to do that rather than waiting around for the seller and it will likely be weeks on end for them to provide a replacement if they even agree.

I will give them a little longer but my just get on with it soon myself. I know the warranty would then be voided but their warranty is crap anyway charging the customer for everything including labour costs and still giving them the right to reject to replace parts. Thinking it might just be better to go it alone and get on with fixing it.
 
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Thermotechnica seems to be a strange setup. There is a sole director with 4 companies registered at the Thermotechnica address, and 3 other companies registered at his home address just round the corner . Thermotechnica has only traded for just over a year.
Similar issue with the glass,
Very strange. That link has suddenly disappeared from that forum and just redirects to their main page. I wonder if someone related to the company has google alerts setup and pressured someone to take it down.
 
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Very strange. That link has suddenly disappeared from that forum and just redirects to their main page. I wonder if someone related to the company has google alerts setup and pressured someone to take it down.
These heaters work very well,
Use a gas hob for cooking.
Just a thought !
 
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