I decided to start a new thread with a store name and all evidence in one place so people searching online will find it easier.
Ive previously purchased different cells from PWOD and this order was fulfilled fine. Then I got tempted with his plastic encased cells. I knew CALB has not made them for many years, but I thought it is "free return" so if they are bad ill send them back. Oh how wrong I was!
To send an Aliexpress item back here in Europe you click a button and Aliexpress generates a shipping label. Once an item arrives in their warehouse and the staff checks it you get your refund no matter what seller says. Great system... If your order fits into one 30kg box. If it doesn't... You're out of luck. You can request a refund, but this is a long and exhausting process (which I now completed after almost 3 months).
So, to the matter at hand. This is the store and the order
The condition of the cells was described in detail in my other thread. 6 out of 8 were swollen, one had a huge crack from swelling (shipping box undamaged) and I could smell the electrolyte leaking when the courier opened his van door to hand me a closed box!
All had horrible DC internal resistance meaning discharging at let's say 0.25C (50A in this case) would immediate drop the voltage of fully charged cells below 2.9V!
Amazingly they all had AC IR in spec. So beware of basing your testing only on that.
And capacity wise they measured between 121AH and 128AH.
Also all serial numbers were fake (same barcode on all). And I found threadlocker in the threads. So definitely used - a lot.
Here is some evidence that should accompany such thread.
Also an additional thing to point out was ridiculous explanations given by the scammer, his very drawn on delaying tactic and so on.
Some of the highlights:
Q: cells are swollen and one is cracked.
A : they swell in transport, please don't worry and use a compression fixture. They will be flat after some cycling
(doesn't address the crack at all, then sends $5 worth of coupons to hide that conversation from latest history). When pressed on the broken one offered a refund just for this one cell.
Q: Capacity measures extremely low!
A: Don't worry, they need exercising, it will grow in time. That's normal.
When pointed out it's a lie after about a month of pestering offered to give 20% capacity discount, and a refund for broken cell. What am I supposed to do with 7 swollen cells? Buy another one from him? Of course I disagreed. But I offered if he gives 50% refund right now I'll close this and not look back. He seemed to agree, but never sent the money. Then saulid he will agree if Aliexpress offers 50% refund as a part of their dispute. I only offered 50% as an option to stop time wastage. If I'm going to wait for Aliexpress I want 100% (and I got it - minus shipping which was less than 10%).
Also he replied to the Aliexpress dispute with photos of his "cell testing" rack. How his cells should be judged based on performance not stickers on them and how I never provided any measurements based evidence (at this stage I've already added 20+ photos, 4 videos and countless manufacturer datasheet excerpts showing these are essentially end of life).
In the end I got the money back, but probably 99% if people would get tiered, angry and left. The thing is this sum of money is not that important to me so I could literally afford to play this game with him for almost 3 months. If I really needed this money hard the whole ordeal would wear me down badly to the point I probably would have started making mistakes (one Aliexpress customer service told me "everyone is very mean" to them) or drop this process altogether.
So here you have it. For archival purposes. PWOD Official - still a scammer despite gold badge on Aliexpress.
Also he has at least 5 more stores registered. You can recognise them by the products as well as very similar registration detail (different person and address used every time, but similarity is hard to miss).
Ive previously purchased different cells from PWOD and this order was fulfilled fine. Then I got tempted with his plastic encased cells. I knew CALB has not made them for many years, but I thought it is "free return" so if they are bad ill send them back. Oh how wrong I was!
To send an Aliexpress item back here in Europe you click a button and Aliexpress generates a shipping label. Once an item arrives in their warehouse and the staff checks it you get your refund no matter what seller says. Great system... If your order fits into one 30kg box. If it doesn't... You're out of luck. You can request a refund, but this is a long and exhausting process (which I now completed after almost 3 months).
So, to the matter at hand. This is the store and the order
The condition of the cells was described in detail in my other thread. 6 out of 8 were swollen, one had a huge crack from swelling (shipping box undamaged) and I could smell the electrolyte leaking when the courier opened his van door to hand me a closed box!
All had horrible DC internal resistance meaning discharging at let's say 0.25C (50A in this case) would immediate drop the voltage of fully charged cells below 2.9V!
Amazingly they all had AC IR in spec. So beware of basing your testing only on that.
And capacity wise they measured between 121AH and 128AH.
Also all serial numbers were fake (same barcode on all). And I found threadlocker in the threads. So definitely used - a lot.
Here is some evidence that should accompany such thread.
Also an additional thing to point out was ridiculous explanations given by the scammer, his very drawn on delaying tactic and so on.
Some of the highlights:
Q: cells are swollen and one is cracked.
A : they swell in transport, please don't worry and use a compression fixture. They will be flat after some cycling
(doesn't address the crack at all, then sends $5 worth of coupons to hide that conversation from latest history). When pressed on the broken one offered a refund just for this one cell.
Q: Capacity measures extremely low!
A: Don't worry, they need exercising, it will grow in time. That's normal.
When pointed out it's a lie after about a month of pestering offered to give 20% capacity discount, and a refund for broken cell. What am I supposed to do with 7 swollen cells? Buy another one from him? Of course I disagreed. But I offered if he gives 50% refund right now I'll close this and not look back. He seemed to agree, but never sent the money. Then saulid he will agree if Aliexpress offers 50% refund as a part of their dispute. I only offered 50% as an option to stop time wastage. If I'm going to wait for Aliexpress I want 100% (and I got it - minus shipping which was less than 10%).
Also he replied to the Aliexpress dispute with photos of his "cell testing" rack. How his cells should be judged based on performance not stickers on them and how I never provided any measurements based evidence (at this stage I've already added 20+ photos, 4 videos and countless manufacturer datasheet excerpts showing these are essentially end of life).
In the end I got the money back, but probably 99% if people would get tiered, angry and left. The thing is this sum of money is not that important to me so I could literally afford to play this game with him for almost 3 months. If I really needed this money hard the whole ordeal would wear me down badly to the point I probably would have started making mistakes (one Aliexpress customer service told me "everyone is very mean" to them) or drop this process altogether.
So here you have it. For archival purposes. PWOD Official - still a scammer despite gold badge on Aliexpress.
Also he has at least 5 more stores registered. You can recognise them by the products as well as very similar registration detail (different person and address used every time, but similarity is hard to miss).
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trolling hard aren't you? Or do you actually believe what you say? I saw your similar "victim shaming" replies on other threads of people posting about scams. Perhaps that's why there has been not many such posts on this forum while the scammers-bonanza is at full swing at European Aliexpress.
