MrM1
I'm Here, But I'm Not All There
Which is why I loves me some midnite solar product. They don't need warranties, but have them and will stand behind them.
haha seriously! its like car parts....I care less about a stated warranty. I have learned the hard way of a lot of products that boast lifetime or 10 year warranty, that just turns out to be a crap product that you end up replacing several times, or they don't hold up the warranty because of some stupid fine print sh*t.
I do NOT buy a product based on the warranty, but rather the quality of the product, in hopes I never have to use a warranty. Same goes for a lot of things, cars/trucks/trailers/TV's, etc.
I believe that is two years?can't find anything on warranty information for one of their higher end charge controllers:
you're compairing apples to pearsI saw an youtube once touching on that stuff
Epever performed well in the vid. Much better than some aio pwm. The top shelf stuff did well.
I think it’s more of a reflection on the software than on the hardware. I’m not sure but the hardware I would guess is superior with substantial longevity on the Duesenberg level products.
I wish I could find that vid but nope.
No, just a mention that the vid guy I recalled had “tested” a couple pwm AIOs as well. Not a comparison. I couldn’t find it when I looked.you're compairing apples to pears
MPPT vd PWM
Man, I got a non-contact voltage tester as a freebie once. It was a plastic tube, with an unpopulated, unmarked, uncut, blank PCB, a piece of glass instead of an LCD, and there were no connections inside. It never worked, and was never supposed to. It was completely a dummy product. It even had a cutout to insert batteries, that wasn't actually cut out, just a line on the plastic. ?I'm sure there's chinese crap out there that doesn't perform anything like how it's supposed to (they sent me a battery charger once that was just a nice looking case filled with plastic inside and no electronics )
I have seen a video where someone has a few controllers hooked up to panels and they watch how fast the controller can sweep and track. Not sure if they had any chinese stuff but midnite did seem to perform wellAgain guys, we all know a quality American made product will last longer. The purpose of this thread was to find out if a quality MPPT SCC produced more PV per day than a cheaper MPPT SCC.
The general consensus is they should be the same, but still no factual evidence. Maybe when I have some extra time and money I'll buy a smaller Victron MPPT and an EPEver and compare.
The Midnight Classic has by far the best sweep algorithms.....I have seen a video where someone has a few controllers hooked up to panels and they watch how fast the controller can sweep and track. Not sure if they had any chinese stuff but midnite did seem to perform well
I remember a video he's standing at the back of his RV with several SCCs and several different panels during testing. @Will Prowse can you confirm?Is this the video referenced re Will Prowse?
Victrons are made in india and have multiple power point tracking. Still doesn't improve a thing for most people. Midnight sweep algorithm is nice, but most won't notice a difference at all. And many others on the market today sweep quite quickly. Even the cheap ones. This was not true a few years ago.The Midnight Classic has by far the best sweep algorithms.....
AFAIK.....none of the Chinese units have multiple sweep algorithms
Yes agreed! I would buy a high quality MPPT for just this reason alone. Having a charge controller fail is no fun. Buying a midnite/victron etc gives great piece of mind.haha seriously! its like car parts....
With any MPPT I think you'll net similar results, but at the end of the day, Id rather have the piece of mind using a Victron on $4+k worth of battery. then cheaping out and risk a component failure sending panel voltage to the pack.
Can you post evidence of a morningstar performing better than the others? And specifically why it performed better?In a real world test the Morningstar outpreformed all comers, but they were only 1-2% better than the others in the test.
The others were the Midnight Classic and the Outback
All 3 were designed in America!
2 of them were manufactured here!