SRNE 12kW IP65 HES and 10kW ASP

[42OhmsPA]

ASP is the parallel ASF.
Datasheet and Manual attached. Manual appears to be the same thing @Bushbeast shared earlier.

DDP quote coming tomorrow, this storefront replied and mentioned they were on holiday like @OffGridForGood mentioned above.

Xi 'an Borick intelligent Technology Co., LTD - inverter, MPPT controller

Xi 'an Borick intelligent Technology Co., LTD, Experts in Manufacturing and Exporting inverter, MPPT controller and 0 more Products.

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This is the same storefront my ASF shipped from mentioned here, Post in thread '3 MWh SRNE ASF48100U200-H 10kw.' https://diysolarforum.com/threads/3-mwh-srne-asf48100u200-h-10kw.67809/post-863909

 

[42OhmsPA]

ASP is the parallel ASF.
Datasheet and Manual attached. Manual appears to be the same thing @Bushbeast shared earlier.

DDP quote coming tomorrow, this storefront replied and mentioned they were on holiday like @OffGridForGood mentioned above.

Xi 'an Borick intelligent Technology Co., LTD - inverter, MPPT controller

Xi 'an Borick intelligent Technology Co., LTD, Experts in Manufacturing and Exporting inverter, MPPT controller and 0 more Products.

x.alibaba.com

This is the same storefront my ASF shipped from mentioned here, Post in thread '3 MWh SRNE ASF48100U200-H 10kw.' https://diysolarforum.com/threads/3-mwh-srne-asf48100u200-h-10kw.67809/post-863909

Received a reply with pricing from the storefront linked above.


Also a reply from the SRNE storefront.
Hmmmmmm

 

[TK1979]

Received a reply with pricing from the storefront linked above.
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Also a reply from the SRNE storefront.
Hmmmmmm
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That's reasonable - Wow!

 

[RobbyK]

Received a reply with pricing from the storefront linked above.
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Also a reply from the SRNE storefront.
Hmmmmmm
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Wow $875

 

[42OhmsPA]

That's reasonable - Wow!

Wow $875

Yea, I was a bit surprised as well.
I'll ask for some more info on the 12k HES model before I order.

 

[Mattb4]

Yea, I was a bit surprised as well.
I'll ask for some more info on the 12k HES model before I order.

I expect some miscommunication is happening and that price is for parallel capable 230vAC Euro models.

 

[42OhmsPA]

I expect some miscommunication is happening and that price is for parallel capable 230vAC Euro models.

Possibly. I'll make sure details are correct before paying any invoices. The documentation sent that I linked above is for split phase 240V US.

I know I need 2 in parallel; I could easily overload my ASF when the dryer is running. Load management is no fun when the suns out...

 

[bigbrovar]

I recently got the SRNE HESP version (which seems to be the HES version with Parallel support hence the P)

My unit is 6kw but also IP65 rated.

Attached is the internal. Opened it up to have a look see. Particularly the capacitors.

My units used Lelon caps which aren't highly rated

 

[TK1979]

I recently got the SRNE HESP version (which seems to be the HES version with Parallel support hence the P)

My unit is 6kw but also IP65 rated.

Attached is the internal. Opened it up to have a look see. Particularly the capacitors.

My units used Lelon caps which aren't highly rated

Very interesting - how many did you get?

 

[42OhmsPA]

I recently got the SRNE HESP version (which seems to be the HES version with Parallel support hence the P)

My unit is 6kw but also IP65 rated.

Attached is the internal. Opened it up to have a look see. Particularly the capacitors.

My units used Lelon caps which aren't highly rated

Interesting.
Any idea if Lelon has different grades?
I did some brief duckduckgoing and found this, Looks familiar

Looking forward to seeing more feedback.

 

[bigbrovar]

Very interesting - how many did you get?

Just 1. It became available in my country just when I was thinking of upgrading my inverter. I was attracted by the IP65.

Currently trying to do some research on the type of capacitor used on the inverter to try and gauge how long it can go.

 

[bigbrovar]

Interesting.
Any idea if Lelon has different grades?
I did some brief duckduckgoing and found this, Looks familiar

Looking forward to seeing more feedback.

Lol. Yeah trying to find as much as I can about the internal component. Not particularly useful to me since I already have the inverter but might to useful to anyone who is undecided.

 

[42OhmsPA]

Lol. Yeah trying to find as much as I can about the internal component. Not particularly useful to me since I already have the inverter but might to useful to anyone who is undecided.

I'm tempted to pull the cover off my ASF and see what's inside. I know I've been very happy coming up on nearly 4mWh.

@Lighthouse Beacon did you open your SGP up?

 

[42OhmsPA]

Lol. Yeah trying to find as much as I can about the internal component. Not particularly useful to me since I already have the inverter but might to useful to anyone who is undecided.

2nd post is reassuring.

 

[Zwy]

I recently got the SRNE HESP version (which seems to be the HES version with Parallel support hence the P)

My unit is 6kw but also IP65 rated.

Attached is the internal. Opened it up to have a look see. Particularly the capacitors.

My units used Lelon caps which aren't highly rated

I'm certainly not an expert concerning caps but with limited research you can find some that say quality is OK, next person says junk, another says the Lelon polymer caps don't fail, another says it depends given the application such as primary or secondary.

Whether the quality is similar to Lucas (The Prince of Darkness) it might be better or worse. Only one way to find out, testing and real world usage.

 

[bigbrovar]

I'm certainly not an expert concerning caps but with limited research you can find some that say quality is OK, next person says junk, another says the Lelon polymer caps don't fail, another says it depends given the application such as primary or secondary.

Whether the quality is similar to Lucas (The Prince of Darkness) it might be better or worse. Only one way to find out, testing and real world usage.

Agreed absolutely.
My next search is to see the exact caps used. I am unable to get the model number (maybe I am searching wrong) it would be nice to see the actual specification particularly the lifespan. So far it looks like 2000 hours which is in the lower end of lifespan considering some get as high as 10,000. Still searching.

 

[42OhmsPA]

@Hedges do you have any insight on Lelon caps?
Photos

 

[bigbrovar]

Some good news.
I found specs for 1 of the capacitors used (I think for the battery / DC side of things given it is rated 63v)
It has a lifespan of 10,000 hours which seems to be the industry standard for quality caps.
It is made by "Samyoung" a Korean company with close relationships to Nippon.
Specs is here https://jlcpcb.com/partdetail/2975108-NXA_63V_2200UF_1840/C2827938

 

[Lighthouse Beacon]

I'm tempted to pull the cover off my ASF and see what's inside. I know I've been very happy coming up on nearly 4mWh.

@Lighthouse Beacon did you open your SGP up?

 

[Hedges]

@Hedges do you have any insight on Lelon caps?
Photos

I'm no component expert. Some of the other guys here designing things may be more familiar.

I did once take apart a failed set-top box, saw bulging electrolytic capacitors. Quick Google and I learned about Capacitor Plague.
In my work I've learned about ripple current causing heating, capacitance changing with voltage, self-inductance/resonance, etc.

I try to pick what I need from DigiKey's parameter screening (manufacturer's web page sometimes better) and reading data sheets.