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Sungoldpower 4000W x 2 + 15kwh Lifepo4

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I have to run 4 Cambro food warming/cooling units (1450W actual draw, 1750W on label) in a box truck, sometimes all at once, sometimes for 2 hours. They are 120V, resistive loads. Rarely, all 4 will kick on at once so total load could be as high as 5800 Watts intermittently (225 amps at 26V).

I also need to be able to charge the batteries from standard 120V 15A shore power outlets, sometimes during freezing winter temps.

So I installed a pair of Sungoldpower 24V 4000W 120V low frequency inverter chargers and 4 300ah LPFMax 12.8V lifepo4 batteries, wired in 2S2P for 24V 600ah total, 15.36kwh.

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That is way more capacity than I need but I need enough BMS to run that 225amp load. These batteries have 200amp BMS with bluetooth and heating, since there are 2 banks in parallel that is good for about 400 amps and easily handle a 225 amp load. The BMS shows up the My-BMS and also the Xiaoxiang ap. I tested each inverter with a 3300W load and there was almost no voltage drop on the AC or DC side (119V and 13.2V). I told the ap they are in parallel just so I could monitor all 4 at once but they are actually in 2S2P. You can see that one set has a lower resistance than the other, because they came from 2 different batches but it's close enough and they all top balance very well.

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On the DC side I used a 300amp class T fuse and 2 awg welding cable. I used a hydraulic crimper with thick copper lugs, flattened the lugs and the battery terminals with a file. The maximum current in any cable will be 112 amps intermittently and the longest run is 2 feet.

On the AC side I used marine grade cable for the charger port wire and white 120V Journeyman power inlet. On the inside I used 2 runs of 12 gauge thwn in a pair of 1/2" conduit, one set of 12 gauge for each outlet. The outlets are commerical grade, mounted in heavy duty 4" steel boxes.

I mounted the control panels in the cab. Made some custom length flat ethernet cables to run into the inverters.

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I set the inverter dip switches for AC priority and 3 second power sense for power saver function. I set one inverter for the lifepo4 charging profile (28V 1225W) and turned off the charger on the other unit. It pulls 1500W 14A from the outlet when charging at maximum (.89pf). The batteries report they are taking in 1250W but when I clamped the DC side of the inverter I measure 1200-1225W. So charging efficiency is about 81% if you don't penalize for power factor.

I attached the battery temp sensor to the inverter so it won't charge if the truck is cooking in the sun with the door closed. They act like greenhouses because the roof is just a sheet of white fiberglass and iR can radiate through.
 

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A few imperfections worth mentioning, the second set of batteries might be smaller capacity because it has higher resistance and on top of it needed balancing because of a few runner cells hitting 3.75V when the pack was only at 13.9V. So I used the Xiaoxiang ap and turned off "charge balance" setting so it would passive balance (150ma) while just sitting and the cells were at 3.45 to 3.65 range. A few days of that and now the cells are much closer and have no problem getting the pack up to 14.4V without any runner cell problems.

The first set of batteries didn't seem to have foam on the inside sides because when I tipped the batteries sideways the whole lump of cells/BMS could shift a few inches inside the case. That's probably super not cool but they don't shift easily you really have to tip them 90 degrees so it won't be a problem in practice.

I haven't got a chance to test the heating function yet, it is supposed to kick on if you apply charging when temp is below 32F, heats up to 50F and then allows charging the cells

The inverter's power save mode (3 seconds between power sense) works awesome to cut down on standby power. Every 3 seconds your hear a quick hum and if it sense a load above 25 watts it kicks on. The 30 second setting doesn't seem to work though (dipswitch #3) not a biggy at all but worth mentioning. The slight hum every 3 seconds might be an issue in an RV though.

The inverters also hum when I apply a 650W load but goes away at 1300W and above. Putting my hand on the side of cases silences it for the most part. I'll experiment more and try to figure out what wattage range it happens most and if I can silence it.

One inverter had a significant dent on the side with a spot of paint missing and slight rust of the bare steel. There was no shipping damage on the box and the inverter was packed very well so I can only assume it was a return or damaged at the factory. I will contact Sungoldpower about this but it is already installed and I need it now. If they offer a discount or send a replacent casing I will update the post. Another small thing that won't affect anything in practice but for some people this kind of stuff could be a deal breaker.

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I'll update this post once I get a chance to test the inverter efficiency. The manual claims 88%. I'm curious about standby power when inverter is "on" with no load and also when power saver mode is scanning every 3 seconds.

I am also curious if the standby power consumption "goes away" somewhat when a load is applied. In other words what is the minimum to load to reach the 88% efficiency spec.

Any safety suggestions or questions are welcome. Thanks for reading
 
Looks great and love seeing other ways these systems can be used.

Do you pull any power from alternator?
 
I didn't set anything up for alternator charging but a 12V to 24V would be a cool addition. For now it's a 120V 15A AC inlet on the driver's side.

When I was working on balancing the system I temporarily threw a couple blemished 365W Rec Alpha panels on the roof, in parallel with an iPandee style 60A MPPT. Even at a slight angle the panels produced awesome power and in one partly cloudy day grabbed 2.8kwh. The MPPT was 92-93% efficient and the batteries took the charge evenly as could be expected while unbalanced. I bet a system like that could keep this truck topped off indefinitely so maybe a project for next time.
 

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