Dr Strangetroll : or how I learned to stop arguing and be amused by the intransigence

[Cdkipp]

A lot of doctors have come out questioning the risk/benefit of vaccinating young children. I mean, a LOT. Im all for following the science, whats it say for vaccinating 4 yos? Whats their fatality rate for covid?

There is NO APPROVED VACCINE FOR 4-year-olds.

IF they get one approved then we can look at those trials and safety data. You and the other conspiracy theorists constantly talk about mandates that don't exist and create every other type of logical error conceivable. I honestly have no idea how any of you even get online? Do you have home health aides?

 

[A.Justice]

That is not how it works, I earned my money as an electrician, that does not mean that alternating current does not exist.

There's plenty of tradesmen out there who either make up, or make problems to fix for more money too.

 

[Batvette]

Okay, you try charging the president and see how it works out for you.

Sorry, you can't break down the doors of Congress screaming you want to kill the Speaker of the House and hang the Vice President.

They could not allow that door to be breached until everyone was to safety.

Do you honestly think you can try to kidnap an elected US official and not get shot by bodyguards? How insane are you? Don't answer I know.

Who got even remotely close to kidnapping an official? What does that have to do with ashley babbit who is not on record as saying any such thing or any such intent?
Law enforcement does NOT have any policy directives to open fire randomly on unarmed persons not posing a direct threat to them.

 

[A.Justice]

Oh well that is not really true. I could not control you more.

Okay buddy.

 

[Batvette]

There is NO APPROVED VACCINE FOR 4-year-olds.

IF they get one approved then we can look at those trials and safety data. You and the other conspiracy theorists constantly talk about mandates that don't exist and create every other type of logical error conceivable. I honestly have no idea how any of you even get online? Do you have home health aides?

Lets get back on topic. You belittled him for suggesting to his physician son that endless boosters for children are unnecessary. Suggesting that only "hillbilly, conspiracy raddled, utility worker. fathers" would take such a position is idiocy.
The very fact a vaccine for four year olds has not yet been developed proves it isnt necessary.

 

[bradbill]

I wont deny being wrong about some things, but that was a dozen years ago and certainly not posted here.

Oh...so you only USED to believe in conspiracy theories...not anymore?

You still believe in the chemtrails and the artificial clouds that create magnetic interference?

You believe that tRump said that Ted Cruz rigged a primary in 2016?

You believe that tRump said the Emmys was rigged that he wouldn't win an Emmy with the Apprentice?

 

[Johnson]

Lets get back on topic. You belittled him for suggesting to his physician son that endless boosters for children are unnecessary. Suggesting that only "hillbilly, conspiracy raddled, utility worker. fathers" would take such a position is idiocy.
The very fact a vaccine for four year olds has not yet been developed proves it isnt necessary.

Super capacitors are not commercialy available, does that mean that they are not necessary?

 

[Cdkipp]

Lets get back on topic. You belittled him for suggesting to his physician son that endless boosters for children are unnecessary. Suggesting that only "hillbilly, conspiracy raddled, utility worker. fathers" would take such a position is idiocy.
The very fact a vaccine for four year olds has not yet been developed proves it isnt necessary.

It doesn't prove that at all. They have it in trials and are working on the dosing. Read a paper. It helps.

You are new on this thread. BMcl is in fact from the Tennesse hills outside of Nashville. He is a utility worker for the water company. He believes in multiple conspiracy theories and repeats them here often.

 

[Cdkipp]

Oh...so you only USED to believe in conspiracy theories...not anymore?

You still believe in the chemtrails and the artificial clouds that create magnetic interference?

You believe that tRump said that Ted Cruz rigged a primary in 2016?

You believe that tRump said the Emmys was rigged that he wouldn't win an Emmy with the Apprentice?

Right he doesn't believe in conspiracy theories except that Trump won the election, January 6 was peaceful and vaccines don't work. Other than that he is the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

[Cdkipp]

There's plenty of tradesmen out there who either make up, or make problems to fix for more money too.

Just because you are a felon does not mean the rest of the world is amoral.

 

[Johnson]

Lets get back on topic. You belittled him for suggesting to his physician son that endless boosters for children are unnecessary. Suggesting that only "hillbilly, conspiracy raddled, utility worker. fathers" would take such a position is idiocy.
The very fact a vaccine for four year olds has not yet been developed proves it isnt necessary.

Super capacitors are not commercialy available, does that mean that they are not necessary?

 

[Cdkipp]

Super capacitors are not commercialy available, does that mean that they are not necessary?

I am sure it does. The cure for all cancers is not available. Obviously, not necessary.

 

[noenegdod]

I am sure it does. The cure for all cancers is not available. Obviously, not necessary.

The cure for most cancers is available, the vast majority of the population is just to lazy and hedonistic to implement.

 

[Batvette]

Oh...so you only USED to believe in conspiracy theories...not anymore?

You still believe in the chemtrails and the artificial clouds that create magnetic interference?

You believe that tRump said that Ted Cruz rigged a primary in 2016?

You believe that tRump said the Emmys was rigged that he wouldn't win an Emmy with the Apprentice?

Why are you fabricating things Ive never commented on?

Why dont you stick to what Ive posted here instead, which is that:

1, solid, verifiable evidence exists that the 2020 election was rigged, I provided a link to support that.

2, thusly, Donald Trumps claims prior to and on jan 6 were not baseless as the media claims still today.

3, consequently, the rationale you used to vote against him is just plain wrong but youd rather spend time trying to dig up things about me on the internet rather than admit your side cheated to put an inept moron in charge who would destroy the country for a few million future democrat votes.

I dont think youre a republican or ever were.

 

[Cdkipp]

The cure for most cancers if available, the vast majority of the population is just to lazy and hedonistic to implement.

Oh shut up.

 

[MurphyGuy]

A lot of doctors have come out questioning the risk/benefit of vaccinating young children. I mean, a LOT. Im all for following the science, whats it say for vaccinating 4 yos? Whats their fatality rate for covid?

Questioning the risk/benefit for children is a legitimate concern.. Questioning it for adults is also a legit concern.. The difference is that adults can be persuaded to volunteer for clinical trials and are informed about the risks.. vs. Children who wouldn't understand the risk even if you explained it to them.

 

[Batvette]

Super capacitors are not commercialy available, does that mean that they are not necessary?

If four year old children were dying for lack of them there would be an all out effort to have them.
In other news the sky is blue and water is wet.

 

[noenegdod]

Oh shut up.

Weak and pathetic as usual.


Lets see if you have the balls to actually answer this:

There is NO APPROVED VACCINE FOR 4-year-olds.

IF they get one approved then we can look at those trials and safety data. You and the other conspiracy theorists constantly talk about mandates that don't exist and create every other type of logical error conceivable. I honestly have no idea how any of you even get online? Do you have home health aides?

If Covid 19 is so transmissible and we are going to keep running into it, why are we now talking about boosters, especially for kids. Every time you run into it is a booster in and of itself.

 

[Bob B]

I don't think vaccine hesitancy in the population has much to do with politics. I DO think the politicians try their best to make it that way.

Sometimes it amazes me how short people's memory can be when they get blinded by ideology and are fed a steady diet of biased news. So many actually believe it is all Trumpians ... probably not a word .... and conspiracy theorists who are vaccine hesitant. Please go back and watch the presidential and vice presidential debates to see who the original antivaxxers were.
If Trump had won the election, all we would be hearing from them is how unsafe the vaccine is because Trump rushed it thru ..... I am truly amazed when people can't see the reality of these things.
I am also amazed how effective democrats are at framing this as a problem of the Trump followers.

It's the same way they have convinced so many that the republicans are the racists .... I guess those focus groups really do teach them how to create an effective lie and parse words in a way that bring the sheep along.

For me, this is not a one size fits all decision. I am 74 and my wife is 69 .... It was a no brainer for us to get vaccinated .... not so much of a no brainer to get boosted, but we did. With the vaccine efficacy waning with each new variant .... and known risks from the vaccine come more into focus each day .... it is unlikely we will go any further down that path.

I find it totally unacceptable that the vaccine is being forced on population groups who don't really need it .... with the risk vs benefit so obscured by a poor reporting system that it's nearly impossible to know the long term effects of this.
I also find it unacceptable that we are this far down stream and therapeutics and early treatments are still not in wide spread us ... even when studies prove repurposed drugs highly effective. In this case I'm talking about Fluvoxamine.... How many lives might it have saved?
I am amazed that the focus has been on only one thing ... vaccines.
I don't know what it will take for some to break free of their illogical bias and engage their brains and their memory and observe what is right in front of them .... stop being a sheep and be a sentient being.
Read up on propaganda and learn to recognize it. Maybe the people you think are conspiracy theorists are just better at recognizing propaganda.
We are totally inundated by propaganda now days .... a quick into to some of the techniques ..... and maybe will see that some on here are using some of these techniques.

 

[Hedges]

I dont think any provision of any law in any jurisdiction exists that allows a law enforcement officer to shoot and kill an unarmed trespasser who is sufficient distance away from them to preclude a threat to their person. Can you provide a precedent of this ever happening?
The only thing remotely comparable are white house intrusions, and in a number of cases secret service did shoot intruders, but in every case the individual was armed with a gun.

I was describing laws in California which allow someone to use deadly force against an intruder for simply entering his home by force.
I don't know the exact line for law enforcement. Obviously just a crowd, outdoors, can't shoot them for standing there.
Inside a locked room as a mob begins to enter by force, while people to be protected are present?
I would hope they don't have to wait until dozens are inside rushing toward the elected officials. I would hope they would be allowed to shoot all intruders as they came through the broken door.