Solar Risks with EMF

I have an eco flow delta pro and was going to mount (4) 400 watt panels to my roof. The sunniest place is a roof off my back deck (also above my kitchen) that is not very high and close to where we hang out both in the kitchen and outside on the deck. During my research I came across a lot of concerns about harmful electric/magnetic solar fields created and I’m trying to understand if I should be concerned. Im sure a lot of people are going to say don’t worry about it and it’s not true but im just trying to understand if I should have any concerns. originally I was going to only use in case of emergency and power outage but now I’m this deep into it and was thinking about using day to day to save electric costs.

My questions are:
1) Would my set up (4 solar panels to eco flow to transfer switch) even create harmful fields/dirty electricity or is that more for a full house set up that has a giant inverter and a smart meter that stores and gives back energy to the electric company.

2) a lot of the websites were saying the solar panels themselves don’t give off much but it’s the inverter that’s the issue. I know the eco flow is the inverter but would that give off harmful fields or is for a different type of inverter. Maybe a larger one or different type?

3) I have a trifield meter. I could test numbers but not sure if I should be looking at electric. Magnetic. Or radio numbers.

This is all completely new to me and just trying to figure out next steps so any thoughts at all would be appreciated. Thanks

I would be more concerned about the wires and lights hanging above your head on that patio.
If we are going in that direction you should throw away any cellphone in the family etc.
Do you see the point I am trying to make?
I wish you all the best in your solar journey.

Almost anything I have read about "dirty electricity" no matter what it is to do with has a product they want to sell to fix it.

For solar the bashing point (I mean talking point) is the EMF is hazardous.... uhm, your wifi router and the cell towers and electrical wiring in the walls all put out EMF.

These same folks talk about there isn't enough lithium to convert all the cars to electric. Windmills produce radiation. Jewish space lasers are going to cook the gazpacho.

Not trying to be political, but most of the time people just don't know better when bad mouthing things or have a vested interest in saying what they say

And there is a small percentage of people that are going to question why and look things up.

EMF from solar has zero health risk.

don't worry about it and it's not true

Oh yes, that guy that things everything was caused by ancient aliens... you know.... I could be.

I don't really know of any respected study that has shown EMF to really cause health issues. I know a lot of people who have said it does, but beyond that I think there are a few thousand other things to be concerned with (PFAS, etc).

If it was as dangerous as the panic bunch says it is one mri machine would kill everyone in a hospital.... daily.

Crowz said:

If it was as dangerous as the panic bunch says it is one mri machine would kill everyone in a hospital.... daily.

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The elephant in the room is that like any radiation, the effects are cumulative, so the real truth is that it is an experiment, with the results still being out there. Not many people undergo MRI every day.

There is enough talk even in the scientific community that EMF effects (especially recent developments (last 25+ years)) are indeed hazardous, but the topic is taboo, just like Covid vaxxines. IE the establishment will never tell you they are dangerous.

Vastly simplified explanation - MRI works by using strong magnetic fields that are alternating to align the water molecules then shifting them in unison - the different density of the tissue causes that to react faster/slower/etc... so you get a picture.

The waves used in a MRI are radio waves at varying strength to cause the water molecules to dance around.

I've had more than a few of them (hip/back/both shoulder, knee) and I much prefer them to a CAT scan that uses X-rays. But I am not going to get one every day too.

Technically radiation is waves of energy - gamma rays are short wave lengths. The visible light spectrum is also made of waves and you have it on your skin all the time.

The difference is that gamma waves are ionizing and cause physical changes to the cells in your body - mostly bad changes.

Of course there is UV radiation that you get in abundance in sunlight - it gives you a sunburn and it causes you to produce more of the melanin that protects you from sunburn and gives you a tan.

And - if you are worried about the EMF you should be off grid living like Amish from a hundred years ago with no power. And you need to live at least few hundred miles from anyone or you will be hit with waves from radio/tv/cell phones/any wire with current through it.

knicks1met said:

I have an eco flow delta pro and was going to mount (4) 400 watt panels to my roof. The sunniest place is a roof off my back deck (also above my kitchen) that is not very high and close to where we hang out both in the kitchen and outside on the deck. During my research I came across a lot of concerns about harmful electric/magnetic solar fields created and I’m trying to understand if I should be concerned. Im sure a lot of people are going to say don’t worry about it and it’s not true but im just trying to understand if I should have any concerns. originally I was going to only use in case of emergency and power outage but now I’m this deep into it and was thinking about using day to day to save electric costs.

My questions are:
1) Would my set up (4 solar panels to eco flow to transfer switch) even create harmful fields/dirty electricity or is that more for a full house set up that has a giant inverter and a smart meter that stores and gives back energy to the electric company.

2) a lot of the websites were saying the solar panels themselves don’t give off much but it’s the inverter that’s the issue. I know the eco flow is the inverter but would that give off harmful fields or is for a different type of inverter. Maybe a larger one or different type?

3) I have a trifield meter. I could test numbers but not sure if I should be looking at electric. Magnetic. Or radio numbers.

This is all completely new to me and just trying to figure out next steps so any thoughts at all would be appreciated. Thanks



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I'd suggest you stop going down the rabbit hole of fake conspiracy theory websites about electromagnetism and radiation. There's apparently even one about EV batteries putting out harmful radiation.

I would be more worried about being on that patio when the sun is out. Sunlight IS EMF with some ionizing radiation with total of around 1kW per square meter of area (no clouds). That energy is why you feel warm being in the sun. The sun is KNOWN to cause skin cancer in some people.

In comparison, the lower frequency EMFs from your lights and wires are maybe milli-watts per square meter when very close to them.
And at 60 Hz you are definitely in the near field where the magnetic and electric fields are still basically separate from each other.

The studies that have been done for YEARS and decades have not concluded that there is any correlation between line EMF/RF and cancer. If the voltage is high enough you may get electrocuted or at high power may feel warm.

These studies showing there is a problem is so small compared to the ones showing it is not a problem that the results are basically just "noise" in the data.
If it were a real problem, we would be able to measure it. Like sun and skin cancer where the ionizing radiation has the energy to cause breaks in DNA.

The energy needed to affect things on the atomic level were described over 100 years ago by Albert Einstein. The photoelectric effect. It's also what makes your PV panels work.

boB

And if this thread goes any farther I think it should be moved to the humor section

robbob2112 said:

And if this thread goes any farther I think it should be moved to the humor section

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To that end...

robbob2112 said:

Oh yes, that guy that things everything was caused by ancient aliens... you know.... I could be.

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and...

But I already bought the silver lined boxers

ShirBlackspots said:

I'd suggest you stop going down the rabbit hole of fake conspiracy theory websites about electromagnetism and radiation. There's apparently even one about EV batteries putting out harmful radiation.

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You clearly have not done research.
Plugging your ears and screaming "la la la , i cant hear you" is not going to help (maybe it will make you feel good, but it wont change the reality or the truth).
This is similar to all the vaxx idiots screaming safe and effective and dying and having issues hand over fist, where even the official narrative is starting to admit that the vaxxes were anything but

Reynold Wrap HD Tinfoil Suit for the Grand Gullibles.

knicks1met said:

I have an eco flow delta pro and was going to mount (4) 400 watt panels to my roof. The sunniest place is a roof off my back deck (also above my kitchen) that is not very high and close to where we hang out both in the kitchen and outside on the deck. During my research I came across a lot of concerns about harmful electric/magnetic solar fields created and I’m trying to understand if I should be concerned. Im sure a lot of people are going to say don’t worry about it and it’s not true but im just trying to understand if I should have any concerns. originally I was going to only use in case of emergency and power outage but now I’m this deep into it and was thinking about using day to day to save electric costs.

My questions are:
1) Would my set up (4 solar panels to eco flow to transfer switch) even create harmful fields/dirty electricity or is that more for a full house set up that has a giant inverter and a smart meter that stores and gives back energy to the electric company.

2) a lot of the websites were saying the solar panels themselves don’t give off much but it’s the inverter that’s the issue. I know the eco flow is the inverter but would that give off harmful fields or is for a different type of inverter. Maybe a larger one or different type?

3) I have a trifield meter. I could test numbers but not sure if I should be looking at electric. Magnetic. Or radio numbers.

This is all completely new to me and just trying to figure out next steps so any thoughts at all would be appreciated. Thanks



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Is that a granite counter next to the grill? I read somewhere that they emit radiation, but it probably depends on where they are sourced.

aenyc said:

You clearly have not done research.
Plugging your ears and screaming "la la la , i cant hear you" is not going to help (maybe it will make you feel good, but it wont change the reality or the truth).
This is similar to all the vaxx idiots screaming safe and effective and dying and having issues hand over fist, where even the official narrative is starting to admit that the vaxxes were anything but

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I was in the Air Force. My first block tech school was electronic principles. My main job was backshop and we worked on the B-52 radar systems as well as the radio systems. I know far more than you do, with your brain damage from right wing and crazy idiot propaganda over multiple decades. You are unable to think clearly and logically.

But I don't think it's granite (which is radioactive), rather marble or something like that.

Marble is pretty, but will be dissolved if a fruit is left on top and starts to spoil.


There's a story that a guy working for LLNL turned in his monitor badge, and it was exposed. No big deal, they gave him another. Checked a little while later, it was also exposed. He started to get worried. Industrial health group started tracing out his path at work carrying a Geiger counter. Nothing. Finally they went to his home, observed that he removed his badge at home and laid it on the granite kitchen counter.

PV panels produce DC in sunlight. If wires connected in a loop it makes a DC magnetic field, which you are exposed to.
But the Earth's core also makes a magnetic field, which you are also exposed to.
More important, it makes the "Magnetosphere", which deflects energetic particles that would otherwise pound the Earth. Most interact in the atmosphere, but some reach you causing cancer, birth defects, an soft-error bit flips in your computer.

In space, computers crash more often. And people "see" flashes of light that don't exist.

Have you heard of Tritium? Carbon-14? Those are radioactive, cause cancer.
Cosmic particles which make it through the magnetosphere interact with molecules in the atmosphere, creating radioactive isotopes. Carbon-14 dating is used to refute the "created in 6 days 5000 years ago" theory, among other applications. Deuterium is much more common than tritium, and is stable. Heavy water, found in the bottom of facility boilers. Tritiated water gets incorporated in your biology and irradiates you from within.

Back to those PV panels - I wouldn't worry about the DC at all. But MPPT imposes differential mode AC, which will radiate from panels and loops of wire. Inverter imposes common-mode AC which will also radiate from twisted or parallel wires. More significant, it has shocked a number of forum members.

Older houses with knob and tube wires, separated about 1', also create 60 Hz fields. There have been reports of elevated childhood leukemia where people live below high voltage power lines. I don't know how strong the statistical signal is; we don't get to have carefully controlled double-blind studies.

Chemicals are the much bigger threat. PFAS was mentioned, endocrine disrupting plasticizers, drugs including synthetic hormones such as birth control pills which cause gender transition in those unhappy amphibians and fish downstream from human waste releases.

Short version:
I wouldn't worry one bit about the panels on your roof.

But you can research the risks from your patio chair, using smart phone, laptop with WiFi, or Starlink.

I tried to do research on the dangers of EMF. All the peer reviewed research I came across said there are no know issues but we should do more studies.

Then there are these other "studies" that all seem to be found on web sites that want to sell stuff to eliminate EMF.