Thank you "maybe???" appears that it is back. though I do not know the time limit. Found an error I want to fix in my own post..... but there is no option to edit it. would clean up MY thread a little too. (could remove un-needed post)Yes I just disabled it today. And the reasoning is that if someone "liked" or responded to a comment, then it is changed, it can throw off the conversation. Some people can use it in a bad way. But this group is friendly and I think we will be fine disabling it, so its done![]()
Yeah we tried that but we keep running into the same problems. People editing their post after the fact during arguments. It's driving me nuts, so we are for sure keeping a "time limit" for editing now. You have 10 hours to edit posts. I really didn't want to have to do that, but the "reports" that people were posting were driving the mods and myself crazy. Sorry about that. Really a bummer.Thank you "maybe???" appears that it is back. though I do not know the time limit. Found an error I want to fix in my own post..... but there is no option to edit it. would clean up MY thread a little too. (could remove un-needed post)
Being a Moderator and Admin of various forums have always encouraged "self moderating". sometimes it takes a nudge or two lol but overall it has worked. But; can't do that if you can't edit YOUR OWN post.
Yeah we tried that but we keep running into the same problems. People editing their post after the fact during arguments. It's driving me nuts, so we are for sure keeping a "time limit" for editing now. You have 10 hours to edit posts. I really didn't want to have to do that, but the "reports" that people were posting were driving the mods and myself crazy. Sorry about that. Really a bummer.
The problem lies when a begrudged member gets in a tissy about some argument, and edits their posts DESTROYING several threads.Is it just me or did we lose the ability to edit posts again? I can't edit any of my posts, even posts <1 day old.
The problem lies when a begrudged member gets in a tissy about some argument, and edits their posts DESTROYING several threads.
Make no mistake.
Everything posted on this forum belongs to Will.
Removing or otherwise destroying content posted damages the forum, and steals content from Will.
I don’t think of it as stealing revenue.Hmm, I suppose I see where you/he is coming from, it is fustrating when people do that, but to me it seems like a fairly heavy handed response that very likely does more damage than it prevents. Realistically, how many users posting valuable content were getting upset and deleting there content, compared with the number of people editing their content for legitimate reasons.
I have got a lot of value out of the continually updated posts on this forum and elsewhere, and I frequently edit my posts to update the information, add links, correct myself, or clarify a point. Its frustrating to lose this ability, even moreso if the reason is because
I'm quite dissapointed by this perspective, and I disagree with it in spirit and on technical grounds. I have got a lot of value from Will's videos and content, I respect what he does, purchased his book moreso to support his future content and show my appreciation than for the book itself. And I very much appreciate him creating, promoting, and hosting this forum, and recognize his right to run it as he sees fit.
That said, the value of this forum for me, and I supect for most here, is the community, Will is a valuable part of that, as are the moderators, and I appreciate what y'all do and provide, but the dozens of regular posters and hundreds of occasional posters sharing information, exchanging ideas, helping eachother, teaching and learning and sharing is what makes this community special.
I do not consider other members posts and comments to be Will's and I do not consider my own posts to be Will's. And editing or even deleting content is not 'stealing' anything from him (though deleting content out of spite is immature, and does negatively effect the community). This is a community made up of individuals, and its a community that has value because of the collection of individuals. Will has some right of use to our content as the host of this forum (per the terms of service), and I suspect most of us are happy granting that access in return for all the value we all get from this forum.
But the idea that everything on this forum 'belongs' to Will, or that deleting one's own content is 'stealing content' from Will, leaves a very sour taste in mouth. It runs afoul of the spirit of community, and collaboration, and sharing that I have always associated with this forum.
I recognize people purposefully deleting content maliciously is a problem, but the concern should be that it harms the community and we lose valuable information, not that it might theoretically deprive Will of revenue or content. And the fix shouldn't be a bigger problem than the problem it fixes.
Yes it is disabled for good now. One of our members got in an argument with other members, was angry, and edited his old posts with porn. It took me over an hour to selectively delete all of them. I will never let that happen again. Tired of this problem happening over and over.Is it just me or did we lose the ability to edit posts again? I can't edit any of my posts, even posts <1 day old.
On several other forums I moderate, members can request for moderators to edit posts, or threads.Any content posted by a member on a forum belongs to said member, and that's by law (at least in the EU, pretty sure it is too in the US).
Also if someone delete his content I don't see how it can do a lot of damage as it's only his content, not all the content of the forum.
And how often it happens?
Also, anyone can save a web page (I often do it when i find a great ressource and it's pretty much the only one I could find, don't want to visit the site in a few months to find is has closed...) and anyone can archive web pages on the wayback machine and it'll be accessible to anyone in the future.
Not being able to edit our own posts is a real PITA, especially for long term projects threads.
On several other forums I moderate, members can request for moderators to edit posts, or threads.
Be sure and report ANY thread needing editing, and Will will get it done.
Also, seeing full-grown men complain and argue about what battery chemistry is best, drives me nuts. We have members here that cannot be trusted. They are emotional and weak, and we need to keep them in check.
Yes it is disabled for good now. One of our members got in an argument with other members, was angry, and edited his old posts with porn. It took me over an hour to selectively delete all of them. I will never let that happen again. Tired of this problem happening over and over.
We have members here that cannot be trusted. They are emotional and weak, and we need to keep them in check.
If you see someone acting like an idiot, call them out on it. I will leave those posts up. I think we need to keep each other in check to keep this forum helpful for others. Mods cannot "enforce" every single post.
Good ideas BUT #3 puts members into a situation ripe for conflict. Members should not be in a position of having to "police" anything, that's why there are Forum Moderators. That itself can be a very stressful position to be in as well and takes a thick skin and serious tolerance.I wonder if a balance might be struck by
- Instituting a slightly more relaxed editing policy for all members (or all members with over 50 posts or something).
- Adopting the policy you mentioned of granting greater editing privileges for regular members in good standing
- Regular members taking a more active role in defusing conflict before it becomes an issue, and reporting offending content.
This is a really shitty, immature thing to do.
Look in the mirror much?
Seems a bit uncalled for IMHO
Yes it is disabled for good now. One of our members got in an argument with other members, was angry, and edited his old posts with porn.
This [getting angry, deleting content, and posting porn] is a really shitty, immature thing to do. I can understand your frustration having to deal with people like that and the desire to prevent future occurrences.