It is coming from china. US Stock would have been about $100 more. Since I am not in a hurry, I chose to have it shipped from China.
BATTERY SELLERS - THE GOOD, BAD, UGLY -- or Jenny (DOCAN) so far so good ...
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Surferdudemi
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Wire transfers still incur a 3% fee
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Has anyone ordered EVE280K cells from Shenzhen Oneier Technology Co? They have US stock so was thinking of giving them a try. Similar pricing to other US stock suppliers.
Would appreciate hearing the good or bad from anyone who has purchased from them.
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That would make sense to have a warehouse in LA since so much freight comes through the combined LA Long Beach ports. Now all we need is feedback on quality and price?
Before you send money, all the amounts are disclosed. How can that be fraudulent?
If I go to the store and buy a TV, the price on the sales tag does not show tax. When I go to check out I have to pay a sales tax, is it fraud that I have to pay more?
I can see that is may be fraudulent if there are additional fees, after you have paid, and several days later, but that is not the case. You get the exact amount you owe before you even go to PayPal. Sounds legit to me.
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A wire transfer fee is generally charged by the buyers bank. There should be no fee charged by the vendor for a wire transfer. If so, I would agree with the above. PayPal or credit card fees may be different. Since there is no protection once a wire is sent I would never wire money unless I was absolutely sure there was no risk. Anything involving transportation over the ocean has risk.That is why commercial transactions use Letters of Credit.
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its depend of the country, some country take a taxe on any money transfert, both way. some vendors make provision on their price, some don't.
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My feeling is the vendor should disclose such a fee. I know of no such fee in China but beyond commerce, there are restrictions on transfering money to someone in China but most Chinese have a workaround for that.
There is enough money that wants to exit China that there is a whole grey market system that has a very good exchange rate and is safe. There are friends and family that can make arrangements for money to go to someone in China while the US sender pays US dollars to a Chinese National here who only gets the money when the Chinese receiver confirms the money is in their account. It is probably a violation of some Chinese foreign exchange rules but no risk to the sender. I do not recommend that process for business transactions.
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We are talking a small amount of fees and when people complain about those fees, it's time to part ways. That is what I do as a business. I run my business for a profit and those profits allow me to pay my bills. I do not want any client that is a chiseler. I give them a quote and 99.9% they say yes. Those that want a deal are asked to go shopping elsewhere. They obviously think I am ripping them off or they do not know what a deal is. As far as I know, Docan has always been up front with the exact dollar amount before I even say yes. If I believe it is a fair price, I pay. If I do not, I move on.
Do as you wish, the friends and family benefit leaves you high and dry when there is a problem. There is no recourse. You lose.
Step up and pay the fees or go to Aliexpress and find those sellers that will sell you batteries at half price or less. Free shipping and no fees. Let us know how that works.
Do as you wish, the friends and family benefit leaves you high and dry when there is a problem. There is no recourse. You lose.
Step up and pay the fees or go to Aliexpress and find those sellers that will sell you batteries at half price or less. Free shipping and no fees. Let us know how that works.
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There's no charge for me to wire money from my account at my broker. Good advice for anyone wiring money that there is no recourse, so be sure you are dealing with a reputable / trustworthy company.
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If a supplier quotes a price, but then you cannot purchase the item at that price, I call that fraudulent pricing. Cell phone companies used to do this, and at least now they note that there are carrier and government fees added on top of that $59.99 / month plan. My guess is that suppliers of cells quote the most basic price so that they look like they are the cheapest seller to attract business. Then when you ask for a quote, they add on more charges.
In this case, they advertised a price, but then the invoice showed a bank fee/paypal fee of 5%. I asked about this and was told "I think it should be the website bug, please send me your order and shipping address ..." but then was told that if I wanted to send the money via bank wire, it would only be 3%. So, again, you cannot buy the cells for the price they show on the website.
So sales tax is fraud. Shipping fees are fraud. Customs fees? Sounds like fraud to me. I guess if you make $15 an hour, you think it's fraud that all the fees and taxes taken out is fraud.
We all have different opinions, which is great. I look at the bottom line. How much for me to walk out of the store without getting arrested. I do know my transactions with Docan were very clear on PayPal fees, shipping costs, shipping times, and the location of the cells before the final cost was sent.
We all have different opinions, which is great. I look at the bottom line. How much for me to walk out of the store without getting arrested. I do know my transactions with Docan were very clear on PayPal fees, shipping costs, shipping times, and the location of the cells before the final cost was sent.
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Oddly enough, I've bought lots of stuff on AliExpress. They always show the cost of shipping, and I have not had to pay any additional fees to pay for my order on top of the listed price (+shipping, if indicated). I've also imported machine tools and wired money several years ago with no additional fees.
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Not at all when they are disclosed up front. Customs and transport fees, if known and disclosed on an invoice are fair game. If customs and transport fees are not know at the time, and this is disclosed, not a problem.
Aliexpress is not Alibaba which is not Docan either.
You can buy a lot of stuff in Oregon and I do know many people that do. They have no sales tax. If you come to Washington State, the sales tax is 6.5%. Every county and city adds to that amount. In the end, you are going to pay around 10% or more. When you go to a store, you really do not know how much the item is until you check out. Especially if you do not live in the county where you are shopping. I think it's foolish to shop in Washington State and think the price on the item is what you are going to pay when you walk out.
You can buy a lot of stuff in Oregon and I do know many people that do. They have no sales tax. If you come to Washington State, the sales tax is 6.5%. Every county and city adds to that amount. In the end, you are going to pay around 10% or more. When you go to a store, you really do not know how much the item is until you check out. Especially if you do not live in the county where you are shopping. I think it's foolish to shop in Washington State and think the price on the item is what you are going to pay when you walk out.
But Docan gave me all the numbers before I even when to the PayPal page. Once I pay for the transaction, I have never got any additional fees. It's very clear how much it will be to get those cells to my door.
I do not get what you are saying.
It isn't up to Docan or any other seller to quote you what your bank or payment method of choice will charge you to perform the international transaction.
Your bank will tell you how much their fees are (usually a percentage). Some banks may not charge at all.
Paypal tells you in their terms of use what their fees are (again, I think it is a percentage).
Your bank will tell you how much their fees are (usually a percentage). Some banks may not charge at all.
Paypal tells you in their terms of use what their fees are (again, I think it is a percentage).
