SignatureSolarJames
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We did add “PV” to the end unlike some other rounding up folks…
May I please get a “Glass is half full” treatment here? ?
Fortress 12K Buy one get one FREE!
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May I please get a “Glass is half full” treatment here? ?
Ok you get a "glass is half full of bullshit" pass.
Fortress changed the name of their inverter from 12k to "true 12k". You can change the name of yours too
SignatureSolarJames
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Not quite the spirit I was hoping but thanks
If we went the other way people would compare it to other “12k” units which are a complete class below this unit
We didnt make the mess here, just tried to work with it and threw a bone either way.
So you are dishonest because a couple of others are dishonest? Computes
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Should have gone with something cool like EG4 Super Inverter Grande. Nobody could accuse you of anything nefarious then.
Should have gone with something cool like EG4 Super Inverter Grande. Nobody could accuse you of anything nefarious then.
Quattrohead
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A very politician answer, we are lying less than everyone else LOL ?
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Can anyone argue with this? I hate this stupid argument and feel like doing something about it.
I never even paid attention how bad this was. Sounds like it might be time for some government intervention in this naming crap.....
Politicians just love getting into stuff like this.
Edit: Actually I just thought of a solution. If you can make the companies have to pair batteries and whatever else to get those precious ul certificates why not make it a requirement the name can't be deceiving like they are doing.
Politicians just love getting into stuff like this.
Edit: Actually I just thought of a solution. If you can make the companies have to pair batteries and whatever else to get those precious ul certificates why not make it a requirement the name can't be deceiving like they are doing.
Coming from a relative newb that doesn't even have solar yet, I have to agree that the "class" of an AIO should be how much power the actual inverter can output. PV is great when the sun is shining, but, that doesn't help at night when you can't fully power your home, or if you don't have battery to dump the power to.
A coworker is always complaining about his Tesla solar installation, where they were more than happy to sell him more panels than their inverter could support. He doesn't have batteries, so it's normal for his solar production to clip for a good portion of the day due to an undersized inverter.
A coworker is always complaining about his Tesla solar installation, where they were more than happy to sell him more panels than their inverter could support. He doesn't have batteries, so it's normal for his solar production to clip for a good portion of the day due to an undersized inverter.
DIYrich
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Maybe FTC should standardize inverter advertising to: Max Usable PV / Max AC Inversion from battery. EG4 18/15kW, Sol-ark 15/12kW.
I'd want inverter first in the naming. 15/18 and 12/15
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That definitely helps people who are trying decide what will work for them. The effort would be appreciated.
But it would be much better if it didn't have to be explained.
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There is never such a time..... ;-)
timselectric
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The problem is that if you put 8oz in a 12oz can. And place it on a shelf next to other 12oz cans. Everyone assumes that they will get 12oz, until after they have paid for it.
Dude have you seen the bills they've written up or passed over the last few years? See: "Inflation Reduction Act" to name one biggie.
Quattrohead
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Output to load, battery or both ? See it already got complicated.
As someone who religiously rtfm before buying anything it is not a concern.
Solar Guppy
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If one can't read the features and specifications to determine if the product meet their needs, then they are not likely ready to be a successful DIY installer 
Agreed - the less .gov the better ??????
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The point is that you shouldn't have to read the fine print. To know that the name is deceptive.
And, we shouldn't have to explain to members that some vendors are playing fast and loose with the names.
And, we shouldn't have to explain to members that some vendors are playing fast and loose with the names.
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