MajicDiver
Solar Enthusiast
I think we are agreeing that if someone tell you they have a hybrid you still no nothing of use about what they haveHybrid can do both.
I think we are agreeing that if someone tell you they have a hybrid you still no nothing of use about what they haveHybrid can do both.
I disagree. The size of the inverter main breaker determines whether the entire house load can be serviced by the grid. I do not know all the variations of main breaker sizes versus inverter capacity but you have to dive into the specs to see what they are. I know for a fact that some hybrids can pass more power than the inverter can produce. We are splitting hairs here. Loads do not pass through an inverter. Power passes through and inverter to service loads.Nope, it very different. One difference, if it passes thru, the inverter must be capable of passing the entire house load. If it fails, house loses power.
Not at all.I think we are agreeing that if someone tell you they have a hybrid you still no nothing of use about what they have
Yes, but it still must be able to pass the load thru it.I know for a fact that some hybrids can pass more power than the inverter can produce.
Was grid tied without permission from mid December, 2021 to 21-July-2023. First with one inverter in parallel with grid and zero export, then two, then when enough battery, cut the cord.What is your use case? What inverter are you using and does it fit your needs?
That is where things are getting lost in translation. I see power passing through the inverter to service the loads. Essentially the loads pull the current and in that situation it only goes one way. That capacity may be higher than the capacity of the inverter to export or service loads. If the inverter cannot service the loads the grid covers the difference and some hybrids allow you to set parameters of grid versus inverter support for loads.Yes, but it still must be able to pass the load thru it.
I’m assuming if your inverter fails, your loads lose power?f the inverter cannot service the loads the grid covers the difference and some hybrids allow you to set parameters of grid versus inverter support for loads.
No, the grid passes through to the loads unless the grid input breaker opens because the loads were greater than the breaker size. My Outback Skybox functioned differently and I had to wire a manual bypass just to take the inverter portion offline. To be clear, the hybrid box is more than just an inverter, it is a transfer switch, a charge controller, a battery charger and an inverter.I’m assuming if your inverter fails, your loads lose power?
And everyone that sells the inverters I’m using calls them gridtied, but of course they are hybrid by that definition. Edit: Well, not everybody- it appears there are exceptions.If someone has a hybrid. They can export to the grid and/or run on battery without the grid.
I believe there was some limit unless you were using an external transfer switch. Even a transfer switch has a current limit.And I didn’t have to worry about limiting the connected loads to whatever the inverter could power or pass thru.
Marketing talk is just that. As mentioned a hybrid is both grid tied and off grid capable. All hybrids by definition are capable of being grid tied, but not all grid tied inverters are hybrids. If this conversation continues any longer I will be having dreams about splitting hairs. Good night.And everyone that sells the inverters I’m using calls them gridtied, but of course they are hybrid by that definition.
Marketing can be confusing.And everyone that sells the inverters I’m using calls them gridtied, but of course they are hybrid by that definition.
I was able to click on it from a desktop computerLOL, I keep clicking on this bold text, nothing happens.
They were referring to clicking on the picture of the bold print, I believe.I was able to click on it from a desktop computer
I even live in Cali, and $30-60k solar installs
under $4k
If all I do is offset my constant loads, I'll save $900/year and have a backup in case (something) happen
Is the EG4 3K not a hybrid then? I don't think it can export, even though I think it can sync and invert with the grid. It just doesn't have the feature to allow positive power flow out the input. Or maybe I'm wrong about it.If someone has a hybrid. They can export to the grid and/or run on battery without the grid.
This is the whole us solar industry. It's the biggest scam I know of right now. Every day there are stories of people who paid 50-95k on a solar system and their bill didn't even drop. I advise people around me not to get solar unless they plan to diy it and most people can't so they should just stay away.I learnt last weekend from an electrician friend in San Jose, CA that a typical solar installation costs now 60k... WITHOUT BATTERY BACKUP.
Crazy!!!