timselectric
If I can do it, you can do it.
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They were referring to clicking on the picture of the bold print, I believe.I was able to click on it from a desktop computer
They were referring to clicking on the picture of the bold print, I believe.I was able to click on it from a desktop computer
I even live in Cali, and $30-60k solar installs
under $4k
If all I do is offset my constant loads, I'll save $900/year and have a backup in case (something) happen
Is the EG4 3K not a hybrid then? I don't think it can export, even though I think it can sync and invert with the grid. It just doesn't have the feature to allow positive power flow out the input. Or maybe I'm wrong about it.If someone has a hybrid. They can export to the grid and/or run on battery without the grid.
This is the whole us solar industry. It's the biggest scam I know of right now. Every day there are stories of people who paid 50-95k on a solar system and their bill didn't even drop. I advise people around me not to get solar unless they plan to diy it and most people can't so they should just stay away.I learnt last weekend from an electrician friend in San Jose, CA that a typical solar installation costs now 60k... WITHOUT BATTERY BACKUP.
Crazy!!!
It's an off grid AIO.Is the EG4 3K not a hybrid then? I don't think it can export, even though I think it can sync and invert with the grid. It just doesn't have the feature to allow positive power flow out the input. Or maybe I'm wrong about it.
As long as I can produce on cloudy days like today, I should be good. And if the AC300 holds out - I'm skeptical, but getting a 2nd battery combo was just $300 over battery alone, so I bought a spare just in case.Pays for itself in 4 years. Cannot be wrong.
That is similar to my story for the past 14 years and I have probably spent more but that is because I have moved three times and recouped some of that expense when I sold two homes. I have gone through three hybrid inverters and more sets of batteries, which I was able to resell. My latest home and system may be the last hurrah, but I have said that before. Technology is tempting.I spent about $30k in parts over the past 24 years for my DIY system
In Australia, "Hybrid inverter" refers to a PV inverter with the capability of DC coupling to a battery. Normally in a grid-tied context but not exclusively.Marketing talk is just that. As mentioned a hybrid is both grid tied and off grid capable. All hybrids by definition are capable of being grid tied, but not all grid tied inverters are hybrids. If this conversation continues any longer I will be having dreams about splitting hairs. Good night.
If true, it sure is.I learnt last weekend from an electrician friend in San Jose, CA that a typical solar installation costs now 60k... WITHOUT BATTERY BACKUP.
Crazy!!!
That fits within the broad definition. Maybe that means we almost have a global definition. Subject of course to the rule of, "lost in translation". /sIn Australia, "Hybrid inverter" refers to a PV inverter with the capability of DC coupling to a battery. Normally in a grid-tied context but not exclusively.
Sub mode, batteryless inverters would be a very inexpensive way to get into solar without involving the poco. Why are these not that popular?Not completely accurate.
Many off grid AIO's have a SUB mode.
This can blend solar and grid.
If they are capable of batteryless operation, the grid is the buffer.
This is how I was setup in the beginning. While waiting for my first battery to arrive.
Solar covered everything it could and grid covered the rest. (Or all at night)
It's an inexpensive way to get started.
If you just want to start with reducing your utility bill.
Many simple off grid setups have no provisions for grid inputs.Off grid: has an input, gets power from the grid
Plenty are purchased. Just not used in this way.Sub mode, batteryless inverters would be a very inexpensive way to get into solar without involving the poco. Why are these not that popular?
What do you call the solar setup with no grid connection (ie. cabin in the woods)?Grid tie: has an output, sends power to the grid
Off grid: has an input, gets power from the grid
Hybrid: biderectional, can send to or get power from the grid.
Off gridWhat do you call the solar setup with no grid connection (ie. cabin in the woods)?
FarfromgridenOff grid
Way off grid. lol
My recommendation would be to look at the various battery systems that are out there that are designed to be expandable (most) and fit your needs for price and technical complexity. Purchase and install a single module when still grid tied and start learning how to make use of it.I have purchased my sol ark inverter and my solar panels so far. I purchased forty 330 watt panels(great deal). My plan is to put 30 into commission while being grid tied the first year or till more funds are available. Then I would like to expand my pv array. Then I would like to start purchasing good quality 48 volt batteries from then on till I am pretty much self sustained. Just using the grid for emergency situations if needed. I guess my main question is should I be adding batteries first or expanding my array?
It all depends on your consumption patterns and the Net Energy Metering plan and the energy rates from your power company.I guess my main question is should I be adding batteries first or expanding my array?
That's going to be off grid or hybrid. Which, funny enough I would still prefer a hybrid inverter for pure off grid useWhat do you call the solar setup with no grid connection (ie. cabin in the woods)?
Unless you need AC coupling, why would you pay extra for features that you won't use?Which, funny enough I would still prefer a hybrid inverter for pure off grid use
And you might get a wider range of suggestions if you started a new thread with your battery question, this one is somewhat unrelated.I have purchased my sol ark inverter and my solar panels so far. I purchased forty 330 watt panels(great deal).
So now we add ‘pure off grid’. Clear as mud!Grid tie: has an output, can send power to the grid
Off grid: has an input, can get power from the grid
Hybrid: biderectional, can send to or get power from the grid.