The Amazon reviews mention no support for DIYers when you buy a Gree. They only support HVAC installers/distributors.
EG4 24K mini split
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Excellent. Is it possible to purchase spare parts for your unit if a motherboard burns out? I think Deye actually sells individual parts, but my memory is a bit hazy after all this heat pump research.
There has to be an HVAC forum somewhere that supports DIYs for these heat pump units.
timselectric
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Maybe, but I haven't looked into it yet.
Odds are that by the time it fails. I will just replace it with the latest version.
I have a lot of redundancy built in to my systems.
This is only one of the 3 ways that I can cool or heat the space that it serves. I installed the Hotspot to be the most efficient way, now.
MrM1
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For what I saved in installation cost on three units, I could buy a Forth unit and warehouse it for parts
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Not a bad idea.
Bob in Tucson
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I've read the warranty statements for a handful of major manufacturers and all of those require a licensed HVAC person to do the installation to qualify for a warranty.
With good equipment, my hope is the warranty isn't worth that much.
Plum Crazy Rob
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90% of parts should be industry std like electronic expansion valve, fan motors, compressor, and the like (?)
Main PCB, Solar MPPT, and displays should be unique?? Should (key word) be able to run down thru Mfr / Distributors. I would prefer reliable as stated though.
How many parts have you got for a TV lately?? They are mostly reliable and (unfortunately?) go in the trash by the time something fails.
Main PCB, Solar MPPT, and displays should be unique?? Should (key word) be able to run down thru Mfr / Distributors. I would prefer reliable as stated though.
How many parts have you got for a TV lately?? They are mostly reliable and (unfortunately?) go in the trash by the time something fails.
MrM1
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Yes, but is Eg4/Deye "good equipment" ?
timselectric
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Deye is.
If EG4 didn't touch it much, it should be fine.
MrM1
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OH Ouch ?
timselectric
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Wasn't meant as a derogatory statement.
But if you take something that works fine. And change it much. You are back in the realm of beta testing.
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CPOKim
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Doesn't the mini split heat pump needs to be certified? Either Energy-star or AHRI Certification Program while meeting the 3 criteria?
Plum Crazy Rob
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You're correct that it is NOT Energy Star or AHRI certified so doesn't qualify as a heat pump - however since you can hook solar panels directly to it and run it I took the 30% Federal Solar credit as PV equipment??
No Energy Star sucks further as not qualifying for my local utility heat pump rebates.
The Hotspot units have both certs, although Hotspot even points out the test gives them no consideration for the Solar aspects as a higher efficiency.
No Energy Star sucks further as not qualifying for my local utility heat pump rebates.
The Hotspot units have both certs, although Hotspot even points out the test gives them no consideration for the Solar aspects as a higher efficiency.
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You're not claiming the Energy star credit.
You're claiming the solar system credit.
CPOKim
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You're right, I was looking at the "residential clean energy credit" and not the solar system credit.
Hotspot 12k mini split retail $1895
EG4 12k mini split (free pre-charge line set upgrade, similar to Mr. Cool 4th Gen DIY) retail $1299
EG4 is a no brainer since my local utility doesn't even have a heat pump rebate, only $15 for a window/wall AC.
Plus its nearly 31.5% cheaper and offered a longer limited warranty*.
Hotspot 12k mini split retail $1895
EG4 12k mini split (free pre-charge line set upgrade, similar to Mr. Cool 4th Gen DIY) retail $1299
EG4 is a no brainer since my local utility doesn't even have a heat pump rebate, only $15 for a window/wall AC.
Plus its nearly 31.5% cheaper and offered a longer limited warranty*.
Zwy
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I think there is a fine line according to the IRS. One could claim the 30% for the array but as for the heat pump/mini split, it falls under the Energy Efficient Home Improvement Credit
Electric or natural gas heat pumps, electric or natural gas heat pump water heaters, central air conditioners,natural gas or propane or oil water heaters, natural gas or propane or oil furnaces or hot water boilers: must meet or exceed the highest efficiency tier (not including any advanced tier) established by the Consortium for Energy Efficiency (CEE) that is in effect as of the beginning of the year in which the property is placed in service.See also the CEE Directory of Efficient Equipment for a searchable database of qualifying equipment.
A person could probably claim the expense under the solar system credit but if audited it might not be allowed. I'd certainly consult a tax specialist that might be able to shed light on the subject.
EastTexCowboy
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It really only matters if you're audited, and even then you have a legitimate argument. I'm usually inclined to take a deduction if it's not obvious whether it's allowed then be prepared to fight them if audited. And the best way to not get audited is to not have any red flags on your return. They're pretty accustomed to solar tax credits so unless it's something weird I doubt it would trigger an audit. BTW, I've been audited twice and won both times which gives me a little insight into how that stuff works. The last one was an "Obama audit" according to my CPA and was a full top to bottom audit, every deduction, every invoice, all bank statements, the works.
My AC units installed this year qualify, so it's a mute point for me, but I'd probably take the deduction even if I wasn't 100% certain.
Plum Crazy Rob
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This. I certainly would be unable to find a tax accountant near me in KS who would even have a remote clue.
(The county Elec Code dept said "install a WHAT??!!" ), so then I was done with them.
Accountants if in doubt you know would say NO. Bring it IRS. Highly defensible as solar equipment.
