sunshine_eggo
Happy Breffast!
I stand corrected. They weren't lazy.
LF280K EVE cells FAKE Grade A cells !
- Thread starter LaFabrik
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Alkaline
Solar Wizard
Definitely BS took grade B cells sanded and then relasered them. I know I make people mad with my posts, but I also know the disappointment and anger one has when they realized they have been scammed. It happened twice to me and since then I have made it my mission to stop these scammers.
With that out of the way, the 280K V3 is a pretty decent cell, I'm sure you will pass capacity tests even if its grade B, however, the problem is that you were told you were buying 1 thing only to be sent something else.
If I were you I would demand the seller give you 50% discount for lying (probably won't happen they will tell you we give you $15.00 off next order...)
This is why the test report is the gold standard for verifying if you have gotten grade A/Genuine/EV/Cells the manufacture actually stands behind or not.
Here are some pictures of non altered QR codes I found: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/new-docan-230ah-eve-cells.64552/page-2#post-807643
basically a real qr code background will be the same as the entire cell.
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Partimewages
Solar Addict
Do we know who the seller is? Or is that not allowed?
EastFalcon
New Member
God damn, you'd think the Chinese would just pay off Alkaline at this point just to keep him quite! ?
I really appreciate your help man
Daddy Tanuki
Solar Wizard
thats nice but who is/was the seller?
tjstepanian
New Member
Please let us know who the seller is, so we can avoid/buy from them
sunshine_eggo
Happy Breffast!
yes please. There is no forum rule or reason not to disclose the seller.
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Alkaline
Solar Wizard
Maybe he is keeping there name out as part of settlement?
sunshine_eggo
Happy Breffast!
Now eve 280ah cells grade is a mess. In previous days, orginal QR (not fake QR) cells are grade A, B-marked cells are grade B. but now there are original QR A- cells which have better looking but similar performance as B-marked cells.
It is not able to know a cell is grade A or grade B by testing a single cell. You have to connect 16 cells together to make a pack, then know they are grade A or grade B, cells consistency matters.
How to guarantee to get real grade A cells? Sign a Purchasing Contract with EVE Directly! QR and Excel data report are all unreliable.
It is not able to know a cell is grade A or grade B by testing a single cell. You have to connect 16 cells together to make a pack, then know they are grade A or grade B, cells consistency matters.
How to guarantee to get real grade A cells? Sign a Purchasing Contract with EVE Directly! QR and Excel data report are all unreliable.
Alkaline
Solar Wizard
Now eve 280ah cells grade is a mess. In previous days, orginal QR (not fake QR) cells are grade A, B-marked cells are grade B. but now there are original QR A- cells which have better looking but similar performance as B-marked cells.
It is not able to know a cell is grade A or grade B by testing a single cell. You have to connect 16 cells together to make a pack, then know they are grade A or grade B, cells consistency matters.
How to guarantee to get real grade A cells? Sign a Purchasing Contract with EVE Directly! QR and Excel data report are all unreliable.
You'll need to provide some proof of your claims. This is the first I have heard of EVE having a low spec test report and a high spec test report. You said version 1 and version 2 test report, upload both so we can see.
I know for a little while EVE had a test report that only had 1 OCV and R OHM reading and these were on 18650 vs the ones on Ezeal and Sunfunkits they had 3 readings for OCV 1 / 2 / 3 and R1 / R2 / R3
but I verified with EVE directly and they said both are fine (note the reports of cells with the single value where white vs the normal green/yellow they have).
They never stated one of the test reports meant lower quality than the other.
If a reseller is willing to sand down QR codes and relaser them, you don’t think they could fabercoble up some fake excel “test reports”.
To me that seems like the easiest thing to fake. I’ve never been a fan of people holding up “test reports” as being the gold standard to EV grade vs trash.
To me that seems like the easiest thing to fake. I’ve never been a fan of people holding up “test reports” as being the gold standard to EV grade vs trash.
Yes, to make fake test report is easier than QR.
I think only two kinds of cells: QC passed and QC failed.
Manufacturers only sign a contract with customers for QC passed cells. QC failed cells are sent to several large wholesale distributors.
Grade A- cells test report has no OCV3 Time column.
Even test report format is not same, but it is very easy to make a fake one, so useless.
Alkaline
Solar Wizard
Claims who? You? https://ezealco.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/LF105-Test-Report-2.xlsx
That is a 105 test report, no OCV3 column, in fact many EVE cells do not have a OCV3 column.
LF100 report
You claim its grade A-, EVE themselves say its fine.
I am beginning to think all you want to do is make the narrative, Hey Guys: Our grade B stamped cells are just as good as the "Grade A-" !
That is all the Ali Mafia want to really sell, I saw your review on Andy garage, a ridiculous overpriced priced battery with grade B cells that is $4700 without shipping.
NO ONE SHOULD BE PAYING MORE THAN $60.00/CELL FOR GRADE B STAMPED CELL in the 280/300 class. Regardless of the marketing bs a company may want to spin on it and making up baloney terms like LSEV, LSEV+, HSEV just makes you look bad.
Nice marketing, but still BS.
The only thing I give you is that you aren't re-lasering cells like so many others, but you are really pushing some dubious claims.
That is a 105 test report, no OCV3 column, in fact many EVE cells do not have a OCV3 column.
LF100 report
You claim its grade A-, EVE themselves say its fine.
I am beginning to think all you want to do is make the narrative, Hey Guys: Our grade B stamped cells are just as good as the "Grade A-" !
That is all the Ali Mafia want to really sell, I saw your review on Andy garage, a ridiculous overpriced priced battery with grade B cells that is $4700 without shipping.
NO ONE SHOULD BE PAYING MORE THAN $60.00/CELL FOR GRADE B STAMPED CELL in the 280/300 class. Regardless of the marketing bs a company may want to spin on it and making up baloney terms like LSEV, LSEV+, HSEV just makes you look bad.
Nice marketing, but still BS.
The only thing I give you is that you aren't re-lasering cells like so many others, but you are really pushing some dubious claims.
What I mentioned is LF280K.
If you are in China, and know some distributors, you will know what i am saying is truth.
Where can I order these $60 cells?
