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My "portable ground mount” with adjustable fold-flat tilt angle. Four x 100W panels edge-bolted for strength, wired in series for 48V. The six 8V FLA batteries make useful ballast. Even made an appearance on Bing Maps.

The PVC pipe was strong, inexpensive and easy to fabricate. No reason why it could not be used on a true anchored ground mount.
 

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Hi from sunny Queensland Australia...
Offgrid again (first time back in the 1980's- things sure have changed since then lol)
Currently running a 'temporary' setup with two arrays of three series 250W ex gridties totaling 1.5kw (picked up 18kw worth of panels (72) for under two grand lol) but they are sitting in the shed until I finish building the house to put them on... until then, my little 'temporary' setup runs the shed and caravan...
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Three in series facing north at the right angle for summer/winter collection, 3 facing west at 45 degrees for the afternoon sun... Together they put about 7.5-8kwh a day into the battery bank, sufficient to run the caravan and shed... Strapped down to two full IBC's- they aren't going anywhere with 2 tonnes of water ballast lol
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The fourth panel (right at the top) runs a UV sterilizer and 'stirrer' pump in the rain water tank behind it- they only need a 20w panel- but buying one was going to cost more than I paid for the 250w ones lol- and I got plenty sitting in the shed idle atm...
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Feeds 16x 400Ah (20kwh) of LYP cells- currently 4S4P to run at 12v feeding an old 8kw 12v inverter I've had for nearly a decade now (LYP are LiFeYPO4, similar to LFP, but far more tolerant of temperature extremes (we get upwards of 40C plus for weeks on end in summer here- over 100F) and with the LYP capable of charging from -45C to 85C (-50F to 185F), and LFP needing to start reducing their charge rate above 40C- the LYPs made better sense even though they are slightly more expensive than LFP...
During setup at the shed
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Feeds the battered old 8kw 12v inverter (years of being mounted in the back of the ute has given it a bit of a battered look, but still works as good as the day I bought it back in 2014...)- there's a 48v 12kw hybrid inverter also sitting in the shed for once the house is finished...
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Heavy sucker- took three of us to get it into the cab- used the winch on the tilttray to unload it- it weighs in at 72kg (160lbs)- wasn't going to drop a brand new inverter!!!

I know that 8kw on a 12v system isn't ideal- but stayed at the 12v because all the caravans electrics are 12v (lights, TV, water pumps for the sink and bathroom- the house will be 48v with the battery bank reconfigured as a 16s instead...) and it is only 'temporary' (mind you, it will probably be 'temporary' for another couple of years before I finish the house lol- took me a year to build the shed...
 
Hi from sunny Queensland Australia...
Offgrid again (first time back in the 1980's- things sure have changed since then lol)
Currently running a 'temporary' setup with two arrays of three series 250W ex gridties totaling 1.5kw (picked up 18kw worth of panels (72) for under two grand lol) but they are sitting in the shed until I finish building the house to put them on... until then, my little 'temporary' setup runs the shed and caravan...
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Three in series facing north at the right angle for summer/winter collection, 3 facing west at 45 degrees for the afternoon sun... Together they put about 7.5-8kwh a day into the battery bank, sufficient to run the caravan and shed... Strapped down to two full IBC's- they aren't going anywhere with 2 tonnes of water ballast lol
View attachment 192895
The fourth panel (right at the top) runs a UV sterilizer and 'stirrer' pump in the rain water tank behind it- they only need a 20w panel- but buying one was going to cost more than I paid for the 250w ones lol- and I got plenty sitting in the shed idle atm...
View attachment 192896
Feeds 16x 400Ah (20kwh) of LYP cells- currently 4S4P to run at 12v feeding an old 8kw 12v inverter I've had for nearly a decade now (LYP are LiFeYPO4, similar to LFP, but far more tolerant of temperature extremes (we get upwards of 40C plus for weeks on end in summer here- over 100F) and with the LYP capable of charging from -45C to 85C (-50F to 185F), and LFP needing to start reducing their charge rate above 40C- the LYPs made better sense even though they are slightly more expensive than LFP...
During setup at the shed
View attachment 192897
Feeds the battered old 8kw 12v inverter (years of being mounted in the back of the ute has given it a bit of a battered look, but still works as good as the day I bought it back in 2014...)- there's a 48v 12kw hybrid inverter also sitting in the shed for once the house is finished...
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Heavy sucker- took three of us to get it into the cab- used the winch on the tilttray to unload it- it weighs in at 72kg (160lbs)- wasn't going to drop a brand new inverter!!!

I know that 8kw on a 12v system isn't ideal- but stayed at the 12v because all the caravans electrics are 12v (lights, TV, water pumps for the sink and bathroom- the house will be 48v with the battery bank reconfigured as a 16s instead...) and it is only 'temporary' (mind you, it will probably be 'temporary' for another couple of years before I finish the house lol- took me a year to build the shed...
Welcome to the forum.
It looks like you're going to have quite the setup, nice.
Did you add a BMS to your battery after taking the photo? I didn't see any in your picture.
 
Hi from sunny Queensland Australia...
Offgrid again (first time back in the 1980's- things sure have changed since then lol)
Currently running a 'temporary' setup with two arrays of three series 250W ex gridties totaling 1.5kw (picked up 18kw worth of panels (72) for under two grand lol) but they are sitting in the shed until I finish building the house to put them on... until then, my little 'temporary' setup runs the shed and caravan...
View attachment 192894
Three in series facing north at the right angle for summer/winter collection, 3 facing west at 45 degrees for the afternoon sun... Together they put about 7.5-8kwh a day into the battery bank, sufficient to run the caravan and shed... Strapped down to two full IBC's- they aren't going anywhere with 2 tonnes of water ballast lol
View attachment 192895
The fourth panel (right at the top) runs a UV sterilizer and 'stirrer' pump in the rain water tank behind it- they only need a 20w panel- but buying one was going to cost more than I paid for the 250w ones lol- and I got plenty sitting in the shed idle atm...
View attachment 192896
Feeds 16x 400Ah (20kwh) of LYP cells- currently 4S4P to run at 12v feeding an old 8kw 12v inverter I've had for nearly a decade now (LYP are LiFeYPO4, similar to LFP, but far more tolerant of temperature extremes (we get upwards of 40C plus for weeks on end in summer here- over 100F) and with the LYP capable of charging from -45C to 85C (-50F to 185F), and LFP needing to start reducing their charge rate above 40C- the LYPs made better sense even though they are slightly more expensive than LFP...
During setup at the shed
View attachment 192897
Feeds the battered old 8kw 12v inverter (years of being mounted in the back of the ute has given it a bit of a battered look, but still works as good as the day I bought it back in 2014...)- there's a 48v 12kw hybrid inverter also sitting in the shed for once the house is finished...
View attachment 192898
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Heavy sucker- took three of us to get it into the cab- used the winch on the tilttray to unload it- it weighs in at 72kg (160lbs)- wasn't going to drop a brand new inverter!!!

I know that 8kw on a 12v system isn't ideal- but stayed at the 12v because all the caravans electrics are 12v (lights, TV, water pumps for the sink and bathroom- the house will be 48v with the battery bank reconfigured as a 16s instead...) and it is only 'temporary' (mind you, it will probably be 'temporary' for another couple of years before I finish the house lol- took me a year to build the shed...
May I ask how much each of the 400Ah Winston cells cost you?
 
Welcome to the forum.
It looks like you're going to have quite the setup, nice.
Did you add a BMS to your battery after taking the photo? I didn't see any in your picture.
That was during the setup- but still no BMS, no... (I do a check once a month to check they're tracking, (I have the equipment to do a manual balancing if required- been installing offgrid since the 1980's and got my grid tie installers licence back in 2004) but to date- they are still tracking accurately despite over two years of use)

I simply keep out of the 'end zones' ie limit it to 14v max and 12v minimum and that minimises the need for a BMS (I actually have one but its a 16S one for the final 48v system, and until I get the house finished, well its sitting in its box...
LYP is actually quite forgiving if kept out of those 'danger zones' where the BMS kicks into life.
It does lose me a bit of the theoretical capacity, but 20kwh of storage to run a caravan is really overboard (that bank was specced to run my house with AC and a workshop, and it's totally overboard for the van- even though I do all my cooking on electric (out in the shed- cooking in the van is a pain as it is LPG and that costs $$$- about $30 a bottle for the 4kg bottle and that lasts about 6 weeks using the gas stove lol) and I leave the laptop running 24/7, I rarely drop under 12.9v overnight down from 13.1v off charge (even if I leave the vans fans running in summer 24/7, or in winter use the electric blanket overnight...)
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I even run the vans AC on really hot days- but that little temporary array struggles with that- I can run it for about 5 hours in the afternoon, but its basically a choice of charge the battery bank or run the AC- not both...

I'd never run a LFP/LYP without BMS for a client, but like I said, I got the gear to do a manual balance if required...
(its all a bit 'do as I say, not as I do' LOL)
 
May I ask how much each of the 400Ah Winston cells cost you?
I paid $1.95 per AH per cell from the supplier here in Qld- so $780 each including GST (the total bank would have cost me $12480 Au but as I could buy them GST free (as a business) it only cost me $11232 Au delivered to the door)
 
I paid $1.95 per AH per cell from the supplier here in Qld- so $780 each including GST (the total bank would have cost me $12480 Au but as I could buy them GST free (as a business) it only cost me $11232 Au delivered to the door)
Thanks. How much would an eve 280 or 304 cost in comparison?
 
The Eve 280Ah LF280K is $375 per cell here (although I wouldn't use them here as they would be in reduced charging mode for much of the summer due to the heat- thats why I went the LYP instead of the LFP)
By the time its hitting over 40C, and the battery pack is 5C higher than that when charging, you are up to over 45C, and that's well into throttling range for a LFP...
(I'm glad I'm not in Western Oz atm- they were over 50C/125.6F a couple of weeks ago!!!
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Even for me- thats .....hot...
 
I'll try this again. 6 pillars of 8x8x16 block on 8' centers. Plan is to go 4 more up, 4 studs on every third block (M8). 4x4's on the top, then maybe 11 trusses 10x5x~13. Run 1x2 along the bottom want to put a 5x2 array 72x45" panels, strap from underneath, just have a panel roof. Torn on that or dropping some OSB and roll-out shingle, and some other mounting system. Just for fun, winds get up in the 100's here so everything will be tied down on studs. Probably PO the neighbor. (note the shadowing, it's around 1500 when the picture was taken.

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The Eve 280Ah LF280K is $375 per cell here (although I wouldn't use them here as they would be in reduced charging mode for much of the summer due to the heat- thats why I went the LYP instead of the LFP)
By the time its hitting over 40C, and the battery pack is 5C higher than that when charging, you are up to over 45C, and that's well into throttling range for a LFP...
(I'm glad I'm not in Western Oz atm- they were over 50C/125.6F a couple of weeks ago!!!
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Even for me- thats .....hot...
That's crazy. In the US we can get grade A for like $100/cell now plus $10-15/cell shipping.
 
I just bought some A grade REPT 280ah for $A225. each from LiFPo 4 Australia. (Hervey Bay, Qld ) Was only going to buy 16 but at that price I bought 32. Think he may be low on stock but worth a call if your interested
Where in Qld are you Bop? I'm near Childers
 
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