Goboatingnow
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Rather like Twitter according to muskThey are! They are excellent at being wasteful and intrusive.
Rather like Twitter according to muskThey are! They are excellent at being wasteful and intrusive.
I’m sure the peoples in Iraq , Afghanistan and occupied Ukraine made have an alternative perspectiveThere is no government like no government
And good at governing. Society needs governingThey are! They are excellent at being wasteful and intrusive.
Please do.I’d hate to have to move this thread to the chit chat forum, but all the political rhetoric is pushing it that way…
Keep the posts on topic, or I guess it’ll have to be moved…
From the SF EXAMINERPG&E deserves blame for lots of things but in this case it's really not their fault. The advanced inverter requirements (CA Rule 21) were set by CPUC. So, all CA PoCo's (PG&E, SCE, SDG&E, etc.) are obligated to follow the rule.
I don't know the specifics of Tesla's arrangement with Powerwall users. I do know that given enough capacity of a system and some load management, there can be enough power to cover loads and do export for a short period of time. Sometimes a short two or three hour cut in demand or increase of power is all that might be needed to stabilize the grid during that period. The pricing mechanisms are complex and as a result confusing because they include elements of standby payments to power generators, just for being able to dispatch power quickly as demand ramps up.What confuses me about VPPs / utilities dispatching power on-demand is how it works with utility’s own TOU rates.
By definition the utility needs the power when it is most expensive and that’s also when the customer needs the power to have low electric bills.
The concept of high TOU rates during peak times was to discourage consumptiin during peak times and compensate power generators for bringing on power during those times. At least that was the theory in California and for a while Peaker Plants were doing that. Now grid scale battery plants have replaced peakers because they can operate with less cost and less pollution. At least that was the scenario in September when brownouts were avoided in California.It seems inevitable that VPP and TOU rates will conflict with each other.
Ever been to any of those countries in person?I’m sure the peoples in Iraq , Afghanistan and occupied Ukraine made have an alternative perspective
Seemingly the US is clearly unable to create efficient governments basecvov the attitude here anyway. Elsewhere people largely support their governments and like them to run things.
Anyway , private industry hasn’t showered itself in glory either.
Anyway it’s irelevant , people don’t want Govs to go away and no evidence they are.
Yes some of them. Aghanistan in the late 70s was amazing , Iraq was equally a fan imaging place to visit before the shah was toppled ( I learned to play a lot of backgammon )Ever been to any of those countries in person?
They've...changed since then.Yes some of them. Aghanistan in the late 70s was amazing , Iraq was equally a fan imaging place to visit before the shah was toppled ( I learned to play a lot of backgammon )
Sure but the point is yes I was there and it answers the nonsense comment about good government is no government. Because one can quickly see what happened when these countries lost their governments and descended into chaos.They've...changed since then.
Define good ...Sure but the point is yes I was there and it answers the nonsense comment about good government is no government. Because one can quickly see what happened when these countries lost their governments and descended into chaos.
Societies need good reliable governments to function properly and to ensure fairness etc. it’s nonsense to spout “ bumper sticker” politics
That’s all I was saying
The vast majority of people being contented to a point , so that society sleeps peacefully at night. I believe fundemebt rights like income irrelevant access to housing food medical and education are then respected , this requires tax collection , order maintenance etc or human greed wlll out and the weak are terrorised by the greedy, no point having “ resources “if you constantly have to defend them.Define good ...
I am a minority. Why does your version of 'good government' not represent me? I find your brand of 'good government', that only represents the vast majority, unfair and discriminatory.The vast majority of people being contented to a point , so that society sleeps peacefully at night. I believe fundemebt rights like income irrelevant access to housing food medical and education are then respected , this requires tax collection , order maintenance etc or human greed wlll out and the weak are terrorised by the greedy, no point having “ resources “if you constantly have to defend them.
Sure humans are fallible nothing will be perfect but I’d prefer imperfect Gov to Chaos . Most people spouting “ bumper “ sticker politics about no Gov will be the first to scream for help when they get into trouble. !!
Well you can’t please everyone no Gov really tries that. You have to pick helping the most disadvantaged , those that have their own resources don’t need too much help. But you can’t leave the “I am a minority. Why does your version of 'good government' not represent me? I find your brand of 'good government', that only represents the vast majority, unfair and discriminatory.